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About a month ago I started a thread where I noted that there was certain activity that one always associates with an election coming from the liberals. I wondered at the time if an election was imminent. I also noted that as of april 26th the new writings kick in and that will basically give the conservatives five more seats for free.

Now we see justin making announcements from one end of the country to the other spending money like a drunken sailor pretending to care about the issues that are pulling highest for Canadians. He's suddenly giving lectures on how people have got it really rough, and how something has to be done about housing, and how people are struggling. And he's spending money on those issues to try and make it look like he's doing something.

All of this in advance of his April budget which comes out on the 15th. It is a tradition in politics to fight an election on your budget and promise a whole bunch of goodies and then say if the other guy wins they'll all be taken away.

I swear to god it still feels like he is desperately trying to call an election. I think he's hoping to see even a slight bump in the poles or maybe the collapse of the NDP support which he might then be able to steal and if he sees numbers that look in any way shape or form remotely decent where he might win a minority government I think he will pull the trigger immediately.

I don't think he's going to get those numbers but you never know. Does anyone else feel like he's really pushing hard for an election this year?

There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data

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https://www.thestar.com/politics/justin-trudeau-is-getting-impatient-and-it-shows/article_fc3b5ad0-f368-11ee-81e5-eb2980aebe4d.amp.html

Justin Trudeau is getting impatient, and it shows

“It feels a bit like an election campaign,” Matt Galloway, host of CBC Radio’s "The Current," told Trudeau during an interview on Thursday. “You’re zipping across the country here and there, announcing things with big dollar signs attached to them.”

Trudeau replied by quickly rattling off the lines he’s road-testing to get back some voters the Liberals have lost since the heady days of 2015.

“Far too many young people, particularly millennials, and Gen Z, don't feel like the system works for them anymore, even if they have a great job," he said. "They are squeezed on housing, they're squeezed on rent, they can't save up for buying a home, they're pressed on groceries, they're seeing a world where climate change is getting worse and worse. They're worried about their future and government has a role in making sure that there is fairness for them.”

 

That's justin trudeau talking - not Polievre.  That's the liberal leader talking about how horrible things are under his gov't, presumably he's going to try to gaslight people into thinking that somehow he's the solution despite the fact he has been the cause.

Honestly  i think he's trying to make the conditions for an election possible right now

There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data

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Just now, Legato said:

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well for sure that's something that's on his mind - but it's more a thing for the ndp than it is for the libs. Trudeau has his pension already.

I think that this is being driven by something we're not seeing.  I think the party would like him gone but they've got no one to replace him with right now.  I think he's facing a lot of pressure from the party to fix things, and i think he knows that sooner or later Jagger's has to backstab him.

I think he can't step down, but  doesn't want to wait till next year, so he'd like to roll the dice on an election now. If he wins the pressure is off, and if he loses oh well, he doesn't have to be prime minister any more and honestly at this point i think he's ok with that

But the party won't let him go to an election unless there's some reason to believe it won't be a TOTAL disaster. So he's on a whirlwind spending tour trying to beef up support and get his polling numbers up to where he at least might have a shot at a minority gov't with the ndp.

Because remember - if the cpc doesn't have a majority even if they had the most seats if the ndp and libs combined have more then they can form got' instead. So trudeau doesn't have to win the most seats by himself - he just has to hope that the ndp and the libs together have more seats than the cpc even if that STILL leaves them with a minority combined.

There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data

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6 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said:

I think he's just trying to not suck in the polls

He must have some reason to feel more hopeful.

The federal Liberals are narrowing the months-old gap with the Conservative party, with a former 20-percentage point Conservative ballot advantage shrinking to a 12-point lead, according to latest tracking data from Nanos Research.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/trudeau-liberals-narrowing-polling-gap-poilievre-conservatives-lead-declines-to-12-points-nanos-1.6831453

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14 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said:

I think he's just trying to not suck in the polls

Maybe but he's blowing a hell of a lot of poltiical capital to do it.

If he promises all this money and such right now - it gets hard to make any new promises next year before the election. And if he says "We're spendign 1000 billion to fix housing" or whatever and next year housing isn't fixed or on the mend - he's vulnerable as hell in the election.

This seems like it's a little more than just 'i wish our polls were better'.

There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data

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7 minutes ago, eyeball said:

He must have some reason to feel more hopeful.

The federal Liberals are narrowing the months-old gap with the Conservative party, with a former 20-percentage point Conservative ballot advantage shrinking to a 12-point lead, according to latest tracking data from Nanos Research.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/trudeau-liberals-narrowing-polling-gap-poilievre-conservatives-lead-declines-to-12-points-nanos-1.6831453

That's basically within the margins of error tho of the previous polls though.  And it's still a majority gov't for PP.

But perhaps he thinks he can get some momentum going and close that gap enough to make it worth taking a shot.

 

There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data

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