herbie Posted July 21, 2024 Report Posted July 21, 2024 SO Biden's bowed out. Whatcha gonna whine about now? Quote
User Posted July 21, 2024 Report Posted July 21, 2024 2 hours ago, Aristides said: You need continuity to run a government, not political hacks who have to start from zero learning their departments and jobs with every administration. Making civil servants beholden to a single person for their positions is not democracy, it is autocracy. You need accountability. A protected bureaucracy that works to its own ends is not continuity to run a government, nor is that democracy. Voting for a leader is democracy. Voting for a leader to enact the policies and positions they want that you support is democracy. No one voted for a system of bureaucrats who think they are above an election and can do whatever they want to oppose the administration that was elected. Quote
Aristides Posted July 21, 2024 Report Posted July 21, 2024 (edited) 3 minutes ago, User said: You need accountability. A protected bureaucracy that works to its own ends is not continuity to run a government, nor is that democracy. Voting for a leader is democracy. Voting for a leader to enact the policies and positions they want that you support is democracy. No one voted for a system of bureaucrats who think they are above an election and can do whatever they want to oppose the administration that was elected. Accountability to who, their country or a single person who changes every 4 to 8 years? Concentrating all the power under a single person Is a dictatorship. Something the Democrats have never advocated. Edited July 21, 2024 by Aristides Quote
User Posted July 21, 2024 Report Posted July 21, 2024 15 minutes ago, Aristides said: Accountability to who, their country or a single person who changes every 4 to 8 years? Concentrating all the power under a single person Is a dictatorship. Something the Democrats have never advocated. The President already has all the power of the executive under him. It is no dictatorship, we have 3 parts of government, checks and balances. You are the one pushing for this unelected bureaucratic dictatorship. Quote
impartialobserver Posted July 22, 2024 Report Posted July 22, 2024 Even my wife who is rather liberal knows and respects the process. The process (elections) does not always produce the candidate that you want. So in short.. Trump will win which is not a result that I want but I respect the process and will move on with life. Quote
Aristides Posted July 22, 2024 Report Posted July 22, 2024 (edited) 23 hours ago, User said: The President already has all the power of the executive under him. It is no dictatorship, we have 3 parts of government, checks and balances. You are the one pushing for this unelected bureaucratic dictatorship. Republicans seem intent on getting rid of your checks and balances. You are about concentrating power under one person, not democracy. You complain about weaponizing the civil service and judiciary but want to make it easier. Edited July 22, 2024 by Aristides Quote
User Posted July 22, 2024 Report Posted July 22, 2024 12 minutes ago, Aristides said: Republicans seem intent on getting rid of your checks and balances. You are about concentrating power under one person, not democracy. How so? Be specific. What are Republicans doing to get rid of checks and balances. What are they doing ton concentrate power opposed to democracy? 13 minutes ago, Aristides said: You complain about weaponizing the civil service and judiciary but want to make it easier. No, I complain about weaponizing the DOJ. It is already being done now. The Civil service is an unaccountable bureaucracy doing what it wants. Quote
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