CdnFox Posted February 9 Report Posted February 9 4 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said: I hope we can all agree that such discussions of sexuality should be age-appropriate. I don’t see any damage resulting from my nephews interacting with gay and trans-identifying kids at school in recent years or from the discussions about them by teachers. In my day, as they say, I was fearful of gays and never heard of transgender people - not a good attitude. Sadly we can't. Well, I mean you and I can of course but speaking in a broader context no, there is absolutely no such agreement. For example i posted an example of an illustrated book that was eventually pulled from bc ELEMENTARY schools which depicted homosexual sex act in full graphic glory as it discussed how the two should continue to explore other great fun sex acts they could do. Elementary school. This kind of thing is fairly prevelant and worse when people complain they are cast as 'evil far right maga' or ignored. A school teacher in ontario brought this up at a school board meeting and said she'd had 20 years as a teacher, was very pro gay and supported trans people but was very concerned about some of the literature that young people were being exposed to which addressed these issues and glorified operations for example while minimizing or ignoring the downsides and she felt a discussion about age appropriate material had to happen. She got cut off because challenging this was 'hate speech' and fired, and it was obvious from the video of the events she was just concerned and had nothing against gays or trans at all, and would have found hetero examples to be inappropriate for the ages involved as well. As to your nephews, nobody is suggesting that gay children shoudn't be allowed to interact with straight children. There is a difference between that and actually discussing sexuality and sexual identity and acts with kids. As to any damage, the literature is pretty clear that kids that are exposed to sexualization and sexual identity issues early suffer damage which won't show up until later. That doesnt' mean your nephews are somehow damaged because they know a gay kid, but as i said that's different than actively promoting or having detailed discussions about sex and sexuality Quote
NAME REMOVED Posted February 9 Author Report Posted February 9 2 hours ago, User said: At least you have enough decency to say they should not be in women's sports. So... you do agree then, this is a political issue to oppose folks pushing men into womens sports. This is a serious issue because folks on the left are making it one to oppose this. Glad that we got this figured out for you! I've never believed otherwise. You may be thinking of someone else. Quote
User Posted February 9 Report Posted February 9 1 hour ago, DUI_Offender said: I've never believed otherwise. You may be thinking of someone else. This was you: "So why is this even an election issue. I remember the old days, when things like jobs, the economy, etc. would take precedent. " This is an election issue because people are pushing men who think they are women into women's sports. Quote
NAME REMOVED Posted February 9 Author Report Posted February 9 1 hour ago, User said: This was you: "So why is this even an election issue. I remember the old days, when things like jobs, the economy, etc. would take precedent. " ...and? Quote
User Posted February 9 Report Posted February 9 1 hour ago, DUI_Offender said: ...and? Are you confused as to why anyone is making this an election issue or do you support making this an election issue because you agree that men do not belong in womens sports? Quote
NAME REMOVED Posted February 9 Author Report Posted February 9 (edited) 1 hour ago, User said: Are you confused as to why anyone is making this an election issue or do you support making this an election issue because you agree that men do not belong in womens sports? It not an important election issue. At the end of the day, it does not concern most Canadians. You have an unhealthy obsession with transgender people. Edited February 9 by DUI_Offender Quote
A Freeman Posted February 9 Report Posted February 9 19 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: I did. You believe that society should be based on holy books that only a minority of people believe in.. A testament to how true wisdom has been stripped from society, giving rise to the pseudo-intellectuals (the blind leading the blind). Quote
Michael Hardner Posted February 9 Report Posted February 9 13 hours ago, User said: 1. There is no if. We have had these discussions before, yet you insist on using language like this. 2. As I keep pointing out on here to others and you, it is only a bad "culture war" when we fight back to you and others. 3. The Republicans did not start pushing trans the kids back in the 90's. 4. Are you admitting that you are defending the trans the kids movement here? 5. You are choosing to label yourself here, not me. We had an agreement. 6. What does this have to do with anything? 7. If the left wing folks are not pushing trans the kids... then there would not be this policy to focus on in opposing them. 1. Yes, I to want to use neutral language. I don't want to call to people bigots, and I don't want us to call them crazy. 2. I don't consider myself part of the culture war. If you do then why are you talking to me if you think I'm in it? You must think I'm a liar, right? Do you believe I don't take part in it? That's why I'm not calling you a bigot, and you seem to think that I'm crazy. Does it even make sense to have a conversation with a crazy person? 3. No, they started demonizing the Democrats as not being a threat rather than another political point of view. 4. No. 5. If you think leftists are crazy, and you think I'm a leftist then... 6. You might feel differently about the issue if you knew any, I would think. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Michael Hardner Posted February 9 Report Posted February 9 36 minutes ago, A Freeman said: A testament to how true wisdom has been stripped from society, giving rise to the pseudo-intellectuals (the blind leading the blind). Believing in ancient book based on Babylonian Legends and pre-literate superstition as truth is not wisdom. 1 Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
User Posted February 9 Report Posted February 9 6 hours ago, DUI_Offender said: It not an important election issue. At the end of the day, it does not concern most Canadians. You have an unhealthy obsession with transgender people. Flip flopping yet again. You are not an honest person. Quote
User Posted February 9 Report Posted February 9 5 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: 1. Yes, I to want to use neutral language. I don't want to call to people bigots, and I don't want us to call them crazy. No, you use this language as if there is no issue and it is only a problem or a fabricated culture war when people oppose these things. 5 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: 2. I don't consider myself part of the culture war. If you do then why are you talking to me if you think I'm in it? You must think I'm a liar, right? Do you believe I don't take part in it? That's why I'm not calling you a bigot, and you seem to think that I'm crazy. Does it even make sense to have a conversation with a crazy person? You may not consider yourself part of it, but you are certainly only rooting against one side of it. As I have repeatedly explained this to you and others, this is an online forum. You post things here, you should expect that people will engage with you on what you say. I engage with you because you have posted something I have something to say in response to. You are trying awfully hard to get me to call you names, why? We have an agreement. 5 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: 3. No, they started demonizing the Democrats as not being a threat rather than another political point of view. People have been demonizing each other in politics far longer than the 1990's... 5 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: 6. You might feel differently about the issue if you knew any, I would think. Why? None of my positions are based on feelings. They are based on fact, logic, and reason. Quote
User Posted February 9 Report Posted February 9 5 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: Believing in ancient book based on Babylonian Legends and pre-literate superstition as truth is not wisdom. What book is it you are talking about here? Quote
CdnFox Posted February 9 Report Posted February 9 5 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: 1. Yes, I to want to use neutral language. I don't want to call to people bigots, and I don't want us to call them crazy. Just chuds right? Quote
NAME REMOVED Posted February 9 Author Report Posted February 9 (edited) 4 hours ago, User said: Flip flopping yet again. You are not an honest person. You need to learn reading comprehension skills. Or perhaps you are in the closet. Your fascination with Transgenders is amazing. I bet that if I inspected your computer, it would be full of shemale porn. Edited February 9 by DUI_Offender Quote
User Posted February 9 Report Posted February 9 37 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said: You need to learn reading comprehension skills. Or perhaps you are in the closet. Your fascination with Transgenders is amazing. I bet that if I inspected your computer, it would be full of shemale porn. You started this thread talking about transgenders. As I continually point out, you folks are just fine pushing this garbage, it is only when you are called out that you start pretending to care about calling it others fascination or a phony culture war... Quote
SkyHigh Posted February 9 Report Posted February 9 23 hours ago, User said: the left wing folks are not pushing trans the kids... then there would not be this policy to focus on in opposing them Putting aside the what aboutism, any evidence to support this claim that there's a political movement (actual politicians) that push "kids" to be trans? Of course you don't. How many trans people do you know? Quote
CdnFox Posted February 9 Report Posted February 9 2 hours ago, DUI_Offender said: You need to learn reading comprehension skills. Or perhaps you are in the closet. Your fascination with Transgenders is amazing. I bet that if I inspected your computer, it would be full of shemale porn. says the guy who actually started the threat about transgenders And who constantly collapses into homosexual and pedophile fantasies whenever he loses an argument. 45 minutes ago, SkyHigh said: Putting aside the what aboutism, any evidence to support this claim that there's a political movement (actual politicians) that push "kids" to be trans? Of course you don't. How many trans people do you know? Actually there is. The political movement does not have to be run by politicians, in fact most or not. However we have seen the school boards who are political bodies and often elected in many cases strongly push circumstances that will encourage children to be trans and repress anyone who challenges that. We've had many many articles about that here it has been discussed many times. So if your argument was based on that, you lose Quote
NAME REMOVED Posted February 9 Author Report Posted February 9 2 hours ago, User said: You started this thread talking about transgenders. Yes, in case you did not bother reading the topic title, I asked why this is even a serious political issue? Have you even met a transgender person? They don't bother me. I worry about things like the economy, health care, and taxes when I vote. I could not care less about Transgenders. Why do you care? Quote
User Posted February 10 Report Posted February 10 1 hour ago, DUI_Offender said: Yes, in case you did not bother reading the topic title, I asked why this is even a serious political issue? Have you even met a transgender person? They don't bother me. I worry about things like the economy, health care, and taxes when I vote. I could not care less about Transgenders. Why do you care? You just claimed to care, then you didn’t, then you did, now you don’t after starting this thread not caring. All you can do is lie and obfuscate. I care because people like you are pushing this madness. Quote
User Posted February 10 Report Posted February 10 2 hours ago, SkyHigh said: Putting aside the what aboutism, any evidence to support this claim that there's a political movement (actual politicians) that push "kids" to be trans? Of course you don't. How many trans people do you know? This is a thread asking why we care, when I point out why, that is answering the thread. Is this where you pretend to be ignorant of the fact that folks have been pushing men/boys into women’s sports? Into their private spaces? That schools dominated by leftists are pushing so-called “gender affirming” care into schools? Forcing teachers and students to play the pronoun game? Passing laws to hide this from parents? Siding with this madness in divorces against parents who don’t “affirm” their kids? A medical industry pushing surgery on kids? You are the problem. At least have the courage to say you support this crap instead of pretending it isn’t happening. Quote
CdnFox Posted February 10 Report Posted February 10 5 hours ago, DUI_Offender said: Yes, in case you did not bother reading the topic title, I asked why this is even a serious political issue? Have you even met a transgender person? They don't bother me. I worry about things like the economy, health care, and taxes when I vote. I could not care less about Transgenders. Why do you care? 4 hours ago, User said: This is a thread asking why we care, when I point out why, that is answering the thread. Is this where you pretend to be ignorant of the fact that folks have been pushing men/boys into women’s sports? Into their private spaces? That schools dominated by leftists are pushing so-called “gender affirming” care into schools? Forcing teachers and students to play the pronoun game? Passing laws to hide this from parents? Siding with this madness in divorces against parents who don’t “affirm” their kids? A medical industry pushing surgery on kids? You are the problem. At least have the courage to say you support this crap instead of pretending it isn’t happening. We've seen this so many times, they insist we shouldn't talk about things then demand to know why we're talking about things and then get mad when we talk about the things. I think someone has a bit of a repressed issue or two to deal with. But it's not even just this, I pointed out dozens of times that whenever Mike sees a subject he doesn't like immediately posts a version of "Why are we even talking about this". It's like this weird trick the left has whereby if they don't like something they say we shouldn't talk about it and then anyone that talks about it to disagree with them is a terrible person 1 Quote
NAME REMOVED Posted February 10 Author Report Posted February 10 (edited) 6 hours ago, User said: You just claimed to care, then you didn’t, then you did, now you don’t after starting this thread not caring. All you can do is lie and obfuscate. I care because people like you are pushing this madness. On every topic related to the LGBTQ community, especially Transgenders, you go apeshit. Which leads me to believe that you may be hiding something. Do you by any chance, pick up She-males on the local street corner. Did you get a disease who engaged in sexual intercourse with one? Did a shemale rip you off? Were you a "top" or "bottom" while engaged with your lover? AlI I know is you are completely obsessed with Transgender people. I assume you are in the closet. Edited February 10 by DUI_Offender Quote
User Posted February 10 Report Posted February 10 6 hours ago, DUI_Offender said: On every topic related to the LGBTQ community, especially Transgenders, you go apeshit. Which leads me to believe that you may be hiding something. Do you by any chance, pick up She-males on the local street corner. Did you get a disease who engaged in sexual intercourse with one? Did a shemale rip you off? Were you a "top" or "bottom" while engaged with your lover? AlI I know is you are completely obsessed with Transgender people. I assume you are in the closet. How would you know when you have spent so much time cowardly hiding from me? As usual, you clowns can't be honest enough to admit what you support because you know how absurd it is, so you play these dumb games instead. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted February 10 Report Posted February 10 20 hours ago, User said: What book is it you are talking about here? The Bible ? Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
User Posted February 10 Report Posted February 10 1 minute ago, Michael Hardner said: The Bible ? Oh, so why are you trying to be insulting and rude about it? Quote
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