tml12 Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 The optics of the Emerson crossing are bad. However, Harper made a conscious choice that having a representative for Vancouver at the cabinet table would outweigh the negative optics in the medium to long-term. He just might be correct. Call Harper's actions what you will. But if you want to be fair, they weren't corrupt. To be fair you are right you never embraced the Liberals.But why not hope the CPC is less corrupt? Actually reading the Montreal Gazette article today I think I am starting to change my mind a bit. He now has official Vancouver and Montreal reps, as well as reps from close enough to downtown Toronto (in the GTA) to understand that district. If it turns out that he is better able to represent the "Big Three" because of this, then maybe it is for the better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biblio Bibuli Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 Emerson suggested that immigrants needed better language training so they could shed their accents (CP Wire, June 10, 2004). Well, it's too late for Henry Kissinger who, although he came to America at the age of 14, NEVER got the training that Emerson's talking about, and thus NEVER lost his accent. He is too old now. But what about that guy from 'Cauli-fornia', Arnold Schwarzenegger? HE could use some of that training Emerson's talking about. He is still young. What an idiot ... tsk tsk tsk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
na85 Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 This whole issue is the result of our partisan,party-based, electoral system where you vote for the party, not your the individual who is running.The whole thing stinks. Do away with all the parties I say. Italy has pretty much proved that having no parties is a bad call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 Italy has pretty much proved that having no parties is a bad call. What exactly are you referring to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southerncomfort Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 I'm surprised. I worked my buns off during the election and now they do this? I understand about the representation thing, but dammit - but perception wise, its a bad move . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoop Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 Lots of us worked hard for the CPC during the election. I don't really know how they betrayed anybody who volunteered for the party. Agreed that it is a bad move, perception-wise. I'm surprised. I worked my buns off during the election and now they do this? I understand about the representation thing, but dammit - but perception wise, its a bad move . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biblio Bibuli Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose. The same old way? Harper? NO WAY! Look: http://www.canada.com/reginaleaderpost/sto...f6aad19&k=72543 """Two of Canada's most respected political historians say David Emerson's backflip into the Conservative cabinet is an unprecedented show of arrogance and a grave error by Prime Minister Stephen Harper. "I think it's outrageous that a man should run for one party and express himself in partisan terms, and then in a week when nothing has changed except his personal opportunity, he should change parties," said Blair Neatby, an eminent Ottawa historian and biographer of two Canadian prime ministers. In separate interviews on Tuesday, each predicted Harper would pay for the Emerson affair at the polls. "It's difficult to imagine anything so arrogant," Neatby said. "I don't think voters will forget. I don't think (Harper) judged the pros and cons sufficiently." He said Harper has squandered the credibility -- on ethics, honesty and clean politics -- that got him elected.""" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justcrowing Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 Nawh, the Liberals are just plain jealous the Consevatives snagged their top dog!! Currently there is no law in place that floor crossing is illegal and until there is such a law - fair dinkum!! Liberals did it to the Conservatives and would continue to do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no1important Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 Emerson is just an opportunist, that riding has not voted Tory since 1958. The tory finished a very distant third in this last election. Emerson crossed before government was even sworn in, mighty suspicious if you ask me. The tories were going to clean up government yadda yadda yadda and when Stronach crossed the tories were screaming bloody murder, but now it is ok? wtf? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbie Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 Emerson is just an opportunist, that riding has not voted Tory since 1958. The tory finished a very distant third in this last election. Emerson crossed before government was even sworn in, mighty suspicious if you ask me.The tories were going to clean up government yadda yadda yadda and when Stronach crossed the tories were screaming bloody murder, but now it is ok? wtf? When the Liberals do it is criminal don't you know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkman Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 This all just boils down to bad timing. If Emerson had crossed six months from now, only the die hards would have their knickers in a twist. It was bad timing when Belinda did it as well, a day or two before a vote to down the government. But this is a normal part of Canadian politics, Emerson is an opportunist just like Belinda is, now she's running for the leadership of the liberals after running for the tory leadership, what, 2 years ago? And guess what, after all the knicker twisting in her riding, they voted her back in as a liberal. Emerson may get the same treatment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancouver King Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 His crossing the floor makes slightly more sense if you assume his need for "public service" will be spent before the next election. Good thing as I doubt Emerson will ever get reelected within the boundaries of Vancouver. Crass opportunists like Svend Robinson and David Emerson are not viewed kindly by downtown voters. If he still wants to inflict more "public service" on British Columbians after the current govt falls, the CPC will have to move his egotistical butt to a safe riding out in the valley, ie. Chilliwack or Abbottsford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffrey Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 His crossing the floor makes slightly more sense if you assume his need for "public service" will be spent before the next election. Good thing as I doubt Emerson will ever get reelected within the boundaries of Vancouver. Crass opportunists like Svend Robinson and David Emerson are not viewed kindly by downtown voters. If he still wants to inflict more "public service" on British Columbians after the current govt falls, the CPC will have to move his egotistical butt to a safe riding out in the valley, ie. Chilliwack or Abbottsford. It's going to be lonely out there with no representation VK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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