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https://www.usdebtclock.org/

$9B saved and counting up. Here we go.

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Debt to gdp 122.  Yikes.  And that's just federal.

Trump really needs to address that.  Obviously he's not going to fix it entirely in one term but he's got to get the US solidly on the right track one way or another. That is just way the hell too high. 

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5 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Debt to gdp 122.  Yikes.  And that's just federal.

Trump really needs to address that.  Obviously he's not going to fix it entirely in one term but he's got to get the US solidly on the right track one way or another. That is just way the hell too high. 

Yeah, we know.

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1 minute ago, gatomontes99 said:

Yeah, we know.

Well you are an anchor currency so it isn't going to destroy you the way it would somebody like us. Sadly our own debt to GDP has rocketed up thanks to our liberal government, and we will have to address that too. But it's not quite that bad.

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1 minute ago, Hodad said:

Trump added to the debt at a record pace last time. 

I'm sure he's the guy you undo his own damage. 🙄

Do you know who added more?

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9 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

Do you know who added more?

Nobody. 

At least not on a year-to-year basis. Trump lives up to his boast of being the " King of debt."

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14 minutes ago, Hodad said:

Nobody. 

At least not on a year-to-year basis. Trump lives up to his boast of being the " King of debt."

Trump raised the bedt $7T with COVID spending. Biden raised the debt $9T w/o COVID spending.

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1 hour ago, Hodad said:

Trump added to the debt at a record pace last time. 

I'm sure he's the guy you undo his own damage. 🙄

It's not a record anymore. Biden beat him by a fair bit

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23 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

Trump raised the bedt $7T with COVID spending. Biden raised the debt $9T w/o COVID spending.

A. That's an obvious falsehood. Biden's COVID relief spending was nearly as much as Trump's. 

B. The numbers are wrong.

Fox business

 

Trump administration (1/20/17–1/20/21)

  • Net borrowing: $8.4 trillion
  • Net borrowing excluding COVID measures: $4.8 trillion
  • Partisan borrowing: $1.9 trillion
  • Bipartisan borrowing: $6.5 trillion

 

Biden administration (1/20/21–6/21/24)

  • Net borrowing: $4.3 trillion
  • Borrowing excluding American Rescue Plan: $2.2 trillion
  • Partisan borrowing: $3 trillion
  • Bipartisan borrowing: $1.3 trillion

 

^^the caveat is that this runs through June, but I don't believe Biden signed any major spending in the last few months.

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3 hours ago, Hodad said:

Nobody. 

At least not on a year-to-year basis. Trump lives up to his boast of being the " King of debt."

Nope. Biden is the king sorry to say. 

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29 minutes ago, Hodad said:

A. That's an obvious falsehood. Biden's COVID relief spending was nearly as much as Trump's. 

B. The numbers are wrong.

Fox business

 

Trump administration (1/20/17–1/20/21)

  • Net borrowing: $8.4 trillion
  • Net borrowing excluding COVID measures: $4.8 trillion
  • Partisan borrowing: $1.9 trillion
  • Bipartisan borrowing: $6.5 trillion

 

Biden administration (1/20/21–6/21/24)

  • Net borrowing: $4.3 trillion
  • Borrowing excluding American Rescue Plan: $2.2 trillion
  • Partisan borrowing: $3 trillion
  • Bipartisan borrowing: $1.3 trillion

 

^^the caveat is that this runs through June, but I don't believe Biden signed any major spending in the last few months.

Here's the actual deficit numbers from the treasury itself. 

National Deficit | U.S. Treasury Fiscal Data

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Biden borrowed VASTLY MORE MONEY than trump. 

So did obama in his first term outside of covid. 


Sorry but you're a liar. 

 

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1 hour ago, Hodad said:

A. That's an obvious falsehood. Biden's COVID relief spending was nearly as much as Trump's. 

B. The numbers are wrong.

Fox business

 

Trump administration (1/20/17–1/20/21)

  • Net borrowing: $8.4 trillion
  • Net borrowing excluding COVID measures: $4.8 trillion
  • Partisan borrowing: $1.9 trillion
  • Bipartisan borrowing: $6.5 trillion

 

Biden administration (1/20/21–6/21/24)

  • Net borrowing: $4.3 trillion
  • Borrowing excluding American Rescue Plan: $2.2 trillion
  • Partisan borrowing: $3 trillion
  • Bipartisan borrowing: $1.3 trillion

 

^^the caveat is that this runs through June, but I don't believe Biden signed any major spending in the last few months.

@CdnFox is allergic to facts. 

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25 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

@CdnFox is allergic to facts. 

So you're saying the US treasury is lying and prefer fox news?

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Posted
8 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

That clock is probably broken, considering everything Elon touches turns to garbage.

Well that's certainly a stupid thing to say.

Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.

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