Aristides Posted December 27, 2024 Report Posted December 27, 2024 On 12/23/2024 at 12:21 PM, User said: The hypocritical irony. So, they are cool with getting people out of the country. NAZiS caused the deaths of about 40 million Europeans including almost 8 million Germans and left Germany a bombed out wasteland. If that happened to your country, you would want them out too. Quote
User Posted December 27, 2024 Report Posted December 27, 2024 2 hours ago, Aristides said: NAZiS caused the deaths of about 40 million Europeans including almost 8 million Germans and left Germany a bombed out wasteland. If that happened to your country, you would want them out too. You are conflating actual historical NAZI's to simply labeling and denigrating anyone on the right who espoused a political view you don't like as one. Here is the classic underlying issue with leftists like you controlling speech. You will label anyone or anything you don't like as the bad thing that must be outlawed and removed. Thus... the hypocritical irony. Quote
NAME REMOVED Posted December 27, 2024 Report Posted December 27, 2024 On 12/23/2024 at 1:21 PM, User said: The hypocritical irony. How is it hypocritical? Quote
User Posted December 27, 2024 Report Posted December 27, 2024 (edited) 7 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said: How is it hypocritical? Being against removing people and then saying to remove people. Edited December 27, 2024 by User Quote
Aristides Posted December 27, 2024 Report Posted December 27, 2024 2 hours ago, User said: You are conflating actual historical NAZI's to simply labeling and denigrating anyone on the right who espoused a political view you don't like as one. Here is the classic underlying issue with leftists like you controlling speech. You will label anyone or anything you don't like as the bad thing that must be outlawed and removed. Thus... the hypocritical irony. Germans know a NAZI when they see one. 1 Quote
User Posted December 27, 2024 Report Posted December 27, 2024 3 minutes ago, Aristides said: Germans know a NAZI when they see one. Uh, huh. So... back to my statement you ignored: Here is the classic underlying issue with leftists like you controlling speech. You will label anyone or anything you don't like as the bad thing that must be outlawed and removed. Thus... the hypocritical irony. Quote
Aristides Posted December 27, 2024 Report Posted December 27, 2024 (edited) 18 minutes ago, User said: Uh, huh. So... back to my statement you ignored: Here is the classic underlying issue with leftists like you controlling speech. You will label anyone or anything you don't like as the bad thing that must be outlawed and removed. Thus... the hypocritical irony. Who's controlling speech? This guy mouthed off and the crowd told him to get stuffed. Both exercising their free speech. You must be a Kaepernick supporter. Right? Edited December 27, 2024 by Aristides Quote
User Posted December 27, 2024 Report Posted December 27, 2024 54 minutes ago, Aristides said: Who's controlling speech? This guy mouthed off and the crowd told him to get stuffed. Both exercising their free speech. You must be a Kaepernick supporter. Right? Well, you are advocating for that right here. Someone said something you didn't like, so they must be a Nazi and thus they must be shipped out of the country. That is not only controlling speech; it is outright leftist authoritarianism destroying someone's livelihood. Quote
Aristides Posted December 27, 2024 Report Posted December 27, 2024 On 12/23/2024 at 12:21 PM, User said: The hypocritical irony. So, they are cool with getting people out of the country. They just said NAZI's out. Out of what? No one said out of the country, you just made that up. People should be able to shout anything they want in a public place and no one is entitled to respond? That's your idea of free speech? He shouted Germany for the Germans. So who was it that wanted people out of the country? 1 Quote
User Posted December 27, 2024 Report Posted December 27, 2024 Just now, Aristides said: They just said NAZI's out. Out of what? No one said out of the country, you just made that up. People should be able to shout anything they want in a public place and no one is entitled to respond? That's your idea of free speech? He shouted Germany for the Germans. So who was it that wanted people out of the country? It appears you just want to ask yourself a bunch of loaded rhetorical questions. Might as well go type to yourself in notepad. Good luck with that. Quote
Aristides Posted December 27, 2024 Report Posted December 27, 2024 3 minutes ago, User said: It appears you just want to ask yourself a bunch of loaded rhetorical questions. Might as well go type to yourself in notepad. Good luck with that. Well you can't seem to answer them. Quote
User Posted December 27, 2024 Report Posted December 27, 2024 11 minutes ago, Aristides said: Well you can't seem to answer them. You can't seem to remember your own comments. 1 Quote
Legato Posted December 28, 2024 Report Posted December 28, 2024 23 hours ago, User said: You can't seem to remember your own comments. He can't. I had that word run around, with him quoting his own words as mine. 1 Quote
eyeball Posted December 29, 2024 Report Posted December 29, 2024 (edited) On 12/27/2024 at 9:47 AM, User said: You are conflating actual historical NAZI's to simply labeling and denigrating anyone on the right who espoused a political view you don't like as one. You're saying this is what an entire stadium full of people just did as well. On 12/27/2024 at 9:47 AM, User said: Here is the classic underlying issue with leftists like you controlling speech Are you seriously under the impression he was the only right winger in the crowd? It seems likelier to me he was just the biggest arsehole and the crowd, probably a representative one with more or less equal numbers of progressives and conservatives, collectively showed him the door. And here is the classic underlying thing with gaslit North American chuds who are ridiculously preoccupied with forever labelling and denigrating the left, you can't think straight about anything. Edited December 29, 2024 by eyeball Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
User Posted December 29, 2024 Report Posted December 29, 2024 25 minutes ago, eyeball said: You're saying this is what an entire stadium full of people just did as well. No, I didn't. Quote
eyeball Posted December 29, 2024 Report Posted December 29, 2024 2 minutes ago, User said: No, I didn't. So just wtf do you think they were doing? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
User Posted December 29, 2024 Report Posted December 29, 2024 2 minutes ago, eyeball said: So just wtf do you think they were doing? Quote the comment you take issue with. Quote
Aristides Posted December 29, 2024 Report Posted December 29, 2024 18 hours ago, Legato said: He can't. I had that word run around, with him quoting his own words as mine. You guys still can't (won't) answer the questions I posed. Quote
eyeball Posted December 29, 2024 Report Posted December 29, 2024 9 hours ago, User said: Quote the comment you take issue with. On 12/27/2024 at 9:47 AM, User said: You are conflating actual historical NAZI's to simply labeling and denigrating anyone on the right who espoused a political view you don't like as one. Why did the crowd immediately start chanting Nazis out? You seem to be suggesting they had a different reason than the one you've attributed to Aristide. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
User Posted December 29, 2024 Report Posted December 29, 2024 28 minutes ago, eyeball said: Why did the crowd immediately start chanting Nazis out? You seem to be suggesting they had a different reason than the one you've attributed to Aristide. Quote the comment you are talking about of mine. 49 minutes ago, Aristides said: You guys still can't (won't) answer the questions I posed. And you still can't remember what you have said here. Quote
eyeball Posted December 29, 2024 Report Posted December 29, 2024 1 hour ago, User said: Quote the comment you are talking about of mine. I'm taking about the direction you're going with this. Why did the crowd immediately start chanting Nazis out? Better yet, since you people seem to think the left is getting it's comeuppance everywhere in the face of rising conservatism, why didn't the crowd cheer when they heard that lone brave voice crying out Germany is for Germans? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
User Posted December 29, 2024 Report Posted December 29, 2024 1 minute ago, eyeball said: I'm taking about the direction you're going with this. Why did the crowd immediately start chanting Nazis out? Better yet, since you people seem to think the left is getting it's comeuppance everywhere in the face of rising conservatism, why didn't the crowd cheer when they heard that lone brave voice crying out Germany is for Germans? What comment of mine are you talking about regarding the direction you think I am going with this? What comment of mine are you talking about regarding this comeuppance you want me to answer for? Quote
eyeball Posted December 29, 2024 Report Posted December 29, 2024 8 minutes ago, User said: What comment of mine are you talking about regarding the direction you think I am going with this? Your comments in this thread make it quite clear you think when someone calls you a Nazi the only purpose for doing so is to label and denigrate the right. Am I wrong? On 12/27/2024 at 9:47 AM, User said: You are conflating actual historical NAZI's to simply labeling and denigrating anyone on the right who espoused a political view you don't like as one. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
User Posted December 29, 2024 Report Posted December 29, 2024 5 minutes ago, eyeball said: Am I wrong? Yes. Quote
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