Housing affordability is a crisis in Canada

[CdnFox]

4 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

So you're saying that it is impossible to evict a tenant, correct? Nobody in rental history as a landlord has been able to. Are currently able to.

 

I see.  So having lost the argument and being unable to make your point you resort to this kind of childish nonsense. 

I am saying quite clearly that you have no 'right' to do so, it's a privilege the gov't may or may not allow. 

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That would be the definition of it not being a right.

Are you a three year old that you need this explained to you?  the definition of 'not a right' is NOT 'can never do something'.  It's not your 'Right" to sleep with any woman you choose, yet somehow lots of men and women wind up sleeping together. It's not your 'Right" to be able to drive on a public road, but it will be allowed by the owner of the road  (the gov't) if they decide you're qualified. 

A "right" is something the gov't CANNOT take away, except with exceptional circumstances and exercising exceptional powers.  Anything the gov't can take away on a whim is not a right. 

The gov't can decide tomorrow not to let you evict someone from your property even if they have not paid their rent, and have done so. They can at a whim decide to change how much you charge for rent, they can change the terms of your rental agreement.  

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Women in Afghanistan have no rights. There isn't even a loophole for them.

Gee where does it SAY that? You were so insistant that rights exist unless it's written down somewhere that they don't  

but that's probably true.  the "gov't"  there probably doesn't recognize women as having any particular rights. Just as our gov'ts don't recognize landlords as having any rights. 

4 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

Just because it is tedious to fight for does not refute it being a right.

Actually it does - the courts have long ruled that if a right cannot be freely accessed or if someone impedes access to it, then their rights have been denied.  

But - nobody has mentioned that. This is YOUR fake argument not mine.  The gov't saying "You must not evict even tho you haven't been paid" is not a "tedious fight', it's the end of the discussion. 

4 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

When a poster is pointing to redefining words or bringing into question their definition. Or in your case, questioning one's understanding of common terms, they truly have nothing left to bring to the debate.

That sounds a lot like what someone who knows damn well they were wrong would say. 

I've made a very clear argument with facts and examples. YOU have completely misused words, failed to offer examples despite multiple requests, and offered nothing but circular logic, and apperently if someone points that out your big plan is to declare victory and cry.

As i have shown and as you have utterly failed to refute, landlords have no rights.  And as a result we've got fewer and fewer landlords and the ones we have are the ones you DO NOT want, who will spend whatever money they have to to get their way because they can afford it.  I have no patience for those like yourself who pretend that the current situation is in any way fair to landlords OR fails to realize it just means vastly higher prices and fewer units for the next generation.  Which has already happened and will get worse 

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1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

Gee where does it SAY that?

Taliban disregards women’s rights in Afghanistan. Observing the strict Sharia laws they employ, specifically revoke women's rights.

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

Are you a three year old that you need this explained to you? 

You just don't have any evidence to your opinions. Would be rather easy to produce proof if you did.

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

A "right" is something the gov't CANNOT take away, except with exceptional circumstances

Like Covid-19, right? Am sure you will produce demonstrable proof of the widespread occurrence of otherwise.

You can't gaslight your way out of this. You're backed against a wall, and are flailing.

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

This is YOUR fake argument not mine.

Yours is one you can't quantify in any way shape or form.

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

I've made a very clear argument with facts and examples.

Opinions and no actual cites.

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

I have no patience for those like yourself who pretend that the current situation is in any way fair to landlords OR fails to realize it just means vastly higher prices and fewer units for the next generation.  

People who pay to rent space lawfully, should have rights protecting them from predatory practices from landlords.

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Perspektiv said:

Taliban disregards women’s rights in Afghanistan. Observing the strict Sharia laws they employ, specifically revoke women's rights.

Okay, now you're just being Beyond stupid. First off that's literally a document claiming they have rights. You said they had no rights and I said where does it say that you have no rights and you post something that says they have rights.

Second off that's just an article. You didn't know where shape or form addresses whether or not it is written in the law that they have rights.

Grow up and do better

1 hour ago, Perspektiv said:

You just don't have any evidence to your opinions. Would be rather easy to produce proof if you did.

I do and I did. As I pointed out during covid the government decided that they would not let landlords kick people out if they didn't pay their rent. This is a known fact. Proves my point nicely. I have provided ample examples and evidence. Are you saying that that never happened? Are you saying that the government didn't do that?

1 hour ago, Perspektiv said:

Yours is one you can't quantify in any way shape or form.

But I did.

 

So basically the rest is you being a little biatch and crying and whining.  

You claim that landlords have rights. You have not produced a single scrap of evidence or argument to support that.

I have demonstrated that landlords do not have rights. I have shown that the government can at a whim choose whether or not landlords can remove people from their property for non payments, they can arbitrarily at a moment's notice change the deal with regards to how much they can charge for rent, they can arbitrarily change any element of the rental agreements and there's nothing a landlord can do.  

And all YOU"VE done is crybaby scream that "THEY REALLY DO HAVE RIGHTS!!! REALY!!!  I CAN"T NAME ONE BUT THEY DOOOOO".  You can't even provide an example of one. 

 

Go re read this thread. You should be deeply ashamed at your performance here.  You're acting like a complete tard. 

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3 hours ago, CdnFox said:

First off that's literally a document claiming they have rights.

Far less than a landlord in Canada, apparently.

3 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Second off that's just an article.

You could peruse the WHO, UN and check US sanctions, regarding their treatment of women and revoking of the rights they enjoyed under western occupation. 

3 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Grow up and do better

You could lead the way by posting links to show how landlords in Canada have no rights, vs it being a histrionic opinion of yours.

3 hours ago, CdnFox said:

As I pointed out during covid the government decided that they would not let landlords kick people out if they didn't pay their rent.

Ah, you mean like extreme situations, or how you worded it:

6 hours ago, CdnFox said:

A "right" is something the gov't CANNOT take away, except with exceptional circumstances and exercising exceptional powers. 

Like covid, right?

Kind of like how I had no right to assembly during the same time, yet somehow have it now?

Unless of course you can prove this is sweeping and ongoing,  sounds like more opinion than fact.

3 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Proves my point nicely.

Change point with opinion, and sure. Fair enough.

3 hours ago, CdnFox said:

So basically the rest is you being a little biatch and crying and whining.  

Insults to further prove you have no point.

If you had one you would have already provided cites. Also ironic, you're resorting to this after eluding to me whining. 

3 hours ago, CdnFox said:

I have demonstrated that landlords do not have rights. 

You have opined. Quite heavily. You are light on the demonstration. I don't see a link, a cite. You won't even talk about a specific case to give your argument teeth.

You want me to post links, so you can predictably distract from that fact and try to gaslight your way out of the hole you dug yourself into.

3 hours ago, CdnFox said:

You should be deeply ashamed at your performance here.

You're resorting to personal insults. You truly have a weird relationship with irony.

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Perspektiv said:

Far less than a landlord in Canada, apparently.

Nope.  They have rights according to the document, it's just that a group is ignoring them. 

In my books that means they don't have rights but you literally posted a cite that says they do to prove they don't.

1 hour ago, Perspektiv said:

You could lead the way by posting links to show how landlords in Canada have no rights

Already done with examples. They don't have the right to the terms in their contracts, the gov't can change that anytime and has done so.   They dont' have the right to their property, the gov't can demand they provide it to someone else for use if they wish to and have done so. They don't have the right to freely charge what they want, OR EVEN to charge what the gov't had agreed to when they rented it.  They don't have a right to increase rents when their costs go up. 

So.... what rights do they have?  I've pointed this out.

And this has been provided previously and I've pointed all of this out. Obviously you are of insufficient intelligence to understand this argument which is basically a grade 8 level of comprehension required. And you don't get it because you keep demanding that I present the same argument over and over again without being able to refute it

Sorry kid, you're just too stupid for this conversation. I've made my point I've clarified it I presented the evidence I've given examples you have given nothing and yet still demand i give you what has already been given. 

Tenants will get screwed more and more over time in this country for the foreseeable future and they've totally got it coming because  of people like you. 

 

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2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

In my books that means they don't have rights

They don't. You know they don't, but are playing obtuse to deflect the fact you can't prove landlords have no rights in Canada.

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Already done with examples.

Landlords not having rights rights now? Sweeping across Canada?

You have not presented anything. No statistics. Just opinion.

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

They don't have the right to freely charge what they want

So an industry having regulations, is a removal of rights?

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

They don't have a right to increase rents when their costs go up. 

They have the right to increase after 12 months. Again, not a revoking of rights.

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Sorry kid, you're just too stupid for this conversation.

When you act like something is too complicated for others but your information being vague at best, its because you have no clue what you're talking about. You otherwise would have been incredibly specific and detailed about it, vs a bunch of vague opinions. 

This isn't an intelligence issue. Its a lack of evidence issue. Not liking to be called on it, issue.

Deflecting to my intelligence or my lack of knowledge when you can't even provide a cite to support what you're saying, is gaslighting and mirroring.

Do better.

 

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

They don't.

 

Your source says they do.  If you disagree with your source why did you provide it?

3 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

Landlords not having rights rights now? Sweeping across Canada?

You have not presented anything. No statistics. Just opinion.

I have presented fact.  It is a fact that provinces banned evictions even if the renters didn't pay. 

That's a  fact. The other stuff i mentioned is also fact. 

You can't cope with the fact so you just repeat the same lie over and over again. 

3 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

When you act like something is too complicated for others but your information being vague at best

IT's too complicated for you. That's for sure.  And there's nothing vauge in the slightest. 

Landlords do not have the right to kick tenants out. 

Landlords do not have the right to adjsut their pricing based on real cost increases even if it means they lose money

etc etc, won't bother listing the rest again. 

THose are specific examples. 

I've asked you a million times for examples where they do have rights and you can't come up with any.  I'd already shot down the 'kick tenents out' one before you mentioned it, that simply wasn't true.  

 

 

So you gonna grow a pair and actually debate the issue now or are you going to be a **** and pretend i haven't been very specific and name all these rights you say landlords have? Or actually be smart and admit they don't. 

 

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2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Your source says they do. 

Am confused. Where? Be specific. Where is it stated that Afghanistan women have all of their human rights respected like you're claiming.

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

I have presented fact

Where? No cites. 

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

It is a fact that provinces banned evictions even if the renters didn't pay.

What current laws, prevent such evictions? Be specific. 

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

The other stuff i mentioned is also fact. 

What other stuff? The unfounded and baseless claim landlords don't have a single right? Be specific. Where is this stated?

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

IT's too complicated for you

You can't specifically articulate your points. You can't point to data that supports it. Again. Irony is not something you seem to appreciate.

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Landlords do not have the right to kick tenants out. 

Cite? 

Be specific. Where in the laws does it state this?

I can specifically list you rights Afghan women have lost since 2021, effectively making them prisoners inside their homes.

You can't be specific, as if you were, the BS you're peddling would fall apart.

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Landlords do not have the right to adjsut their pricing based on real cost increases even if it means they lose money

So landlords can't adjust pricing? This would mean they have no rights. You stated zero rights. Be specific. Where do they have no right to adjust pricing?

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

won't bother listing the rest again. 

Of the lies?

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Landlords do not have the right to kick tenants out. 

Under no current circumstances? Currently no right? Where? Be specific.

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

I've asked you a million times

You can't even pull accurate numbers out your butt if you tried.

Your cites seem just as elusive.

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

So you gonna grow a pair

You're avoiding posting cites. At this point your vagina is cavernous enough to do a three point turn inside. With a minivan, no less.

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

haven't been very specific

You haven't posted any cites.

Because there are none. Prove me wrong. You deflecting from this proves my point. Prove me wrong.

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Or actually be smart

Like you am assuming, who exerts immense energy debating with low IQ individuals, yet can't provide a cite on their stances? 

[CdnFox]

11 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

13 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Your source says they do. 

Am confused. Where? Be specific.

Well how about here:

Women's rights in Afghanistan are not respected

So it's very clear the source says they have rights and they're not being 'respected'. So they have rights. 

And again:

In spite of their initial promises to respect women’s rights within the framework of Sharia law, 

Can't respect rights that don't exist. Can't DISRESPECT rights that don't exist. 

Your source says they have rights. 

 

And once again we see your childish behavior claiming that something wasn't said IN THE VERY SOURCE YOU PRIOVIDED . YOUR OWN SOURCE says so,  so you didn't even bother to read your own sources. 

As to the rest, you just continue to repeat the same lies again and again and again and demand information that's already been provided multiple times which you cannot refute. 

Landlords have no rights in Canada. You have failed to present one single right that they have. And as you were the one who claimed they do the onus is on you to prove it and you haven't even MENTIONED one of the 'rights' other than the one that was already shot down.  And all you do is lie and demand that the same facts be repeated again and again and again

What a pathetic little weasel you have turned out to be. How disappointing.

Run along and play with  your lego little boy. 

[CdnFox]

2 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

They had rights, they weren't respected when they were removed.

Doesn't say they were removed. Says they have rights and they're not being respected. 

Of course you realize you're wrong and you're trying desperately to lie and spin your way past it. Which is pretty much the story of your argument here. 

Next time read your own cite before posting it and THINK. 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Perspektiv said:

Still desperately clinging to your off subject exit ramp, to avoid talking about the fact you have provided no cites for your opinionated claims.

That's your cite and you LITERALLY ASKED for that info.  I said your source said they had rights and  you said:

"Am confused. Where? Be specific."

I answered YOUR question and now somehow the fact you were wrong is my fault?

I guess when you've failed as hard as you all you have left is lies. 

There are no rights.  As shown you DON'T have the right to kick people out for non payment, the gov't only sometimes allows it and sometimes they don't.

Whatever.  You're obviously a morron. You can't back up a single one of your claims and you're mad at me that your own source disagrees with you AND your mad that when you asked me to show where i did. How pathetic. 

1 hour ago, Perspektiv said:

Post one, to support your point. Just one. You can't. 

You know what i said was true, it's common knowledge but sure. 

COVID-19: Eviction Bans and Suspensions to Support Renters | CMHC (cmhc-schl.gc.ca)

Ooopsie!!!   The gov't cannot just suspend a right. They have to take special measures under the charter to do that. 

And you knew that. So you're a lying sack of shit

So here's the charter of rights and freedoms.  See anything in there about being a landord or landlords having rights? Nope? Me either

Download or order the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms and the Canadian Bill of Rights - Canada.ca

 

You claim they're all rights, and you have provided nothing.

You have been 100% dishonest. You are completely beneath my intellect level and unable to have an intelligent conversation. Go ahead and keep posting I'll just make fun of you for sport. You are a sniveling worm and your wife should be deeply embarrassed to be seen with you.

 

 

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

ou're clearly derailing and deflecting, to avoid having to post evidence about the subject at hand.

Literally just posted evidence. 

You've all the intellect and debating skills of a particularly stunned monkey.  I should get you a typewriter. 

3 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

You're saying landlords have no rights. This is false.

Yet you can't find a single one.  Yawn. 

 

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

Your own words, too.

And true. That is absolutely the case.  A right cannot be taken away except with exceptional legal circumstances. 

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You're showing your true colors under pressure. 

By telling the truth? You think the gov't can take away actual rights on a whim? You're THAT stupid?

Dance monkey dance   

[Black Dog]

2 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

And true. That is absolutely the case.  A right cannot be taken away except with exceptional legal circumstances. 

By telling the truth? You think the gov't can take away actual rights on a whim? You're THAT stupid?

Dance monkey dance   

Very cool thing to say to a Black guy!

[CdnFox]

13 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

Very cool thing to say to a Black guy!

Ok "black dog" 

[Black Dog]

26 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Ok "black dog" 

What does my user name have to do with you making a racial slur towards a Black poster?

 

[CdnFox]

4 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

What does my user name have to do with you making a racial slur towards a Black poster?

 

Are you saying black labs matter?

The only racial slur here is yours. But nice try.  I see that having failed to make an argument with logic or reason he's called for back up to try to play the race card  

If it makes you feel any better, you're more of a leech  

[Black Dog]

3 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Are you saying black labs matter?

The only racial slur here is yours. But nice try.  I see that having failed to make an argument with logic or reason he's called for back up to try to play the race card  

No I saw you getting flustered with having your horrible arguments torn apart that you used a racial slur.

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If it makes you feel any better, you're more of a leech

This is funny coming from a guy defending landlords, the biggest leeches there are.

[CdnFox]

2 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

No I saw you getting flustered with having your horrible arguments torn apart that you used a racial slur.

 

Well we both know that's a lie kiddo.   Pathetic.  It's bad enough for someone to pull the race card, for someone else to do it on his behalf is just plain sad. 

But typical liberal - loosing a fight so gotta try the race card  

[Black Dog]

4 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Well we both know that's a lie kiddo.   Pathetic. 

We can all see you called the Black poster a monkey, which is a common racial slur. So where's the lie?

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It's bad enough for someone to pull the race card, for someone else to do it on his behalf is just plain sad. 

But typical liberal - loosing a fight so gotta try the race card  

 

FTR no one asked me for help, he was doing just fine ripping you to bits on this.

It's not a conspiracy, it's just different people noticing what a piece of shit you are.

 

[CdnFox]

12 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

We can all see you called the Black poster a monkey, which is a common racial slur. So where's the lie?

 

What a load of Crap. Common in Canada and I don't even think of him as black he's just another poster. And I have called people monkeys many times

The only racism here is yours. Because you think everybody is racist that isn't you and everything is racist except what you approve of you see something and you say it's racist. It's not racist. Dance monkey is a very common phrase and one I've used myself many times

And if you thought that he was winning the argument then you would comment on that. You wouldn't try to introduce fake racism into the conversation.

Typical lefty. Argument so you have to play the race card.

 

[Black Dog]

Just now, CdnFox said:

What a load of Crap. Common in Canada and I don't even think of him as black he's just another poster. And I have called people monkeys many times

There's no way you don't know he's Black he talks about it a lot including in this very thread.

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The only racism here is yours. Because you think everybody is racist that isn't you and everything is racist except what you approve of you see something and you say it's racist. It's not racist.

Utter gibberish.

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Dance monkey is a very common phrase and one I've used myself many times

 

Hmmm it's almost as if similar words and phrases can take on different meanings in different contexts. 

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And if you thought that he was winning the argument then you would comment on that. You wouldn't try to introduce fake racism into the conversation.

Because i thought it was crazy that someone would be so mad about losing an argument they'd use a racial slur.

 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Black Dog said:

There's no way you don't know he's Black he talks about it a lot including in this very thread.

Utter gibberish.

Hmmm it's almost as if similar words and phrases can take on different meanings in different contexts. 

Because i thought it was crazy that someone would be so mad about losing an argument they'd use a racial slur.

All you're doing here is racebaiting. There's no racism here until you tried to make it racist.  He's not whining about racism, i'm not whining about racism, the only one is the woke lefty that wants to add racism in where there is none.  Pathetic

[CdnFox]

40 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

That there are no current landlord rights? You have posted none.

Of course i did. I posted the documents that contain our rights and showed there's no mention. 

I posted proof that landlords do not have the right to evict people as you claimed. 

YOU however have provided nothing. 

42 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

Like a deadly outbreak.

Like anytime they want without any special legislation as is required to set aside a right. 

Did you see a notwithstanding clause used? Was the emergency act declared over covid? no?

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All of us had rights taken away. Does this mean we currently have no rights?

All of your rights were taken away? When did that happen? Which rights did you have 'taken away'? Have you considered suing?

 

Buddy - either put up proof landlords have rights or admit you're  a dishonest liar.   Go on - lets see  you.  Post proof of these rights. 

[Black Dog]

4 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

All you're doing here is racebaiting. There's no racism here until you tried to make it racist. 

You called a black guy a monkey.