Biden's SOTU Speech March 2024

[August1991]

9 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

It varies from state to state - unlike canada the states set the rules for voting. You can find plenty of  youtube vids if you want to see it in action in various places

But in ALL cases they use a ballot - not a form.

Ballot, form. What's the difference?

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In Canada, in federal/provincial elections, a voter chooses one person - puts one X beside a name.

In the US, a citizen must choose among many names - or pull a lever and vote the slate. Tail-coats, as they say.

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In Quebec, I vote in person. I use my photo health card to identify myself. By curiousity, I will check this.

Edited March 29, 2024 by August1991

[August1991]

Returning to my OP, I'm still convinced that Biden (the  Democrats) will win in Nov 2024.

I reckon that the Republicans (with Trump) will lose.

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The federal Senate and House are different. 

Edited March 29, 2024 by August1991

[Hodad]

12 minutes ago, August1991 said:

Ballot, form. What's the difference?

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In Canada, in federal/provincial elections, a voter chooses one person - puts one X beside a name.

In the US, a citizen must choose among many names - or pull a lever and vote the slate. Tail-coats, as they say.

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In Quebec, I vote in person. I use my photo health card to identify myself. By curiousity, I will check this.

Most ballots here are computerized or Scantron. It's not difficult though. You just mark one answer per section. Same thing every child does in standardized testing. The computers display just one question at a time. 

Takes a couple of minutes. Ask the voting gets done, and you only have to do it once. Which, I guess, is great if you're Black in a red state and have to wait hours to get in the door.

[August1991]

12 minutes ago, Hodad said:

Most ballots here are computerized or Scantron. It's not difficult though. You just mark one answer per section. Same thing every child does in standardized testing. The computers display just one question at a time. 

Takes a couple of minutes. Ask the voting gets done, and you only have to do it once. Which, I guess, is great if you're Black in a red state and have to wait hours to get in the door.

Scantron? WTF?

In Canada, we don't vote that way. In secret, hidden behind a counter, I put one X beside one name on a paper ballot - that I then fold.

In Quebec, several people check my ID and my name before I even get the paper ballot. 

Everyone watches me put the folded paper in a box.

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I have always wondered why/how there is a tag with numbers torn off.

 

[Hodad]

Just now, August1991 said:

Scantron? WTF?

In Canada, we don't vote that way. In secret, hidden behind a counter, I put one X beside one name on a paper ballot - that I then fold.

In Quebec, several people check my ID and my name before I even get the paper ballot. 

Everyone watches me put the folded paper in a box.

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I have always wondered why/how there is a tag with numbers torn off.

 

Scantron is fill-in the bubble. Yes, it's private in a curtained booth.

If we voted for one person/things at a time we'd have to go vote 20 or 30 times a year. Just not practical. 

[August1991]

1 minute ago, Hodad said:

Scantron is fill-in the bubble. Yes, it's private in a curtained booth.

If we voted for one person/things at a time we'd have to go vote 20 or 30 times a year. Just not practical. 

I have walked through the voting process in Russia, Sri Lanka and Bulgaria.

And of course, federal Canada and in Quebec, Alberta and Ontario.

I have never done this in the US.

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The voting procedure is one thing (verification of ballot) but whether any voter knows the name on a ballot is another, different question.

[August1991]

32 minutes ago, Hodad said:

Scantron is fill-in the bubble.

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Like how our Statistics Canada census form is filled in.

Note to foreigners: The US federal politicians are now decided by young activists who can collect forms.

[Hodad]

28 minutes ago, August1991 said:

I have walked through the voting process in Russia, Sri Lanka and Bulgaria.

And of course, federal Canada and in Quebec, Alberta and Ontario.

I have never done this in the US.

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The voting procedure is one thing (verification of ballot) but whether any voter knows the name on a ballot is another, different question.

We are registered ahead of time. We show up at our designated polling station, check in and vote.  Some states now require ID, but that's a political position rather than a practical position.

[August1991]

2 minutes ago, Hodad said:

We are registered ahead of time. We show up at our designated polling station, check in and vote.  Some states now require ID, but that's a political position rather than a practical position.

How you Americans choose your leaders is a complicated procedure - but it seems to work.

Chinese history has lasted for 5000 years. Russia, some 1000 years. You Americans have a written constitution that has survived 250 years.

[CdnFox]

10 hours ago, August1991 said:

Ballot, form. What's the difference?

Are you stupid?

A ballot allows you to only select from fixed predetermined choices.  A form allows you to express or explain elements of your response.  For eaxmple you can write in whatever you want for religion in the census form but you can't write in whomever you want for president on the election ballot.  A form has explinations and information that may possibly affect what you choose - a ballot cannot have any of that. etc etc  They are NOTHING alike

You are dumber than a stump.

[August1991]

On 3/29/2024 at 1:40 PM, CdnFox said:

Are you stupid?

A ballot allows you to only select from fixed predetermined choices.  A form allows you to express or explain elements of your response.  For eaxmple you can write in whatever you want for religion in the census form but you can't write in whomever you want for president on the election ballot.  A form has explinations and information that may possibly affect what you choose - a ballot cannot have any of that. etc etc  They are NOTHING alike

You are dumber than a stump.

CdnFox,

In effect, you describe the difference between a Canadian ballot and our Canadian census form.

Since the pandemic in 2020, the Democrats have discovered kryptonite. In some counties, Americans "vote" the way that we in Canada submit census forms.

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, August1991 said:

CdnFox,

In effect, you describe the difference between a Canadian ballot and our Canadian census form.

 

No, stupid.  I have described the difference between a ballot and a form.  A ballot records your vote.  A form allows for you to provide information rather than just vote.

All elections in the states use ballots.  All elections in Canada use ballots. BOTH census's in the states and canada use forms.

And i can only presume you use drugs Or that your mother did while pregnant

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Since the pandemic in 2020, the Democrats have discovered kryptonite. In some counties, Americans "vote" the way that we in Canada submit census forms.

None of those statements are true. The statement that August1991 is an !diot would be.  

[August1991]

30 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

.... I have described the difference between a ballot and a form.  A ballot records your vote.  A form allows for you to provide information rather than just vote.

Agreed.

In Canada, a ballot is one X beside one name on one paper. Secret. 30 seconds

You Americans have a paper/form (like our Census) with zillions of names/questions

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In Canada, we vote in person. Like in Russia.

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, August1991 said:

Agreed.

In Canada, a ballot is one X beside one name on one paper. Secret. 30 seconds

You Americans have a paper/form (like our Census) with zillions of names/questions

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In Canada, we vote in person. Like in Russia.

you are officially too stupid for this conversation.