Constituents in/around the NRC

[exPS]

There are 11 (3 in Quebec and 8 in Ontario) but incredibly 10 of them are Liberal. 

Now why would that be? Public Servants afraid of having their positions cut?

Demographic Snapshot of Canada’s Public Service, 2022

Number of employees
335,957 active employees (282,980 in 2010)
Represents 0.86% of the Canadian population (0.84% in 2010)

But not all in the "Canadian population" are working so that 0.86% is actually much higher in the "working force". Plus talk about an increase of 18.7% increase. Your tax dollars hard at work. LOL

[ExFlyer]

Boo Hoo. You got punted out so you are no longer on the gravy train and are pissed LOL

"The federal public service comprised 0.86% of the Canadian population in 2022. Over the last 10 years, the size of the federal public service in relation to the Canadian population fluctuated but it now represents a greater proportion of the Canadian population than in 2010 when it represented 0.84%. "

So the PS went up .02% over a 12 year period and population went up over 6 million.

Horror  LOL

[I am Groot]

1 hour ago, ExFlyer said:

Boo Hoo. You got punted out so you are no longer on the gravy train and are pissed LOL

"The federal public service comprised 0.86% of the Canadian population in 2022. Over the last 10 years, the size of the federal public service in relation to the Canadian population fluctuated but it now represents a greater proportion of the Canadian population than in 2010 when it represented 0.84%. "

So the PS went up .02% over a 12 year period and population went up over 6 million.

Horror  LOL

The public service has grown by 40% since Trudeau took over. Despite his massive importation of third-world people, the population has not grown by nearly that much.

5 hours ago, exPS said:

There are 11 (3 in Quebec and 8 in Ontario) but incredibly 10 of them are Liberal. 

Now why would that be? Public Servants afraid of having their positions cut?

Wouldn't you be?

[ExFlyer]

9 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

The public service has grown by 40% since Trudeau took over. Despite his massive importation of third-world people, the population has not grown by nearly that much.

Wouldn't you be?

Once again.

From the OP's link:

"the number of federal public servants increased from 282,980 to 335,957 (an increase of 18.7%)" Since 2010

"The federal public service comprised 0.86% of the Canadian population in 2022. Over the last 10 years, the size of the federal public service in relation to the Canadian population fluctuated but it now represents a greater proportion of the Canadian population than in 2010 when it represented 0.84%. "

A .02% increase in 12 years. 6 million population increase in those 12 years.

Trudeau was not in office in 2010.

Lots of good info in the OP's link.

Edited June 27, 2024 by ExFlyer

[taxme]

6 hours ago, exPS said:

There are 11 (3 in Quebec and 8 in Ontario) but incredibly 10 of them are Liberal. 

Now why would that be? Public Servants afraid of having their positions cut?

Demographic Snapshot of Canada’s Public Service, 2022

Number of employees
335,957 active employees (282,980 in 2010)
Represents 0.86% of the Canadian population (0.84% in 2010)

But not all in the "Canadian population" are working so that 0.86% is actually much higher in the "working force". Plus talk about an increase of 18.7% increase. Your tax dollars hard at work. LOL

The problem is that we have way too much bureaucracy in Canada. Canada pretty much has double the amount of ministers with portfolios then what they have in America. Half of the public employees jobs should be cut to try and save the Canadian taxpayers billions of tax dollars. Even then there will still be way too many public employees.

It looks to me like the more immigrants that are allowed to immigrate to Canada, plus refugees, the bureaucracy has to get a lot bigger to look after them all. Canada is just plain swamped with way too many immigrants and bureaucracies for we the people to handle. Billions of our tax dollars being blown and all for nothing. Big government "IS" the bloody problem. Just saying. 

[ExFlyer]

14 hours ago, taxme said:

The problem is that we have way too much bureaucracy in Canada. Canada pretty much has double the amount of ministers with portfolios then what they have in America. Half of the public employees jobs should be cut to try and save the Canadian taxpayers billions of tax dollars. Even then there will still be way too many public employees.

It looks to me like the more immigrants that are allowed to immigrate to Canada, plus refugees, the bureaucracy has to get a lot bigger to look after them all. Canada is just plain swamped with way too many immigrants and bureaucracies for we the people to handle. Billions of our tax dollars being blown and all for nothing. Big government "IS" the bloody problem. Just saying. 

"the number of federal public servants increased from 282,980 to 335,957 (an increase of 18.7%)" Since 2010

"The federal public service comprised 0.86% of the Canadian population in 2022. Over the last 10 years, the size of the federal public service in relation to the Canadian population fluctuated but it now represents a greater proportion of the Canadian population than in 2010 when it represented 0.84%. "

A .02% increase in 12 years in relation to the population.  There was 6 million population increase in those 12 years."

And that does not even include the huge amount of refugees and immigrants from 2022 to now.

Oh and the US president (thy appoint secretariat (ministers) has 15 top secretaries and then ther are 26 cabinet members as well (under the vice president).

Edited June 28, 2024 by ExFlyer

[taxme]

7 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

"the number of federal public servants increased from 282,980 to 335,957 (an increase of 18.7%)" Since 2010

"The federal public service comprised 0.86% of the Canadian population in 2022. Over the last 10 years, the size of the federal public service in relation to the Canadian population fluctuated but it now represents a greater proportion of the Canadian population than in 2010 when it represented 0.84%. "

A .02% increase in 12 years in relation to the population.  There was 6 million population increase in those 12 years."

And that does not even include the huge amount of refugees and immigrants from 2022 to now.

Oh and the US president (thy appoint secretariat (ministers) has 15 top secretaries and then ther are 26 cabinet members as well (under the vice president).

The last i checked, there were well over approx 150 or more ministers and parliamentary secretaries in the Marxist dictators cabinet and government. All just sucking off the taxpayers teats. A bunch of useless arse holes. 😁

[I am Groot]

22 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

Once again.

From the OP's link:

"the number of federal public servants increased from 282,980 to 335,957 (an increase of 18.7%)" Since 2010

It increased by 40% since 2015. That is the metric that counts. And that doesn't even count the dramatic increase in consultants.

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/trudeau-government-increased-federal-employees-since-2015

Edited June 28, 2024 by I am Groot

[ExFlyer]

17 hours ago, taxme said:

The last i checked, there were well over approx 150 or more ministers and parliamentary secretaries in the Marxist dictators cabinet and government. All just sucking off the taxpayers teats. A bunch of useless arse holes. 😁

Check again LOL

You lose again LOL

[ExFlyer]

16 hours ago, I am Groot said:

It increased by 40% since 2015. That is the metric that counts. And that doesn't even count the dramatic increase in consultants.

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/trudeau-government-increased-federal-employees-since-2015

You fail to get that while there may have been 40K hired, you do not take into consideration how many left, retired or were made redundant and were replaced by new hires.

The fact from the link is that there are only .02% more not than there were in 2010.

Consultants were not or are not part of this discussion. Numbers of pubic servants is. The number of consultants and contractions changes from month to month and year to year.

Again, the OP posted the lkink

https://www.canada.ca/en/treasury-board-secretariat/services/innovation/human-resources-statistics/demographic-snapshot-federal-public-service-2022.html

"Between the 2015-16 and 2021-22 fiscal years, about 4.5 per cent of full-time federal public service employees left the government, with departure rates ranging from 3.6 to 5.3 per cent. In 2022, the size of the federal public service was 335,957, and there were about 15,118 (4.5 per cent) employees departures"

https://ottawacitizen.com/news/loss-of-5000-public-servants-to-attrition-a-drop-in-the-bucket-says-pbo

[I am Groot]

6 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

You fail to get that while there may have been 40K hired, you do not take into consideration how many left, retired or were made redundant and were replaced by new hires.

It is not 40k who were hired. The PS increased by 40%.

 

[ExFlyer]

8 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

It is not 40k who were hired. The PS increased by 40%.

 

Did you not read the actual statistics???

The amount of public servants in 2022 were .02% higher than in 2010.  And , the population increasing by over 6 million.

.02% increase in 12 years. To service an additional 6 million people......

https://www.canada.ca/en/treasury-board-secretariat/services/innovation/human-resources-statistics/demographic-snapshot-federal-public-service-2022.html

 

[I am Groot]

On 6/29/2024 at 4:28 PM, ExFlyer said:

Did you not read the actual statistics???

I don't know how many different ways to point out that the measure used is inadequate to understanding the growth of the public service. But I will point out that the baseline year chosen was deliberate since it was as the Conservatives were reducing the size of the public service. 

In 2015 when Trudeau took over there were 257k public servants
There are now 357k public servants

Here's the official statistics.

https://www.canada.ca/en/treasury-board-secretariat/services/innovation/human-resources-statistics/population-federal-public-service.html

[ExFlyer]

On 6/27/2024 at 11:43 AM, exPS said:

There are 11 (3 in Quebec and 8 in Ontario) but incredibly 10 of them are Liberal. 

Now why would that be? Public Servants afraid of having their positions cut?

Demographic Snapshot of Canada’s Public Service, 2022

Number of employees
335,957 active employees (282,980 in 2010)
Represents 0.86% of the Canadian population (0.84% in 2010)

But not all in the "Canadian population" are working so that 0.86% is actually much higher in the "working force". Plus talk about an increase of 18.7% increase. Your tax dollars hard at work. LOL

Perspective:

Between 2010 and 2022:

• the population of Canada grew from approximately 33.9 million to 39.3 million (an increase of 15.9%)^{Footnote 5}; and
• the number of federal public servants increased from 282,980 to 335,957 (an increase of 18.7%).^{Footnote 6}

The federal public service comprised 0.86% of the Canadian population in 2022. Over the last 10 years, the size of the federal public service in relation to the Canadian population fluctuated but it now represents a greater proportion of the Canadian population than in 2010 when it represented 0.84%.

Indeterminate hiring has been on the rise since the 2012 to 2013 fiscal year. There was a decline in indeterminate hires between the 2019 to 2020 fiscal year and the 2020 to 2021 fiscal year, however it has since risen. New indeterminate hiring in the core public administration increased by 32.7%, from 16,528 in the 2020 to 2021 fiscal year to 21,925 in the 2021 to 2022 fiscal year.

Retirements accounted for 71.3% of departures while resignations accounted for 15.2% in the 2021 to 2022 fiscal year. Additionally, as shown in Figure 10, in the 2021 to 2022 fiscal year, the federal public service departure rates for retirements, resignations and all other specified reasons were 3.2%, 0.7%, and 0.6%, respectively.

Since the 2012 to 2013 and the 2013 to 2014 period, where the number of departures from the federal public service increased in response to budget reductions, there has been a steady decrease of departures from the federal public service workforce up until the 2020 to 2021 fiscal year. Between the 2020 to 2021 fiscal year and the 2021 to 2022 fiscal year, the number of departures increased by 30.6%. This jump is mostly likely due to employees delaying their retirement until after the pandemic.

[taxme]

On 6/29/2024 at 5:58 AM, ExFlyer said:

Check again LOL

You lose again LOL

Nah. That is just something telling you in your pea brain sized leftist head that you hope does happen. I never lose, especially to losers like you. 🤡

Edited July 1, 2024 by taxme

[ExFlyer]

3 hours ago, taxme said:

Nah. That is just something telling you in your pea brain sized leftist head that you hope does happen. I never lose, especially to losers like you. 🤡

Your feeble attempt at insult only tells me you have no intelligent argument so...the pea sized brain is in your head LOL

Oh and I used to respect you but you are becoming a confux clone and if you want to be a loser like him, you are doing a terrific emulation.

[blackbird]

On 6/29/2024 at 1:28 PM, ExFlyer said:

The amount of public servants in 2022 were .02% higher than in 2010. 

Really?  That is not what can be commonly found by a simple search.

"According to the Public Service Commission of Canada, the size of the federal public service reached 274,219 employees in 2022/23—an increase of 40.4 per cent since 2014/15. "

fraserinstitute.org

"Trudeau government increased federal employees 40% since election in 2015"

Government hired over 98,000 new federal workers since 2015 | National Post

[taxme]

On 7/1/2024 at 6:56 PM, blackbird said:

Really?  That is not what can be commonly found by a simple search.

"According to the Public Service Commission of Canada, the size of the federal public service reached 274,219 employees in 2022/23—an increase of 40.4 per cent since 2014/15. "

fraserinstitute.org

"Trudeau government increased federal employees 40% since election in 2015"

Government hired over 98,000 new federal workers since 2015 | National Post

And no doubt that most of those new government jobs went to the hundreds of thousands of new immigrants and legal and illegal refugees. I would like the know as to how many whites or non-whites were given those jobs because it appears to me that there are more non-whites being hired then white people being hired in government jobs. Just saying.  

[blackbird]

15 minutes ago, taxme said:

And no doubt that most of those new government jobs went to the hundreds of thousands of new immigrants and legal and illegal refugees. I would like the know as to how many whites or non-whites were given those jobs because it appears to me that there are more non-whites being hired then white people being hired in government jobs. Just saying.  

One of the problems is people who can't speak much English are being hired into all kinds of jobs.  It is crazy to put people who can hardly speak a few words of English in jobs where they have to deal with the public.  They should be required to take a course and learn to speak English without such a bad accent.  They can hardly pronounce any English words in an understandable way.   Several times when I tried to phone the Walmart support number I got somebody who can't speak English.  I couldn't believe what happened trying to get them to understand the problem. I think what we have to do is learn to speak east Indian and other foreign languages now.

[taxme]

8 minutes ago, blackbird said:

One of the problems is people who can't speak much English are being hired into all kinds of jobs.  It is crazy to put people who can hardly speak a few words of English in jobs where they have to deal with the public.  They should be required to take a course and learn to speak English without such a bad accent.  They can hardly pronounce any English words in an understandable way.   Several times when I tried to phone the Walmart support number I got somebody who can't speak English.  I couldn't believe what happened trying to get them to understand the problem. I think what we have to do is learn to speak east Indian and other foreign languages now.

I know. White people must pretty much adapt and learn their foreign born ways of life and culture and language and white people to give up their own white culture and language just to appear as to not look racist and show more of being inclusive. 

The East Indians here in BC have and still are taking over just about every business in BC that they can get their hands on.  Another few more years and every business in BC will be pretty much owned by East Indians. How are they able to do this is a very good question indeed that needs answering. How much money do those people have when they immigrate to Canada? 

I just recently got back from a trip to Newfoundland, and i already noticed that East Indians are becoming quite prevalent there and are starting to take over many businesses like they have done here. I am not knocking them for what they are doing, but this is starting to get quite serious here. Will all white people all end up working for those people? It sure looks like these days. Just my opinion. 

[I am Groot]

On 7/1/2024 at 6:51 PM, ExFlyer said:

Your feeble attempt at insult only tells me you have no intelligent argument so...the pea sized brain is in your head LOL

Has it not occurred to you that the smaller size of the public service after 2010 and prior to Trudeau's being elected was in large part due to the computerization of a number of tasks, thus requiring fewer employees? The explosion in the ranks of the public service under Trudeau has also been accompanied by a large increase in outsourcing jobs to contracted companies, consultants and employees 

[taxme]

On 7/18/2024 at 2:35 PM, I am Groot said:

Has it not occurred to you that the smaller size of the public service after 2010 and prior to Trudeau's being elected was in large part due to the computerization of a number of tasks, thus requiring fewer employees? The explosion in the ranks of the public service under Trudeau has also been accompanied by a large increase in outsourcing jobs to contracted companies, consultants and employees 

We have a Marxist douche bag running and ruining and wrecking this once great country. Sadly, this loser has not yet finished with trying to destroy Canada and Canadians lives. Another year and a half of this loser, and we may see Canada become the another Titanic like disaster. 😏

[ExFlyer]

On 7/19/2024 at 7:51 PM, taxme said:

We have a Marxist douche bag running and ruining and wrecking this once great country. Sadly, this loser has not yet finished with trying to destroy Canada and Canadians lives. Another year and a half of this loser, and we may see Canada become the another Titanic like disaster. 😏

it is always your way or the highway.

Your opinion is as valid as anyone elses.

Once again

Perspective:

Some facts for actions Between 2010 and 2022:

• the population of Canada grew from approximately 33.9 million to 39.3 million (an increase of 15.9%)^{Footnote 5}; and
• the number of federal public servants increased from 282,980 to 335,957 (an increase of 18.7%).^{Footnote 6}

The federal public service comprised 0.86% of the Canadian population in 2022. Over the last 10 years, the size of the federal public service in relation to the Canadian population fluctuated but it now represents a greater proportion of the Canadian population than in 2010 when it represented 0.84%.

Indeterminate hiring has been on the rise since the 2012 to 2013 fiscal year. There was a decline in indeterminate hires between the 2019 to 2020 fiscal year and the 2020 to 2021 fiscal year, however it has since risen. New indeterminate hiring in the core public administration increased by 32.7%, from 16,528 in the 2020 to 2021 fiscal year to 21,925 in the 2021 to 2022 fiscal year.

Retirements accounted for 71.3% of departures while resignations accounted for 15.2% in the 2021 to 2022 fiscal year. Additionally, as shown in Figure 10, in the 2021 to 2022 fiscal year, the federal public service departure rates for retirements, resignations and all other specified reasons were 3.2%, 0.7%, and 0.6%, respectively.

Since the 2012 to 2013 and the 2013 to 2014 period, where the number of departures from the federal public service increased in response to budget reductions, there has been a steady decrease of departures from the federal public service workforce up until the 2020 to 2021 fiscal year. Between the 2020 to 2021 fiscal year and the 2021 to 2022 fiscal year, the number of departures increased by 30.6%. This jump is mostly likely due to employees delaying their retirement until after the pandemic.

[taxme]

On 7/21/2024 at 5:15 AM, ExFlyer said:

it is always your way or the highway.

Your opinion is as valid as anyone elses.

Once again

Perspective:

Some facts for actions Between 2010 and 2022:

• the population of Canada grew from approximately 33.9 million to 39.3 million (an increase of 15.9%)^{Footnote 5}; and
• the number of federal public servants increased from 282,980 to 335,957 (an increase of 18.7%).^{Footnote 6}

The federal public service comprised 0.86% of the Canadian population in 2022. Over the last 10 years, the size of the federal public service in relation to the Canadian population fluctuated but it now represents a greater proportion of the Canadian population than in 2010 when it represented 0.84%.

Indeterminate hiring has been on the rise since the 2012 to 2013 fiscal year. There was a decline in indeterminate hires between the 2019 to 2020 fiscal year and the 2020 to 2021 fiscal year, however it has since risen. New indeterminate hiring in the core public administration increased by 32.7%, from 16,528 in the 2020 to 2021 fiscal year to 21,925 in the 2021 to 2022 fiscal year.

Retirements accounted for 71.3% of departures while resignations accounted for 15.2% in the 2021 to 2022 fiscal year. Additionally, as shown in Figure 10, in the 2021 to 2022 fiscal year, the federal public service departure rates for retirements, resignations and all other specified reasons were 3.2%, 0.7%, and 0.6%, respectively.

Since the 2012 to 2013 and the 2013 to 2014 period, where the number of departures from the federal public service increased in response to budget reductions, there has been a steady decrease of departures from the federal public service workforce up until the 2020 to 2021 fiscal year. Between the 2020 to 2021 fiscal year and the 2021 to 2022 fiscal year, the number of departures increased by 30.6%. This jump is mostly likely due to employees delaying their retirement until after the pandemic.

If a country like Canada continues to increase it's massive legal/illegal immigration by the hundreds of thousands every year, it is not hard to figure out that there will be a toll on our medical and social services, the environment, housing and infrastructure. I thought that the game plan was to cut back on carbon emissions and not increase them? 

Our population now stands at 41 million people and is still growing. Yup, it sure looks like our useless lefty liberal politicians know what they are doing alright when it comes to fighting climate change. Just keep adding more and more immigrants to the Canadian population pool. That should help fight climate change. 😁

[exPS]

The other week I tried to get a hold of the CRA and this not being tax season, you would think I had a good chance of getting through, especially with over 59,000 employees there. I finally got their phone number as it is not listed on their web side.

After 31 minutes on hold, I hung up.

They are probably working so very hard from home, walking their dog or doing the laundry. The Public Service, grossly overpaid and underworked.