August1991 Posted January 29, 2006 Report Posted January 29, 2006 "So the Canadian public is looking for signs that Harper is an honest leader, and since he's in the spotlight now he will have to be honest and forthright about his activities, whether they be personal or not. Certainly a trip to the hospital is in the public's interest." Bull. Harpers personal medical records are none of my business, or yours. Voters will be the judge of that question, and voters have their own definition of what is or is not their business. That's what it means to lead a public life in a democracy. In simple terms, if Harper tries to keep this confidential, he'll lose votes. Quote
Wilber Posted January 29, 2006 Report Posted January 29, 2006 "So the Canadian public is looking for signs that Harper is an honest leader, and since he's in the spotlight now he will have to be honest and forthright about his activities, whether they be personal or not. Certainly a trip to the hospital is in the public's interest." Bull. Harpers personal medical records are none of my business, or yours. Voters will be the judge of that question, and voters have their own definition of what is or is not their business. That's what it means to lead a public life in a democracy. In simple terms, if Harper tries to keep this confidential, he'll lose votes. Maybe so but it's still none of my business, or yours. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
Boru Posted January 29, 2006 Report Posted January 29, 2006 In my opinion - Harper has never made it a secret he suffered from Asthma. Are some of you saying that a cold accompanied with Asthma requiring an emergency visit to the hospital, that Harper should have taken the time to first phone the media? Unbelievable!! I presume that this kind of thinking, that if he has a diahrrea attack, he should tell the news media about it because Canadians need to know whether it was viral or what did he eat to upset his stomach?? Unreal!! Didn't you hear...Bush is second in command to take over if Harper is out of commission... Earlier today, CBC reported that a CIA plane landed in Ottawa and were apparently talking to Harper about "disappearing for awhile" while the new "transition" process took effect immediately." I bet you at least 65% of the left in Canada would believe that crap too... Right. Another thougthless post from TML. Shock of all shocks. Is it really beyond you to post something constructive? Get a clue. Quote
fixer1 Posted January 29, 2006 Report Posted January 29, 2006 Harper has made it clear that he had asthma as a child and that then does predispose him to be very careful of any lung or chest malady. I know as I also had asthma as a child. I am now 55 and have not had an asthme attack since I was 15, but I did actually ask my doctor to prescribe a couple inhalers a couple summers ago, as air quality was getting bad, and I never want to go thru a sudden attack ever again. This is what I am sure Harper was doing also. Instead of people nattering about the negative things about this, why not look at the positive things he did. First he waited until 10 pm when emergency rooms are less congested. Otaawa General's does get busy after midnight. He was driven to the hospital and yes, while probably seen quicker then most he was still not taken ahead of anyone in immediate danger. He then got a prescription to be filled by his pharmacy. I am sure they gave him some antibiotics immediately to help aleave any congestion. This is exactly the same that any ordinary person gets in our public health care system. For that alone he derves cudos. Now, after a gruelling election and then the push of that pace to get ready to take over the leadership of Canada, would be more then enough to weaken ones own immune system. So to have a chest cold at this time, I am sure is not something anyone can him for. He could have easily had a private doctor come and see him and then all of this would never be given light of day. But he seems to be the only one of the party leaders that still uses the same public system that you and I do. Only the bruised egoes of the other party supporters would try to make more of this and/or try to spin it in a negative way. Shame on you. It seems you are now just part of the problem and not even close to be part of the cure. Oh and by the way, while I support Harper in this it does not mean I give him a pass any where else. I still want to see him now live up to his promises and will hold his feet to the fire if he strays or is too slow in this. But when someone does something right, it should not be used and sun to their discredit. Quote
Concerned Posted January 29, 2006 Report Posted January 29, 2006 Harper has made it clear that he had asthma as a child and that then does predispose him to be very careful of any lung or chest malady. I know as I also had asthma as a child. I am now 55 and have not had an asthme attack since I was 15, but I did actually ask my doctor to prescribe a couple inhalers a couple summers ago, as air quality was getting bad, and I never want to go thru a sudden attack ever again. This is what I am sure Harper was doing also. Instead of people nattering about the negative things about this, why not look at the positive things he did. First he waited until 10 pm when emergency rooms are less congested. Otaawa General's does get busy after midnight. He was driven to the hospital and yes, while probably seen quicker then most he was still not taken ahead of anyone in immediate danger. He then got a prescription to be filled by his pharmacy. I am sure they gave him some antibiotics immediately to help aleave any congestion. This is exactly the same that any ordinary person gets in our public health care system. For that alone he derves cudos. Thanks, this answers my question. The fact that it was 10 at night explains why he couldn't just go see his family doctor. I still think its important for him to be open and forthright with the media since he took a hardline against scandal in his campaign. He has to prove to the Canadian public that he can be trusted more so than his predecessors. There is no defense to that, he's the one that used those tactics so he's the one that has to be answerable, from day one. Quote If everybody agrees with what you have to say, you really aren't saying anything, are you ?
Wilber Posted January 29, 2006 Report Posted January 29, 2006 Harper has made it clear that he had asthma as a child and that then does predispose him to be very careful of any lung or chest malady. I know as I also had asthma as a child. I am now 55 and have not had an asthme attack since I was 15, but I did actually ask my doctor to prescribe a couple inhalers a couple summers ago, as air quality was getting bad, and I never want to go thru a sudden attack ever again. This is what I am sure Harper was doing also. Instead of people nattering about the negative things about this, why not look at the positive things he did. First he waited until 10 pm when emergency rooms are less congested. Otaawa General's does get busy after midnight. He was driven to the hospital and yes, while probably seen quicker then most he was still not taken ahead of anyone in immediate danger. He then got a prescription to be filled by his pharmacy. I am sure they gave him some antibiotics immediately to help aleave any congestion. This is exactly the same that any ordinary person gets in our public health care system. For that alone he derves cudos. Thanks, this answers my question. The fact that it was 10 at night explains why he couldn't just go see his family doctor. I still think its important for him to be open and forthright with the media since he took a hardline against scandal in his campaign. He has to prove to the Canadian public that he can be trusted more so than his predecessors. There is no defense to that, he's the one that used those tactics so he's the one that has to be answerable, from day one. Where is the potential scandal in going to get treatment at a public hospital when you are sick? I really must be missing something here. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
shoop Posted January 29, 2006 Report Posted January 29, 2006 It is simply the sad, sad attempt of the left to start fighting campaign 2008 here and now. This is not a story for any *persuadable/non or conservative voter*. Already out of the news. Again look at the tape of the return from the hospital. There was *one* reporter there. Conveniently from the CBC. No story there. Take a look, even CBC has dropped the story. If this is going to be the left's *evidence* of Harper's lacking in ethics it looks like a majority CPC government next time around. Where is the potential scandal in going to get treatment at a public hospital when you are sick? I really must be missing something here. Quote
Big Blue Machine Posted January 29, 2006 Report Posted January 29, 2006 There's the stupid media's logic about Harper. If he went to the hospital and didn't tell us anything, he must be hiding something. What a bunch of bs. As you as he doesn't have cancer or something, he shouldn't tell us. Quote And as I take man's last step from the surface, for now but we believe not too far into the future. I just like to say what I believe history will record that America's challenge on today has forged man's destiny of tomorrow. And as we leave the surface of Taurus-Littrow, we leave as we came and god willing we shall return with peace and hope for all mankind. Godspeed the crew of Apollo 17. Gene Cernan, the last man on the moon, December 1972.
Concerned Posted January 29, 2006 Report Posted January 29, 2006 Harper has made it clear that he had asthma as a child and that then does predispose him to be very careful of any lung or chest malady. I know as I also had asthma as a child. I am now 55 and have not had an asthme attack since I was 15, but I did actually ask my doctor to prescribe a couple inhalers a couple summers ago, as air quality was getting bad, and I never want to go thru a sudden attack ever again. This is what I am sure Harper was doing also. Instead of people nattering about the negative things about this, why not look at the positive things he did. First he waited until 10 pm when emergency rooms are less congested. Otaawa General's does get busy after midnight. He was driven to the hospital and yes, while probably seen quicker then most he was still not taken ahead of anyone in immediate danger. He then got a prescription to be filled by his pharmacy. I am sure they gave him some antibiotics immediately to help aleave any congestion. This is exactly the same that any ordinary person gets in our public health care system. For that alone he derves cudos. Thanks, this answers my question. The fact that it was 10 at night explains why he couldn't just go see his family doctor. I still think its important for him to be open and forthright with the media since he took a hardline against scandal in his campaign. He has to prove to the Canadian public that he can be trusted more so than his predecessors. There is no defense to that, he's the one that used those tactics so he's the one that has to be answerable, from day one. Where is the potential scandal in going to get treatment at a public hospital when you are sick? I really must be missing something here. I know, its seems most of your posts show you have no real insight to what is going on, as long as its socially RIGHT. The point is that Harper has to be honest and forthright and be very open to show he is not going down the same path as many others have before him. Do you remember a scandal-less government in your lifetime ??? Perhaps mine is too short. Quote If everybody agrees with what you have to say, you really aren't saying anything, are you ?
Wilber Posted January 29, 2006 Report Posted January 29, 2006 Harper has made it clear that he had asthma as a child and that then does predispose him to be very careful of any lung or chest malady. I know as I also had asthma as a child. I am now 55 and have not had an asthme attack since I was 15, but I did actually ask my doctor to prescribe a couple inhalers a couple summers ago, as air quality was getting bad, and I never want to go thru a sudden attack ever again. This is what I am sure Harper was doing also. Instead of people nattering about the negative things about this, why not look at the positive things he did. First he waited until 10 pm when emergency rooms are less congested. Otaawa General's does get busy after midnight. He was driven to the hospital and yes, while probably seen quicker then most he was still not taken ahead of anyone in immediate danger. He then got a prescription to be filled by his pharmacy. I am sure they gave him some antibiotics immediately to help aleave any congestion. This is exactly the same that any ordinary person gets in our public health care system. For that alone he derves cudos. Thanks, this answers my question. The fact that it was 10 at night explains why he couldn't just go see his family doctor. I still think its important for him to be open and forthright with the media since he took a hardline against scandal in his campaign. He has to prove to the Canadian public that he can be trusted more so than his predecessors. There is no defense to that, he's the one that used those tactics so he's the one that has to be answerable, from day one. Where is the potential scandal in going to get treatment at a public hospital when you are sick? I really must be missing something here. I know, its seems most of your posts show you have no real insight to what is going on, as long as its socially RIGHT. The point is that Harper has to be honest and forthright and be very open to show he is not going down the same path as many others have before him. Do you remember a scandal-less government in your lifetime ??? Perhaps mine is too short. What is that supposed to mean? Where is the potential scandal in going to get treatment at a public hospital when you are sick? What path is it that you fear somenone could be going down by doing so? Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
Big Blue Machine Posted January 29, 2006 Report Posted January 29, 2006 You guys are making a deal out of nothing. Quote And as I take man's last step from the surface, for now but we believe not too far into the future. I just like to say what I believe history will record that America's challenge on today has forged man's destiny of tomorrow. And as we leave the surface of Taurus-Littrow, we leave as we came and god willing we shall return with peace and hope for all mankind. Godspeed the crew of Apollo 17. Gene Cernan, the last man on the moon, December 1972.
BubberMiley Posted January 30, 2006 Report Posted January 30, 2006 That's for sure. They're just practicing being defensive for when a real scandal hits. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
tml12 Posted January 30, 2006 Report Posted January 30, 2006 That's for sure. They're just practicing being defensive for when a real scandal hits. Our secret revealed!!! Quote "Those who stand for nothing fall for anything." -Alexander Hamilton
shoop Posted January 31, 2006 Report Posted January 31, 2006 So by going to the hospital he is not being *honest and forthright*? Will anybody, please anybody, notice that the CBC is the news outlet that sent a reporter to ask Harper questions about this trip? Can anyone explain how a chest cold is so very different from an asthma attack so as to paint Harper as *dishonest and not forthright*? The point is that Harper has to be honest and forthright and be very open to show he is not going down the same path as many others have before him. Do you remember a scandal-less government in your lifetime ??? Perhaps mine is too short. Quote
tml12 Posted January 31, 2006 Report Posted January 31, 2006 So by going to the hospital he is not being *honest and forthright*?Will anybody, please anybody, notice that the CBC is the news outlet that sent a reporter to ask Harper questions about this trip? Can anyone explain how a chest cold is so very different from an asthma attack so as to paint Harper as *dishonest and not forthright*? The point is that Harper has to be honest and forthright and be very open to show he is not going down the same path as many others have before him. Do you remember a scandal-less government in your lifetime ??? Perhaps mine is too short. I agree Shoop. CBC is just tryint to stir up trouble...they give Chretien and Martin all the privacy in the world...can't we ask as CPC supporters ask the same of Prime Minister Harper? Quote "Those who stand for nothing fall for anything." -Alexander Hamilton
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