WestCanMan Posted March 10 Report Posted March 10 1 minute ago, Aristides said: Conventional vaccines such as Astra Zeneca had more severe side effects than MNRA vaccines. VAERS. People were injured by the MRNA jabs too, stupid. Those people were told the jabs were safe, stupid. Do you have something that proves young adults needed or benefitted from the jabs, stupid? Do you have something to justify forcing young adults to vax, stupid? Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. Kamala didn't get where she is because of her achievements or anything that came out of her mouth.
Aristides Posted March 10 Report Posted March 10 (edited) 2 hours ago, WestCanMan said: People were injured by the MRNA jabs too, stupid. Those people were told the jabs were safe, stupid. Do you have something that proves young adults needed or benefitted from the jabs, stupid? Do you have something to justify forcing young adults to vax, stupid? Done with your name calling. If you can't keep it civil you can just p*ss off. Edited March 10 by Aristides Quote
Legato Posted March 10 Report Posted March 10 6 hours ago, Aristides said: Your reading skills are poor. I said what I said. Lancet has made many reports. You obviously can't comprehend. My question was about the Lancet report quoted in the OP. Not "many reports". Quote
Aristides Posted March 10 Report Posted March 10 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Legato said: You obviously can't comprehend. My question was about the Lancet report quoted in the OP. Not "many reports". Maybe you should read it, the linked report was about influenza vaccines, not Covid and it covers conventional vaccines, not MNRA. Quote Adverse events of interest following influenza vaccination, a comparison of cell culture-based with egg-based alternatives: English sentinel network annual report paper 2019/20 Edited March 10 by Aristides Quote
Legato Posted March 10 Report Posted March 10 27 minutes ago, Aristides said: Maybe you should read it, the linked report was about influenza vaccines, not Covid and it covers conventional vaccines, not MNRA. The study, (Fraiman J. et al. Vaccine 2022 – pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36055877) also found an excess risk of serious adverse events of special interest for 1 in 550 after mRNA vaccination. As you are aware, this is extraordinarily high for a vaccine. In comparison, the risk of serious adverse events after influenza vaccination is much lower (Lusignan S. Lancet Regional Health – Europe 2021 – thelancet.com/pdfs/journals/lanepe/PIIS2666-7762(21)00006-5.pdf). For you to claim that serious adverse events such as these are “rare” when Pfizer and Moderna’s clinical trial data indicate they are not, is a startling exercise in disinformation. 1 Quote
robosmith Posted March 10 Report Posted March 10 3 hours ago, WestCanMan said: Umm, except for the people who you just acknowledged, who had to take the vax or face unemployment. Did members of the military even have the option to just quit if they didn't want to take the pseudovax? Military KNEW that MULTIPLE vaccinations were NOT optional when they signed up. 3 hours ago, WestCanMan said: Who says that no one in the FDA profited from the pseudovax? Was there an investigation into who might have been paid off by Big Pharma? Why would that be investigated? Did ANYONE have credible evidence to justify that? Never heard of ANY. 3 hours ago, WestCanMan said: That's from the beginning of 2023, and are you saying that 2,000 people don't matter? 2000 out of MILLIONS is insignificant. 3 hours ago, WestCanMan said: Isn't it weird that people are winning claims that prove the jabs weren't safe, but the vax companies and CDC are still saying that they're safe? You don't seem to understand the statistics. Maybe a dozen people died from the J&J blood clots. In the US ONE MILLION died from COVID. Risks are ALWAYS RELATIVE. 3 hours ago, WestCanMan said: Our media sunk hundreds of thousands of hours into covid fear porn and lying about the origin of the virus. Why don't they have ten minutes to talk about vax-injuries? Because there were much greater dangers from COVID. Duh 3 hours ago, WestCanMan said: How do you know that? You're just quoting people who lied about the jab to begin with, stupid. If you just caught someone cheating at cards ten times in a row would you trust them on the next hand? For the longest time we were told that there were "no injuries". Then we started hearing people tell the story of their injuries and the vax-cultists just said "the plural of anecdote isn't 'facts'". I.e., the people who said that they were injured were dismissed as liars. How much do you even know about vax injuries? Can you enlighten us or are you just talking out of your ass again? Where did you find out about the number and severity of these injuries? No one has caught the FDA or the pharma company trials "cheating." There are ALWAYS going to be ALLEGATIONS of harm; ACTUAL EVIDENCE, not so much. You have to look at the statistics to PROVE that harm that happened was GREATER than NORMAL. Like this cite: 5 hours ago, Aristides said: I'm only heavily invested in not seeing people die for no reason. 3% were not seriously injured. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html Quote Similarly, CDC found higher than expected rates of GBS reported to VAERS after J&J/Janssen COVID-19 vaccination but not after mRNA COVID-19 vaccination. These observations contributed to the preferential recommendation by the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) to use mRNA COVID-19 vaccines over the J&J/Janssen COVID-19 vaccine, which is no longer available in the United States. If you 1 Quote
WestCanMan Posted March 11 Report Posted March 11 1 hour ago, Aristides said: Conventional vaccines such as Astra Zeneca had more severe side effects than MNRA vaccines. VAERS. I'm talking about the traditional/legacy/common vaccines that we grew up with. Actual vaccines. If the MRNA jabs were actual, working vaccines and they were safe I wouldn't have an issue with them. That makes sense, right? You understand that if the jabs worked, and they were safe, and people needed them (young people don't need covid jabs) I wouldn't have a problem with them. You know what else? You wouldn't have to force people to take them. You don't have to threaten people with the loss of their job when there's a polio outbreak, TB, smallpox, etc. Right? Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. Kamala didn't get where she is because of her achievements or anything that came out of her mouth.
WestCanMan Posted March 11 Report Posted March 11 18 hours ago, Aristides said: Done with your name calling. If you can't keep it civil you can just p*ss off. Then acknowledge basic truths, pal. Stop acting like the jab is what we were promised. Stop acting like it's no big deal that young adults were forced to take it. Stop acting like it's safe enough to force young adults to take it. I'm calling you STUPID because you say STUPID things. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. Kamala didn't get where she is because of her achievements or anything that came out of her mouth.
robosmith Posted March 11 Report Posted March 11 42 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: I'm talking about the traditional/legacy/common vaccines that we grew up with. Actual vaccines. You're talking about bacterial vaccines. Viral vaccines are different because viruses are different. You've been told ^this before. Maybe someday it will sink in. 42 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: If the MRNA jabs were actual, working vaccines and they were safe I wouldn't have an issue with them. They do work. Goddess posted a graph that shows they worked. Did you miss that? 42 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: That makes sense, right? You understand that if the jabs worked, and they were safe, and people needed them (young people don't need covid jabs) I wouldn't have a problem with them. You have a problem with them because you buy the LIES heard on FOS. 42 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: You know what else? You wouldn't have to force people to take them. You don't have to threaten people with the loss of their job when there's a polio outbreak, TB, smallpox, etc. Right? Nobody ever thought to politicize those illnesses like COVID has been by the likes of YOU. Quote
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