Why Leftists Are So Unhappy

[WestCanMan]

20 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

I don't think you understand: I'm no more interested in a "debate" with you than I am in entering a turd-throwing contest with a chimpanzee because, in this case, it's the same thing. Someone who claims with a straight face that every single left winger supported riots during the BLM protests is simply not an individual who is interested in or capable of a good faith discussion and is only worth mocking.

Blah, blah, blah.

Again, what's the difference between your post and this?

Why not just save that photo to your computer and stop wasting everyone's time with your childish words?

We all know what you're going to say. It's ^that^.

[CdnFox]

5 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

This is easy:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/08/13/fact-check-democrats-have-condemned-violence-linked-protests/3317862001/

 

He said you.  Are you one of the people quoted in that article?

And nobody in that article actually denounced BLM or the violent riots. The closest they come is the mayor.  But biden didnt' denounce it - he just said that such violence isn't part of peaceful protest. Well- thats not 'denouncing' anyone.  same with the rest - they don't even straight out say the violence was wrong or that the riots were violent or that such riots  must never happen - they just soft shoe around it and say 'now now - is that REALLY the kind of protests we want? Is it? REaaaaally?

Sorry - but where is the actual condemnation? "This behavior is criminal and will not be tolerated and we will find those responsible and lock them up".   I don't see any of that in there, do you'?

Soooo  nope.  Did you want to try again?

[Deluge]

11 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

This is easy:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/08/13/fact-check-democrats-have-condemned-violence-linked-protests/3317862001/

 

Not for you.

Fact Checkers are largely full of shit, and they're full of shit in this case, too. 

When I say "you" I'm referring to "YOU" - black dog, greatest victim on this board. 

Once again: 

It would help if YOU publicly denounced BLM for their rioting, and even posted news and videos about what those left-wing nutjobs did. 

Can YOU, black dog, take the lead on that? It would certainly help disprove the notion that ALL left-wingies are behind BLM in solidarity.

 

[Black Dog]

1 minute ago, CdnFox said:

He said you.  Are you one of the people quoted in that article?

And nobody in that article actually denounced BLM or the violent riots. The closest they come is the mayor.  But biden didnt' denounce it - he just said that such violence isn't part of peaceful protest. Well- thats not 'denouncing' anyone.  same with the rest - they don't even straight out say the violence was wrong or that the riots were violent or that such riots  must never happen - they just soft shoe around it and say 'now now - is that REALLY the kind of protests we want? Is it? REaaaaally?

Sorry - but where is the actual condemnation? "This behavior is criminal and will not be tolerated and we will find those responsible and lock them up".   I don't see any of that in there, do you'?

Soooo  nope.  Did you want to try again?

Is this a joke because "sure they denounced the violence but they didn't do it in terms I consider strong enough" cannot be a serious attempt at an argument.

If those denunciations aren't strong enough, wait until you see Republican's responses to the Jan. 6 insurrection.

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, Black Dog said:

I reject your premise that the riots that took place around BLM were left wing, so....

Interesting, so what's your theory? Space aliens?

I mean if you're just going to ignore things like fact and reason and logic and science i guess it gets pretty easy to think you've won all kinds of discussions

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As for right wing political violence, see the list of right wing mass shooters I posted above.

ooo sorry kiddo - the fact that a shooter happened to be a conservative voter does NOT make the shooting politically motivated.

when that guy who shot up the republicans at the ball park said he did it becasue of what bernie sanders said - THAT'S politically motivated.

And the BLM riots still injured or killed more people.

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wut

Were some of those words too big for you? Tell me which one confused you and i'll say it more simply.

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What is is with right wingers on this board puffing themselves up with this corny tough guy talk when you're all a bunch of limp-dick suburbanites

You .... ahhh... you realize that was you puffing yourself up with corny tough guy talk while being a limp dick. You knew that right?  

I get it - it's like a defense mechanism. If you realize you're losing badly it's insults and calling people limp dicks. I can see where that would be an effective defense strategy in grade 8.  Might need to do better here. At the very least make the insults witty and entertaining  

[Black Dog]

2 minutes ago, Deluge said:

Not for you.

Fact Checkers are largely full of shit, and they're full of shit in this case, too.

 

So those people didn't say the things the article says they said regarding the riots? CNN just invented the quotes?

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When I say "you" I'm referring to "YOU" - black dog, greatest victim on this board. 

Once again: 

It would help if YOU publicly denounced BLM for their rioting, and even posted news and videos about what those left-wing nutjobs did. 

Can YOU, black dog, take the lead on that? It would certainly help disprove the notion that ALL left-wingies are behind BLM in solidarity

 

 

Why? I'm just a guy on a message board. The specific claims I was addressing named several of the Democrats who are on record speaking out against violence.

[CdnFox]

2 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

Is this a joke because "sure they denounced the violence but they didn't do it in terms I consider strong enough" cannot be a serious attempt at an argument.

 

They literally did not denounce the violence and more importantly they didn't denounce the people who were violent.  Period. "Please don't do that anymore" is not denouncing violence.

But hey - you're a raving lefty, set the record straight and say right here "the violence at any of the BLM or other riots over george floyd was horribly wrong and the people who did it or aided or supported  it are criminals and should be locked up for their crimes"

That'll be a start.  And of course some WHERE locked up - till Talib helped fundraise for their bail. But  - we'll deal with that later.

[CdnFox]

3 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

Why?

Why not? IT at least clarifies how you feel so that helps frame the discussion.

[Deluge]

6 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

1. So those people didn't say the things the article says they said regarding the riots? CNN just invented the quotes?

2. Why? I'm just a guy on a message board. The specific claims I was addressing named several of the Democrats who are on record speaking out against violence.

1. Yes. Those liars speak above a whisper MAYBE once to say "See? I said stuff!" LOL. 

2. Because you're acting like a whiny b*tch, that's why. In your mind, you're a "victim" right along side other "victims" like BLM.

Be honest for once in your life. Admit that you think white skin is the real problem, and that you're being persecuted for that belief. 

Edited January 29, 2024 by Deluge

[Black Dog]

1 minute ago, CdnFox said:

Interesting, so what's your theory? Space aliens?

My theory is the violence was largely precipitated by apolitical opportunists and, in some cases, agents provocateur.

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ooo sorry kiddo - the fact that a shooter happened to be a conservative voter does NOT make the shooting politically motivated.

 

The problem with this is your guys keep leaving manifestos detailing their beliefs and why they're committing mass murder. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_manifestos_of_mass_killers

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when that guy who shot up the republicans at the ball park said he did it becasue of what bernie sanders said - THAT'S politically motivated.

This is made up. It never happened.

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And the BLM riots still injured or killed more people.

Brenton Tarrant alone killed twice as many people as died during an entire summer of BLM protests.

 

[CdnFox]

17 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

See, I don't think a bunch of strawmen arguments and question-begging is a meaningful contribution but i literally have responded to you in good faith and got condescension and faux tough guy posturing back so what do you expect.

Well a sensible man would expect you would reply with what you DO consider to be a meaningful conversation. An example for others

And what you responded with appears to suggest that you feel being an uneducated dolt is your version of a meaningful conversation. You can't make a rational argument, you cant' defend your points or your post, you blow off everything thats too difficult for you to answer with insults and you claim that all that is someone else's fault.

I mean - 10 out of 10 for reinforcing the stereotypes about lefies but minus several million for looking like a particularly uneducated echo-chamber dweller.

 

 

[Black Dog]

6 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

They literally did not denounce the violence and more importantly they didn't denounce the people who were violent.  Period. "Please don't do that anymore" is not denouncing violence.

But hey - you're a raving lefty, set the record straight and say right here "the violence at any of the BLM or other riots over george floyd was horribly wrong and the people who did it or aided or supported  it are criminals and should be locked up for their crimes"

That'll be a start.  And of course some WHERE locked up - till Talib helped fundraise for their bail. But  - we'll deal with that later.

They denounced it, you simply don't think the terms they used were strong enough, there's no where for this discussion to go because you simply are operating on a plane of reality of which you are the sole occupant.

Just now, CdnFox said:

Well a sensible man would expect you would reply with what you DO consider to be a meaningful conversation. An example for others

And what you responded with appears to suggest that you feel being an uneducated dolt is your version of a meaningful conversation. You can't make a rational argument, you cant' defend your points or your post, you blow off everything thats too difficult for you to answer with insults and you claim that all that is someone else's fault.

I mean - 10 out of 10 for reinforcing the stereotypes about lefies but minus several million for looking like a particularly uneducated echo-chamber dweller.

I should just start doing what you guys do and invent whole new realities out of the ether and pretend that they are the truth.

[Black Dog]

9 minutes ago, Deluge said:

1. Yes. Those liars speak above a whisper MAYBE once to say "See? I said stuff!" LOL. 

Going from "They didn't denounce the riots"  to "they did but they didn't mean it" or "they did but not hard enough" like that other dummy said is just moving the goalposts. Accept the fact that you are wrong.

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2. Because you're acting like a whiny b*tch, that's why. In your mind, you're a "victim" right along side other "victims" like BLM.

Be honest for once in your life. Admit that you think white skin is the real problem, and that you're being persecuted for that belief. 

 

I'm not, but I think you, specifically, should be.

Edited January 29, 2024 by Black Dog

[Black Dog]

16 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

You .... ahhh... you realize that was you puffing yourself up with corny tough guy talk while being a limp dick. You knew that right?  

I get it - it's like a defense mechanism. If you realize you're losing badly it's insults and calling people limp dicks. I can see where that would be an effective defense strategy in grade 8.  Might need to do better here. At the very least make the insults witty and entertaining  

I don't consider having a bunch of people with single digit IQs yell at me on a message board to be "losing". Also my insults are far more clever than anything you micropenises have thrown at me.

[Deluge]

Just now, Black Dog said:

1. Going from "They didn't denounce the riots"  to "they did but they didn't mean it" or "they did but not hard enough" like that other ****** said is just moving the goalposts. Accept the fact that you are wrong.

2. I'm not, but I think you, specifically, should be.

1. They DIDN'T - not really. They make a half assed statement to try and divert attention so they can get right back to helping the Obama cult fan the flames of racial division. 

2. Yes you are. Your support of BLM demonstrates it.

[Deluge]

3 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

I don't consider having a bunch of people with single digit IQs yell at me on a message board to be "losing". Also my insults are far more clever than anything you micropenises have thrown at me.

black dog is angry because patriots are non-compliant. lol

[WestCanMan]

3 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

They denounced it, you simply don't think the terms they used were strong enough, there's no where for this discussion to go because you simply are operating on a plane of reality of which you are the sole occupant.

Show us where they denounced it then...

We have shown plenty of examples of them lying to get riots started, letting criminals out, bailing criminals out, pretending that the violence wasn't happening, asking HS kids to stay angry, refusing to acknowledge things like attacks on the WH, they acted like overrunning police stations was social justice, etc, etc, etc. 

I quite easily showed where Trump called for the rioting to stop on Jan 6th. It was 3-4 hrs of rioting and he called for it to stop 3 times. Even Alex Jones did that. 

You have 3 full years worth of rioting where you just have to find some examples of leftard leaders calling for a cease to the violence. 

Again, bring some facts for once, dummy.

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[Black Dog]

1 minute ago, WestCanMan said:

Show us where they denounced it then...

We have shown plenty of examples of them lying to get riots started, letting criminals out, bailing criminals out, pretending that the violence wasn't happening, asking HS kids to stay angry, refusing to acknowledge things like attacks on the WH, they acted like overrunning police stations was social justice, etc, etc, etc. 

Asked and answered above.

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I quite easily showed where Trump called for the rioting to stop on Jan 6th. It was 3-4 hrs of rioting and he called for it to stop 3 times. Even Alex Jones did that. 

He also incited the mob in the first place lol. 

[Black Dog]

14 minutes ago, Deluge said:

1. They DIDN'T - not really. They make a half assed statement to try and divert attention so they can get right back to helping the Obama cult fan the flames of racial division. 

All this statement proves is that there's no evidence you would accept because you're impervious to any statement that threatens your worldview/preexisting beliefs and ideology.

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2. Yes you are. Your support of BLM demonstrates it.

 

Once again, you're simply projecting here. You and your fellow travellers in this thread all believe you are victims and white conservative males are an oppressed minority. True or false?

11 minutes ago, Deluge said:

black dog is angry because patriots are non-compliant. lol

So are toddlers and people with oppositional defiant disorder.

Edited January 29, 2024 by Black Dog

[CdnFox]

2 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

My theory is the violence was largely precipitated by apolitical opportunists and, in some cases, agents provocateur.

Do you have any evidence of that or is that just something that fits your narrative? And by evidence i don't mean hard stuff, just 'balance of probability' stuff.

There is some evidence to support the rioters were blm supporters and people

https://www.businessinsider.com/man-who-started-black-lives-matter-riot-pleaded-guilty-2021-2

There are many others. Many of those charged were known blm supporters, or george floyd supporters.  Not just 'opportunists'. So at least SOME of it went on under BLM's nose.

Further - i can't find a single action that blm took that actually appears to be an effort to reduce the violence. Or shut the violence down when it started. So unless you have something pretty potent there it seems they accepted it and were fine with it.

There's also the scale and frequency.

Sorry - but you'll have to provide some pretty compelling counter evidence to support that.

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The problem with this is your guys keep leaving manifestos detailing their beliefs and why they're committing mass murder. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_manifestos_of_mass_killers

You guys?  Many of those are actually LEFT wing manifestos. Like Chris dormer who sites hatred of police as his reason - sorry but that's TOTALLY blm or left wing, not right wing.

ANd many don't mention politics at all.

Swing and a miss kiddo.

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This is made up. It never happened.

https://www.cnn.com/2017/06/14/homepage2/james-hodgkinson-profile/index.html Actually worked for bernie.  Would later quote bernie as a source of his beliefs.  At the time Bernie was being quoted as saying that the republicans were trying to kill americans (with their health care policy).  At least bernie had the nuts to actually condemn this violence. Sooo yeah.  It happened.  Sorry to burst your bubble. Do you think maybe you should have done a web search before claiming it never happened? Quote Brenton Tarrant alone killed twice as many people as died during an entire summer of BLM protests That was new zealand.  Not the us. Oh - did you want to go world wide? The muslims alone will put me way the hell over the top if we do that   Not to mention other radical groups   Why don't we keep it to the us for now, it's more fair. You seem to be someone who skims over facts without understanding them.  I'd suggest reading a little more carefully

[CdnFox]

22 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

They denounced it, you simply don't think the terms they used were strong enough, there's no where for this discussion to go because you simply are operating on a plane of reality of which you are the sole occupant.

 

They did not denounce it - but more interestingly YOU aren't denouncing it either. Hmmmmm.  And again the cheezy insults that lack imagination trying to deflect from that.

Yeah.  About what i expected. They refused to denounce it, quietly supported it, and you support it and refuse to denounce it as well.

Well there you go. See - this is why the left is so unhappy, they're violent rioters AND they keep getting caught when they're dishonest.    Sorry to hear about your pain.

20 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

I don't consider having a bunch of people with single digit IQs yell at me on a message board to be "losing". Also my insults are far more clever than anything you micropenises have thrown at me.

Dude - the only one displaying single digits here is you, which is why i said step it up.

And you are definitely making horrible arguments that would be better suited for an elementary school playground. Even your cites aren't standing up.

Do  better.

[WestCanMan]

11 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

Asked and answered above.

Wrong.

Your little article showed a few half-hearted, mamby-pamby statements that were half-in, half-out. 

There was never a specific or full-throated condemnation of the violence. By contrast, the Dems' actions clearly supported the riots.

Leftard leaders even referred to the violent take-over of part of Seattle as "The Summer of Love". 

There were very few arrests based on the number of assaults and murders and all of the destruction, and even then, Dems let those few offenders out where they had the power or bailed them out where GOP were in power. What message does that send, dummy? What side were they really on? 

You don't have to guess..

Find some actual statements against rioting or concede, weasel. 

[Black Dog]

6 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Do you have any evidence of that or is that just something that fits your narrative? And by evidence i don't mean hard stuff, just 'balance of probability' stuff.

There is some evidence to support the rioters were blm supporters and people

https://www.businessinsider.com/man-who-started-black-lives-matter-riot-pleaded-guilty-2021-2

There are many others. Many of those charged were known blm supporters, or george floyd supporters.  Not just 'opportunists'. So at least SOME of it went on under BLM's nose.

Further - i can't find a single action that blm took that actually appears to be an effort to reduce the violence. Or shut the violence down when it started. So unless you have something pretty potent there it seems they accepted it and were fine with it.

There's also the scale and frequency.

Sorry - but you'll have to provide some pretty compelling counter evidence to support that

The cops couldn't stop the riots, what actions were BLM supposed to take?

 

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You guys?  Many of those are actually LEFT wing manifestos. Like Chris dormer who sites hatred of police as his reason - sorry but that's TOTALLY blm or left wing, not right wing.

ANd many don't mention politics at all.

Swing and a miss kiddo.

 

Of the 18 shooters listed, 13 were right wingers.

 

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https://www.cnn.com/2017/06/14/homepage2/james-hodgkinson-profile/index.html

Actually worked for bernie.  Would later quote bernie as a source of his beliefs.  At the time Bernie was being quoted as saying that the republicans were trying to kill americans (with their health care policy). 

At least bernie had the nuts to actually condemn this violence.

Sooo yeah.  It happened.  Sorry to burst your bubble. Do you think maybe you should have done a web search before claiming it never happened?

 

Your specific claim was the shooter "did it becasue of what bernie sanders said." You have a source for that?

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That was new zealand.  Not the us. Oh - did you want to go world wide? The muslims alone will put me way the hell over the top if we do that   Not to mention other radical groups   

 

Do you think radical islamists are left wingers? lol.

 

12 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

They did not denounce it - but more interestingly YOU aren't denouncing it either. Hmmmmm.  And again the cheezy insults that lack imagination trying to deflect from that.

Yeah.  About what i expected. They refused to denounce it, quietly supported it, and you support it and refuse to denounce it as well.

Well there you go. See - this is why the left is so unhappy, they're violent rioters AND they keep getting caught when they're dishonest.    Sorry to hear about your pain.

You're literally lying to me and to yourself here. 

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Dude - the only one displaying single digits here is you, which is why i said step it up.

And you are definitely making horrible arguments that would be better suited for an elementary school playground. Even your cites aren't standing up.

Do  better.

 

Your response here is literally just "I know you are but what am I" lol.  I'd tell you to go back to the playground, but I have a feeling you aren't allowed within 200 meters of one.

5 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Wrong.

Your little article showed a few half-hearted, mamby-pamby statements that were half-in, half-out. 

There was never a specific or full-throated condemnation of the violence. By contrast, the Dems' actions clearly supported the riots.

Leftard leaders even referred to the violent take-over of part of Seattle as "The Summer of Love". 

There were very few arrests based on the number of assaults and murders and all of the destruction, and even then, Dems let those few offenders out where they had the power or bailed them out where GOP were in power. What message does that send, dummy? What side were they really on? 

You don't have to guess..

Find some actual statements against rioting or concede, weasel. 

Like i said to the other one of you nitwits:  there's no evidence you would accept because you're impervious to any statement that threatens your worldview/preexisting beliefs and ideology. 

[WestCanMan]

3 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

Like i said to the other one of you nitwits:  there's no evidence you would accept because you're impervious to any statement that threatens your worldview/preexisting beliefs and ideology. 

Is this your final answer then?

You want to accept a single quote by Biden in 3 years, merely saying: "It's really important to protest against police injustice & brutality, but breaking windows isn't ok", as evidence that he denounced the rioting?

Thanks for coming out, dummy. 

[WestCanMan]

It seems that

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is on a mission to prove that leftists actually do support rioting, and they constantly cite injustice as the reason for their own unhappiness [as per the thread title and OP], as well as being a good reason to destroy neighbourhoods, kill cops and assault people. 

Thanks, puppy.