Hodad Posted May 17 Report Share Posted May 17 4 minutes ago, User said: He is no more subverting than what you support with sanctuary cities. Why they have the policy is irrelevant to the fact that the law is being subverted. They are aiding people in breaking the law. Yes, much of it is political spite. No, why they have the policy is exactly why we have a federal system. It is their job and their responsibility to act to the benefit of their constituency. Local policies for local governance. For local police, that means NOT alienating a population that exists in their community. They didn't cause the population to exist, but it is their responsibility to deal with it in the manner that works best for the community. That's not a subversion of the law. Again, it's literally why our constitution was conceived as it is. And, as expected, you're projecting. The politics of spite may be the primary driver of MAGA politics, but the rest of us are just interested in meeting challenges and build a better future. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User Posted May 17 Report Share Posted May 17 11 minutes ago, Hodad said: No, why they have the policy is exactly why we have a federal system. It is their job and their responsibility to act to the benefit of their constituency. Local policies for local governance. For local police, that means NOT alienating a population that exists in their community. They didn't cause the population to exist, but it is their responsibility to deal with it in the manner that works best for the community. That's not a subversion of the law. Again, it's literally why our constitution was conceived as it is. And, as expected, you're projecting. The politics of spite may be the primary driver of MAGA politics, but the rest of us are just interested in meeting challenges and build a better future. No, you are merely arguing that their why is a "just" why, it is still subverting the law. Yes, just as our Constitution gives the President pardon authority.... Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodad Posted May 17 Report Share Posted May 17 (edited) 24 minutes ago, User said: No, you are merely arguing that their why is a "just" why, it is still subverting the law. Yes, just as our Constitution gives the President pardon authority.... Bullshit. They can't be "subverting" a law that isn't even relevant to their jurisdiction. Name the law. Name the jurisdiction. And the SCOTUS has spilled ink explaining the purpose of the pardon power. Trump (though not alone) clearly has and would again use that power for other purposes. You can't even be serious. The framers sat down and drafted a constitution specifically to separate powers and responsibilities to allow local governance to foster local interests. They did not sit down and draft pardon powers with the expectation that the POTUS would be unethical enough to use it to do himself legal and political favors. You know full well that that is not what Madison and Hamilton had in mind. That kind of behavior was almost unthinkable to those idealists. Edited May 17 by Hodad 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted May 17 Author Report Share Posted May 17 4 hours ago, Nationalist said: Lol...he worked for Boeing. Is anyone surprised? Someone had to straighten their contractors out. Do you know that Boeing Satellite Systems does not build the jets? LMAO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted May 17 Author Report Share Posted May 17 3 hours ago, Fluffypants said: Remember he is a super tall super genius that all the girls love. ^He is a LIAR. 3 hours ago, Fluffypants said: He has all this time yet he can't be bothered to look things up that are common knowledge of anyone with a modicum political and economic knowledge and demands proof and when he gets it he either cherry picks or complains about the source. ^Completely ignorant about the rules of DEBATE. It is YOUR JOB to sell YOUR IDEAS. If you FAIL, you LOSE. It's easy to post YOUR OPINION and just as easy to say YOU'RE WRONG. It's also easy to post a naked link that doesn't point to ANYTHING that backs YOUR OPINION. With experience you'll learn that chasing naked links is as WASTE OF TIME. 2 hours ago, Nationalist said: Meh...don't forget that the air is much more thin at the elevation of his head so...ya...there's that... But you're in Toronto, right? The air is MUCH THINNER there than at the COAST where I live. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted May 17 Author Report Share Posted May 17 1 hour ago, User said: And to the point here... you cheer on the subversion of law this way... so don't complain when Trump uses his legal authority to pardon people. And you should NOT CELEBRATE CRIMINALS getting a PASS on accountability for their CRIMES. YOU will just encourage CRIMINALS and CRIME. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted May 17 Author Report Share Posted May 17 18 hours ago, gatomontes99 said: Anyone else notice that all the allegations of subverting the law were all how Trump would use the legal avenues to achieve desired goals? 13 hours ago, robosmith said: John Eastman admitted that the schemes he was advocating to force a contingent election would NOT PASS MUSTER with the SCOTUS. 1 hour ago, gatomontes99 said: That's not what we were talking about and you should know because you started this topic. It's about what you called "legal avenues" in YOUR POST ABOVE. They were ONLY superficially "legal," and admitted as such by the dishonest guy proposing them. Duh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted May 17 Report Share Posted May 17 6 minutes ago, robosmith said: But you're in Toronto, right? The air is MUCH THINNER there than at the COAST where I live. LOL...My Gawd but you're a silly human. 3 minutes ago, robosmith said: And you should NOT CELEBRATE CRIMINALS getting a PASS on accountability for their CRIMES. YOU will just encourage CRIMINALS and CRIME. You mean like letting illegals who assault cops out on bail or cutting deals with them? Or like letting gangs shoplift so much that businesses have to close? How about "mostly peaceful protests"? Like that perhaps? Not only are you a silly human...but your a fcking silly hypocrite. But...If Trump wins, he will probably let all those political prisoners out with pardons...as the law allows. Many will be pleased by this act of fairness...and silly fcks like you will go... Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted May 17 Author Report Share Posted May 17 (edited) 2 hours ago, User said: I hope his rhetoric is mostly hyperbole, and he will focus his pardons on only the misdemeanor cases and the ones where the DOJ has vindictively gone after people for what is trespassing. And he leaves the violent people in prison. The "misdemeanor cases" were likely NEVER IN PRISON. And "vindictively" is ONLY your SPECULATION. When you break into a building that is CLOSED, to threaten people working there, that is NOT just "trespassing." 1 hour ago, User said: Glad you agree then. Trump isn't subverting anything either. Federal LEO do not have the OPTION of enforcing Federal law. That is their JOB. Edited May 17 by robosmith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted May 17 Author Report Share Posted May 17 53 minutes ago, Fluffypants said: What they forget is that it wasn't until Trump became elected that sanctuary cities and states became widespread because they didn't want him to enforce the law. Cities being "sanctuary" does not stop Trump's Federal LEO from enforcing Federal law. Duh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted May 17 Author Report Share Posted May 17 34 minutes ago, User said: No, you are merely arguing that their why is a "just" why, it is still subverting the law. Yes, just as our Constitution gives the President pardon authority.... Having the authority does NOT mean it cannot be abused for improper purposes. The POTUS takes an OATH to faithfully execute the laws. For example, that does NOT permit SELLING PARDONS to enrich himself nor his campaign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted May 17 Author Report Share Posted May 17 8 minutes ago, Nationalist said: LOL...My Gawd but you're a silly human. I'm not BANKRUPT like YOU. 8 minutes ago, Nationalist said: You mean like letting illegals who assault cops out on bail or cutting deals with them? Or like letting gangs shoplift so much that businesses have to close? How about "mostly peaceful protests"? Like that perhaps? Not only are you a silly human...but your a fcking silly hypocrite. But...If Trump wins, he will probably let all those political prisoners out with pardons...as the law allows. Many will be pleased by this act of fairness...and silly fcks like you will go... Thanks for demonstrating YOU have NO RESPECT for ENFORCING the law. YOU, like the HOUSE REPUBLICONS at Trump's trial, MAKE A MOCKERY of LAW ENFORCEMENT and JUDICIAL PROCESS purely for your partisan political HACKERY. As for your OTHER BULLSHIT, that has NOTHING TO DO with ME, NOR what I post HERE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted May 17 Report Share Posted May 17 17 minutes ago, robosmith said: I'm not BANKRUPT like YOU. Thanks for demonstrating YOU have NO RESPECT for ENFORCING the law. YOU, like the HOUSE REPUBLICONS at Trump's trial, MAKE A MOCKERY of LAW ENFORCEMENT and JUDICIAL PROCESS purely for your partisan political HACKERY. As for your OTHER BULLSHIT, that has NOTHING TO DO with ME, NOR what I post HERE. LOL...look who's whining again. The teacher of lawfare. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted May 17 Author Report Share Posted May 17 14 minutes ago, Nationalist said: LOL...look who's whining again. The teacher of lawfare. That would be you, whining about the LAW BEING ENFORCED. And trying to claim it should NOT be enforced and convicted criminals should be freed. We know you would NOT DO THAT if someone broke down YOUR front door (and survived). Cause you're just a partisan political HACK. Yes, you are "dear." NOT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted May 17 Report Share Posted May 17 4 hours ago, robosmith said: That would be you, whining about the LAW BEING ENFORCED. And trying to claim it should NOT be enforced and convicted criminals should be freed. We know you would NOT DO THAT if someone broke down YOUR front door (and survived). Cause you're just a partisan political HACK. Yes, you are "dear." NOT. Criminals? Like Michael Byrd? That brave soul who shot an unarmed woman to death? Those who are political prisoners will be pardoned. You will scream. I will relish your anguish. You are a hypocrite. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gatomontes99 Posted May 18 Report Share Posted May 18 9 hours ago, robosmith said: It's about what you called "legal avenues" in YOUR POST ABOVE. They were ONLY superficially "legal," and admitted as such by the dishonest guy proposing them. Duh Superficially legal? Pardon power comes straight from the COTUS. How in the hell is that superficial? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User Posted May 18 Report Share Posted May 18 13 hours ago, Hodad said: Bullshit. They can't be "subverting" a law that isn't even relevant to their jurisdiction. Name the law. Name the jurisdiction. So, now you are playing some game in which, even though they are subverting the law because it is not their law, that doesn't count. No, that is still subverting the law. You are just excusing it. Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User Posted May 18 Report Share Posted May 18 13 hours ago, robosmith said: And you should NOT CELEBRATE CRIMINALS getting a PASS on accountability for their CRIMES. YOU will just encourage CRIMINALS and CRIME. Wow, where was this version of robosmith last week when the other version of robosmith was cheering on protestors for Hamas breaking the law? Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted May 18 Author Report Share Posted May 18 7 hours ago, Nationalist said: Criminals? Like Michael Byrd? That brave soul who shot an unarmed woman to death? Those who are political prisoners will be pardoned. You will scream. I will relish your anguish. You are a hypocrite. You are DELUSIONAL AND a HYPOCRITE. You would shoot anyone who broke down YOUR DOOR, but denigrate the LEO who protected Congressional members from an armed mob just because it was LED by a woman that the armed mob CHOSE to be the tip of the spear. You are also a FOOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted May 18 Author Report Share Posted May 18 3 hours ago, gatomontes99 said: Superficially legal? Pardon power comes straight from the COTUS. How in the hell is that superficial? I was referring to what you called "legal avenues" in YOUR POST ABOVE. AKA, the methods proposed by John Eastman to overturn the election. WTH are you talking about NOW? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted May 18 Author Report Share Posted May 18 9 minutes ago, User said: So, now you are playing some game in which, even though they are subverting the law because it is not their law, that doesn't count. No, that is still subverting the law. You are just excusing it. Local LEO have NO responsibility to enforce Federal law no matter how much YOU IMAGINE THEY DO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User Posted May 18 Report Share Posted May 18 Just now, robosmith said: Local LEO have NO responsibility to enforce Federal law no matter how much YOU IMAGINE THEY DO. No... but when they actively work against it, that is the very definition of subverting it. You know... when you support letting all those illegal immigrants go that end up raping and murdering American citizens... that is what you are supporting. Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted May 18 Author Report Share Posted May 18 10 minutes ago, User said: Wow, where was this version of robosmith last week when the other version of robosmith was cheering on protestors for Hamas breaking the law? I didn't say ANYTHING about Hamas NOT BEING ACCOUNTABLE for their CRIMES. That is YOU about the Jan 6th CRIMINALS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted May 18 Author Report Share Posted May 18 Just now, User said: No... but when they actively work against it, that is the very definition of subverting it. No one is actively working against the enforcement of Federal law by Federal LEO. Not aiding is not actively working against. Just now, User said: You know... when you support letting all those illegal immigrants go that end up raping and murdering American citizens... that is what you are supporting. I don't support ANYTHING at the border. I have NO SAY about what happens there. Asylum application is required to be permitted by LAW and adjudicated by JUDGES. You really are completely ignorant; probably cause all you see is FOS LIES. 🤮 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User Posted May 18 Report Share Posted May 18 5 minutes ago, robosmith said: I didn't say ANYTHING about Hamas NOT BEING ACCOUNTABLE for their CRIMES. That is YOU about the Jan 6th CRIMINALS. I said "protestors for Hamas" You spent last week defending their lawlessness, did you not? Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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