PA Voter Fraud Today 25/10/2024

[gatomontes99]

8 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

In my entire life, "voter fraud" was never an issue, until Trump falsely started claiming the elections were rigged starting in 2016. Just like the Nazis, the GOP is gaslighting the public. 

So Trump pointing it out makes it invalid? Explain that leap of logic.

[Chrissy1979]

What's more pathetic: gaslighting people to undermine democracy or falling for Trump lies over and over and over...?

[gatomontes99]

1 minute ago, Chrissy1979 said:

What's more pathetic: gaslighting people to undermine democracy or falling for Trump lies over and over and over...?

What are you insenuating? Trump forced 3 counties in PA to make up voter fraud allegations?

[NAME REMOVED]

11 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

So Trump pointing it out makes it invalid? Explain that leap of logic.

The United States has had Democratic elections for nearly 250 years, with zero evidence of election fraud. Yet for the past 3 elections, one candidate tells the World that there is widespread electoral fraud with zero evidence, and people actually believe him.

North America is scary how gullible people are. 

[gatomontes99]

2 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

The United States has had Democratic elections for nearly 250 years, with zero evidence of election fraud. Yet for the past 3 elections, one candidate tells the World that there is widespread electoral fraud with zero evidence, and people actually believe him.

North America is scary how gullible people are. 

Well, there isn't zero evidence. Why do you assume there was zero evidence? These memes that have been around for at least 4 decades a out dead voters didn't come out of thin air. They actually happened, in small numbers. But there was a whistle blower that detailed how democrats harvest mail in ballots and change them. It was in the NY Post. Ask any election consultant and theyll tell you there is 2% cheating in just about every election.

Just because you've been on the dark doesn't mean it wasn't happening.

[Chrissy1979]

1 hour ago, gatomontes99 said:

Well, there isn't zero evidence. Why do you assume there was zero evidence? These memes that have been around for at least 4 decades a out dead voters didn't come out of thin air. They actually happened, in small numbers. But there was a whistle blower that detailed how democrats harvest mail in ballots and change them. It was in the NY Post. Ask any election consultant and theyll tell you there is 2% cheating in just about every election.

Just because you've been on the dark doesn't mean it wasn't happening.

He lost all his court cases. That means he had no evidence.

[gatomontes99]

35 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said:

He lost all his court cases. That means he had no evidence.

Not necessarily. The court needs proof of harm and a method of remedy.

Obviously, in the following example they use money. But say you lost a loved one and filed a lawsuit to have that loved one brought back. You can prove harm and you can prove who did it, but what could the court do?

That is what happened in the majority of cases regarding the 2020 election. I can prove PA sent out ballots against the PA election laws. But I can't prove that changed the election. I can prove that there were x number of fraudulent votes but I can't prove who they voted for. How can the court fix that? They can't.

Just because a case doesn't go to trial doesn't mean there is no evidence.

[Chrissy1979]

It was so insignificant, it didn't matter. Still, that didn't prevent them from misleading  you guys and getting you riled up into a mob to attack the Capitol and try to kill law makers and law enforcement.

It's like you're too stupid to ever learn your lesson.

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

In my entire life, "voter fraud" was never an issue, until Trump falsely started claiming the elections were rigged starting in 2016. Just like the Nazis, the GOP is gaslighting the public. 

Well then that means you weren't paying attention. It has been raised as a very serious issue in both Canada and America a number of times in the past.

Along with other interference issues such as the pierre poutine event here in Canada.

Perhaps you just turn a blind eye to things that don't fit your echo chamber  

[Moonlight Graham]

21 hours ago, CdnFox said:

The argument that black people are too dumb to figure out how to get ID is absolutely insane and beyond racist. 

The GDP has no interest in that belief.

And the dems know it's not true either.

The GDP wants to eliminate the option for voter fraud or at least minimize it and the democrats don't.

It's not because black people are "dumb".  I have an African-American friend who lives in Georgia.  He's so poor he lives in a motel room with his children.  He's a sweet wonderful southern gentleman and one of the most amazing dad's i've ever met.  His verbally abusive wife left him about 6 months ago and then he lost his job a couple of months ago and now he doesn't have enough money to pay his child support from a previous marriage so they just cancelled his driver's license.  He can get another photo ID but if he needed it to vote he'd only have 2 weeks to get it before the election.  How fast does your driver's license renewal come in the mail.  Mine doesn't come in 2 weeks!

There's other methods they can do for verification besides photo ID, like signature match or whatever.

[CdnFox]

10 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said:

It's not because black people are "dumb".  I have an African-American friend who lives in Georgia.  He's so poor he lives in a motel room with his children.  He's a sweet wonderful southern gentleman and one of the most amazing dad's i've ever met.  His verbally abusive wife left him about 6 months ago and then he lost his job a couple of months ago and now he doesn't have enough money to pay his child support from a previous marriage so they just cancelled his driver's license.  He can get another photo ID but if he needed it to vote he'd only have 2 weeks to get it before the election.  How fast does your driver's license renewal come in the mail.  Mine doesn't come in 2 weeks!

There's other methods they can do for verification besides photo ID, like signature match or whatever.

First off, that can happen to anybody. It's not exclusive to blacks so the argument that it's exclusive to minorities is simply not an accurate one.

Secondly it sounds like he's having a tough time in his life right now. But it also sounds like that's not always the case. I'm sure at some point in his life he could manage to come up with a $15 once every 5 years that it would cost to have ID and if he couldn't now he'd still have the id already. And i'm sure in the not too distant future he'll find work and in a short time be able to afford it again. 

. Like, I'm sorry but it's just not believable to me that somebody can't put aside $3 a year to be able to identify themselves for government services or the like. Short-term, sure I can believe that can happen to someone but come on.

But hey, sure if someone can demonstrate they're so broke that 15 dollar every 5 years would represent a significant hardship then by all means have a state program they can get it for free. 

But really people can get id if they want id.  hell walk into the party of your choice and tell them you'd love to vote for them but you need id, could they pay for your id. Bet they say yes.  There will be a way and i bet it doesn't take a whole lot of effort.