Treason?

[CrakHoBarbie]

Just now, User said:

You are missing a lot of details... but then again, you likely know that, because this is a very dishonest framing of what occurred and how anything could have lawfully played out in the end. 

 

Oh?

I've researched the topic extensively. 

Would you like to explain your take on the matter?

Or, would you prefer to just make your random claim without proof?

I can blanket you with citations that prove I'm correct.

Your denial is meaningless. 

[User]

1 minute ago, CrakHoBarbie said:

Theres nothing "loose" about it.

Donald hatched and implemented a plan to install fake electors in multiple states. 

He then attempted to coerce his vice president to certify those fraudulent electors over the legitimate electors. 

Donald admits he did it.

His lawyer told the court it was an "official act ".

Donald believes treasonous is an official act.

 

If the legality of this were so obvious, it would not have taken the Biden DOJ 2-3 years to figure it out. 

The legality of this was not quite what you are claiming here and not so obviously illegal, never mind treason. 

 

6 minutes ago, CrakHoBarbie said:

Oh?

I've researched the topic extensively. 

Would you like to explain your take on the matter?

Or, would you prefer to just make your random claim without proof?

I can blanket you with citations that prove I'm correct.

Your denial is meaningless. 

LOL, sure you have researched this extensively. Sure. 

 

 

[Legato]

12 minutes ago, CrakHoBarbie said:

You comprehension skills are sorely lacking.

People like you are the reason donald loves the poorly educated. 

Gullable buffoons like you are a dime  dozen.

and what does that have to do with consummate?

welcome to the dime club, we have dozens of balloons and remedies for curing butthurt.

 

[gatomontes99]

12 minutes ago, Legato said:

and what does that have to do with consummate?

welcome to the dime club, we have dozens of balloons and remedies for curing butthurt.

 

I'm sure HE has lube for that.

[CrakHoBarbie]

10 minutes ago, Legato said:

and what does that have to do with consummate?

 

When i called you a consummate MAGA,  it means that you are someone who is extremely skilled, accomplished, and perfect in their field.

Thus, you are the perfect MAGA because you excel at ignorance and tribalism.

Which part confuses you?

[CrakHoBarbie]

22 minutes ago, User said:

If the legality of this were so obvious, it would not have taken the Biden DOJ 2-3 years to figure it out. 

The legality of this was not quite what you are claiming here and not so obviously illegal, never mind treason. 

 

LOL, sure you have researched this extensively. Sure. 

 

 

Again, explain "how" I'm mistaken.

You cannot.

You support a dirty traitor. 

 

[CrakHoBarbie]

4 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

I'm sure HE has lube for that.

I'm sure your expertise in anal lube has no equal.

 

[User]

Just now, CrakHoBarbie said:

Again, explain "how" I'm mistaken.

You cannot.

You support a dirty traitor. 

 

The answer lies with:

-Why are the so-called "fake" electors in New Mexico and Pennsylvania going to get off without even being charged?

-Why is it 4 years later and nothing has happened to the others as their cases languish and the Democrat AG's have to try to figure out what laws they can scheme up to charge them with over the past 4 years?

The simple reality is that the plan was that these electors would serve ONLY if the legal process played out in Trumps favor to show they were needed, which is exactly the language the goofballs in New Mexico and Pennsylvania were savvy enough to include on their documents. 

Had the others done the same, they would be home free too. 

 

[CrakHoBarbie]

Just now, User said:

The answer lies with:

-Why are the so-called "fake" electors in New Mexico and Pennsylvania going to get off without even being charged?

-Why is it 4 years later and nothing has happened to the others as their cases languish and the Democrat AG's have to try to figure out what laws they can scheme up to charge them with over the past 4 years?

The simple reality is that the plan was that these electors would serve ONLY if the legal process played out in Trumps favor to show they were needed, which is exactly the language the goofballs in New Mexico and Pennsylvania were savvy enough to include on their documents. 

Had the others done the same, they would be home free too. 

 

So a sitting president attempting to disenfranchise millions of voters over a supposition is ok with you?

You are completely ignorant of how donny whipped you are.

Maybe you'll come to terms with reality after donald causes prices to escalate again.

Probably not.

You're too donny whipped.

[User]

2 minutes ago, CrakHoBarbie said:

So a sitting president attempting to disenfranchise millions of voters over a supposition is ok with you?

You are completely ignorant of how donny whipped you are.

Maybe you'll come to terms with reality after donald causes prices to escalate again.

Probably not.

You're too donny whipped.

If the merits of the election fraud played out as believed in the courts and legal process, then that is not disenfranchisement, that is exposing disenfranchisement. 

See, this is what happens when someone actually gives you facts; you resort to petty name-calling. 

Trump was no more trying to disenfranchise people than Al Gore was. I forget, have we had a discussion on Al Gore? Do you think he won the 2000 election and do you support what he did?

[Nationalist]

4 minutes ago, CrakHoBarbie said:

So a sitting president attempting to disenfranchise millions of voters over a supposition is ok with you?

You are completely ignorant of how donny whipped you are.

Maybe you'll come to terms with reality after donald causes prices to escalate again.

Probably not.

You're too donny whipped.

And if prices begin to fall...will you publicly proclaim how wrong you are?

[User]

Also @CrakHoBarbie, to the point of this thread, we are talking about Milley. 

I noticed you ignored my comments on what he did. 

[CrakHoBarbie]

2 minutes ago, User said:

Also @CrakHoBarbie, to the point of this thread, we are talking about Milley. 

I noticed you ignored my comments on what he did. 

When some ignorant fool tries to change the subject because they can't win an argument,  i ignore that fools comment.

Comprende amigo?

[User]

Just now, CrakHoBarbie said:

When some ignorant fool tries to change the subject because they can't win an argument,  i ignore that fools comment.

Comprende amigo?

Change the subject? That is what this thread was about. LOL

 

[CrakHoBarbie]

14 minutes ago, User said:

If the merits of the election fraud played out as believed in the courts and legal process, then that is not disenfranchisement, that is exposing disenfranchisement. 

See, this is what happens when someone actually gives you facts; you resort to petty name-calling. 

Trump was no more trying to disenfranchise people than Al Gore was. I forget, have we had a discussion on Al Gore? Do you think he won the 2000 election and do you support what he did?

If?

Donald attempted to get his vice president to refuse to certify the legitimate electors. 

When his vice president refused, donalds overtly violent sycophants swarmed the capital.

Donalds a dirty traitor,  and you support him.

Why can't you admit what he is, and what you are?

 

5 minutes ago, User said:

Change the subject? That is what this thread was about. LOL

 

You're right.

I didn't read the thread from the beginning. 

When I saw the title "treason", I naturally assumed the thread was about donald.

My bad.

You have my apologies. 

Edited December 31, 2024 by CrakHoBarbie

[User]

Just now, CrakHoBarbie said:

If?

Donald attempted to get his vice president to refuse to certify the legitimate electors. 

When his vice president refused, donalds overtly violent sycophants swarmed the capital.

Donalds a dirty traitor,  and you support him.

Why can't you admit what he is, and what you are?

 

Yes, if. 

What happens if the VP doesn't certify the electors? What then? You folks on the left never can seem to muster up anything else. You act like if that happens somehow Trump is dictator for life. 

Trump did not call for or coordinate any violent mob activity. 

Trump is not a traitor. He is the next President. Get used to that for the next 4 years. 

 

[CrakHoBarbie]

25 minutes ago, User said:

Yes, if. 

What happens if the VP doesn't certify the electors? What then? You folks on the left never can seem to muster up anything else. You act like if that happens somehow Trump is dictator for life. 

Trump did not call for or coordinate any violent mob activity. 

Trump is not a traitor. He is the next President. Get used to that for the next 4 years. 

 

I understand. 

You can't accept the fact that donald tried to disenfranchise millions of voters on a supposition.

Yet, it happened. 

That's what his next court case was all about.

It is futile to argue the point with one of donalds suck ups.

Please, do carry on with your mindless fealty to your billionaire boys club.

I hope all of those who voted for the billionaire boys club get everything they deserve. 

[CdnFox]

2 minutes ago, CrakHoBarbie said:

I understand. 

You can't accept the fact that donald tried to disenfranchise millions of voters on a supposition.

Why would he accept a lie?

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Yet, it happened. 

yet you continue to lie about it happening.

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That's what his next court case was all about.

Which got shot down and never happened. The fact the dems were excited to throw more fake charges at him doesn't make them true. 

 

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It is futile to argue the point with one of donalds suck ups.

Or anyone sane.

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Please, do carry on with your mindless fealty to your billionaire boys club.

Please, do carry on being a yes-man for the voices in your head. 

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I hope all of those who voted for the billionaire boys club get everything they deserve. 

Probably not everything. People like you will probably still be out of jail   

[gatomontes99]

1 hour ago, User said:

Change the subject? That is what this thread was about. LOL

 

HE was talking about HIMself.

[gatomontes99]

57 minutes ago, User said:

Yes, if. 

What happens if the VP doesn't certify the electors? What then? You folks on the left never can seem to muster up anything else. You act like if that happens somehow Trump is dictator for life. 

Trump did not call for or coordinate any violent mob activity. 

Trump is not a traitor. He is the next President. Get used to that for the next 4 years. 

 

That's the rub. What then? Then there are legal battles....LEGAL BATTLES... over what votes count and don't count. Just like Gore/Bush or Kennedy/Nixon.

It was not unprecedented to challenge election results. It wasn't unprecedented to have alternate electors. It isnt normal. But it isnt illegal to make LEGAL CHALLENGES. Some might think it is low or scummy or immoral or antidemocratic or whatever. But it isn't illegal.

What it is is a focal point of anger, for those with TDS, to justify their irrational hatred of everyone and everything associated with DJT.

[CrakHoBarbie]

23 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

 

It was not unprecedented to challenge election results.

This is true.

What is unprecedented is a sitting president installing slates of fraudulent electors in multiple states over a supposition. 

Donald never presented evidence of election fraud vast enough to make a difference,  nor viable enough to be substantiated in a court of law. 

Donald attempted to stay in power through fraudulent means.

Therefore,  donald is a dirty traitor. 

These are facts you cannot reasonably deny.

[User]

17 minutes ago, CrakHoBarbie said:

This is true.

What is unprecedented is a sitting president installing slates of fraudulent electors in multiple states over a supposition. 

Trump doesn't have the power to install fraudulent electors nor did he. 

Nothing happened. What is supposition is your arguing "if" VP rejected to certify the vote... and you can't explain then what. 

20 minutes ago, CrakHoBarbie said:

Donald never presented evidence of election fraud vast enough to make a difference,  nor viable enough to be substantiated in a court of law. 

Neither did Al Gore... I guess he is guilty of trying to! Traitor! Treason!

21 minutes ago, CrakHoBarbie said:

Donald attempted to stay in power through fraudulent means.

No, he didn't.

21 minutes ago, CrakHoBarbie said:

Therefore,  donald is a dirty traitor. 

These are facts you cannot reasonably deny.

Yes, I can. 

1 hour ago, CrakHoBarbie said:

I understand. 

You can't accept the fact that donald tried to disenfranchise millions of voters on a supposition.

Yet, it happened. 

That's what his next court case was all about.

It is futile to argue the point with one of donalds suck ups.

Please, do carry on with your mindless fealty to your billionaire boys club.

I hope all of those who voted for the billionaire boys club get everything they deserve. 

Clearly, you don't understand. 

You are here mindlessly repeating the billionaire talking point when Harris had more $$$ and more billionaires backing her. ROFL

 

[CrakHoBarbie]

19 minutes ago, User said:

Trump doesn't have the power to install fraudulent electors nor did he. 

 

As you nuzzle up with donalds scrotum and insist he's innocent, the evidence against him is overwhelming. 

I guess you feel compelled to play pretend in support of your demigod.

Ignorance is your right. 

Have at it.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwj0oYGMqtOKAxW_lu4BHelAEnQQFnoECBcQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fapnews.com%2Farticle%2Fdonald-trump-fake-electors-wisconsin-fff7cd21e3083f300874eccd69141f8d&usg=AOvVaw3JJa3hF4FguvGyP4W1w5d0&opi=89978449

 

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwj0oYGMqtOKAxW_lu4BHelAEnQQFnoECBoQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fapnews.com%2Farticle%2Fdonald-trump-jan-6-investigation-fake-electors-608932d4771f6e2e3c5efb3fdcd8fcce&usg=AOvVaw01BjWonpcLeDaWtA-gaMEd&opi=89978449

 

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwj0oYGMqtOKAxW_lu4BHelAEnQQFnoECBkQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.justsecurity.org%2F81939%2Ftimeline-false-electors%2F&usg=AOvVaw1ggdXTa1C77kVrqhYIcIg6&opi=89978449

 

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwj0oYGMqtOKAxW_lu4BHelAEnQQFnoECBQQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatesunited.org%2Fresources%2Fmichigan-fake-electors%2F&usg=AOvVaw0jEKtnoua7t1hZGw0KN683&opi=89978449

 

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjztqKuq9OKAxVnIEQIHfTbDrw4ChAWegQIERAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2F2022%2F07%2F27%2Fus%2Fpolitics%2Ffake-electors-explained-trump-jan-6.html&usg=AOvVaw1csmY-Vbm1NuUy5jRTXRnw&opi=89978449

 

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiU1sXOq9OKAxXMJEQIHeJ7JEAQFnoECBIQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fthehill.com%2Fregulation%2Fcourt-battles%2F4751339-donald-trump-attorney-fake-electors-scheme-official-act-immunity-decision%2F&usg=AOvVaw3SGq8cjzQIDF9C7_Y0LnrY&opi=89978449

[User]

1 hour ago, CrakHoBarbie said:

As you nuzzle up with donalds scrotum and insist he's innocent, the evidence against him is overwhelming. 

I guess you feel compelled to play pretend in support of your demigod.

Ignorance is your right. 

Have at it.

Next time, if you think a link says something, feel free to articulate it. This is your bad argument to prove. 

This was from your first link, which supports what I have been saying:

"The Wisconsin GOP electors have long said that they were partaking in the plan in case a court later ruled that Trump had won the state. One of the fake electors, former Wisconsin state Republican Chairman Andrew Hitt, repeated that position in a statement Wednesday."

[CrakHoBarbie]

22 minutes ago, User said:

Next time, if you think a link says something, feel free to articulate it. This is your bad argument to prove. 

This was from your first link, which supports what I have been saying:

"The Wisconsin GOP electors have long said that they were partaking in the plan in case a court later ruled that Trump had won the state. One of the fake electors, former Wisconsin state Republican Chairman Andrew Hitt, repeated that position in a statement Wednesday."

It's good they added that. Kept them from being indicted. The others who didn't, got indicted (because it was illegal).

Doesn't negate the fact that donald attempted to disenfranchise millions of voters on a supposition. 

Whine, Huff and puff, let donald lead you around with a leash, that is your right.

I hope you get everything you deserve.