hiti Posted January 7, 2006 Report Posted January 7, 2006 Tories silence candidates Pair told not to talk about same-sex meeting volunteer By STEPHEN MAHER Staff Reporter and Our Staff The Conservative party has told two Halifax-area candidates not to talk to reporters about a meeting of clergy opposed to same-sex marriage that they attended Wednesday. "We’ve been told by Ottawa that we don’t talk about that," Paula Henderson told The Chronicle Herald on Thursday. "That’s a dropped subject." Ms. Henderson is a campaign volunteer for Rakesh Khosla, the Tory running against Fisheries Minister Geoff Regan in Halifax West. Paul Francis, the Conservative candidate for Sackville-Eastern Shore, also attended the meeting and he too refused to comment. http://www.herald.ns.ca/Front/475500.html Quote "You cannot bring your Western standards to Afghanistan and expect them to work. This is a different society and a different culture." -Hamid Karzai, President of Afghanistan June 23/07
The Honest Politician Posted January 7, 2006 Report Posted January 7, 2006 Keep up the good work Elsie Wayne! The whole point of bringing up the SSM issue the first day of the campaign was apparently to ensure it was forgotten by election day. Thanks to the Pro-Marriage Network the conservatives may still have to explain how they plan on removing Charter rights. Censorship from the Conservatives? I am shocked! Never would have guessed they had something to hide. Quote
tml12 Posted January 7, 2006 Report Posted January 7, 2006 Keep up the good work Elsie Wayne!The whole point of bringing up the SSM issue the first day of the campaign was apparently to ensure it was forgotten by election day. Thanks to the Pro-Marriage Network the conservatives may still have to explain how they plan on removing Charter rights. Censorship from the Conservatives? I am shocked! Never would have guessed they had something to hide. Don't worry...I am sure the Liberals will BUY this election with YOUR money. If it wasn't mine too I wouldn't much care about you having to live under the one-party Liberal Fascist state you obviously adore. Quote "Those who stand for nothing fall for anything." -Alexander Hamilton
The Honest Politician Posted January 7, 2006 Report Posted January 7, 2006 The Conservative Ideology has more in common with Fascism than the Liberals does. Quote
tml12 Posted January 7, 2006 Report Posted January 7, 2006 The Conservative Ideology has more in common with Fascism than the Liberals does. You are right...a poor choice of words on my part. The last dictatorship I thought of was Fascist but you just as easily could put up Communist. After all, the Commies were in power in the USSR in the 20th century almost as long as the dictatorial Liberals were here. Quote "Those who stand for nothing fall for anything." -Alexander Hamilton
scribblet Posted January 7, 2006 Report Posted January 7, 2006 The Conservative Ideology has more in common with Fascism than the Liberals does. Nonsense, the CPC wants less government and more freedoms, hardly fascist. Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
The Honest Politician Posted January 7, 2006 Report Posted January 7, 2006 The Conservative Ideology has more in common with Fascism than the Liberals does. Nonsense, the CPC wants less government and more freedoms, hardly fascist. That is a good joke! Totally wrong but a good joke none the less. The liberal ideals are closer to communism and the conservative ideals are closer to fascism. It is not a debate, it just simply is. Quote
tml12 Posted January 7, 2006 Report Posted January 7, 2006 The Conservative Ideology has more in common with Fascism than the Liberals does. Nonsense, the CPC wants less government and more freedoms, hardly fascist. That is a good joke! Totally wrong but a good joke none the less. The liberal ideals are closer to communism and the conservative ideals are closer to fascism. It is not a debate, it just simply is. Liberals close to Communism??? Conservatives close to Fascism??? You clearly never studied political science... Quote "Those who stand for nothing fall for anything." -Alexander Hamilton
scribblet Posted January 7, 2006 Report Posted January 7, 2006 The Conservative Ideology has more in common with Fascism than the Liberals does. Nonsense, the CPC wants less government and more freedoms, hardly fascist. That is a good joke! Totally wrong but a good joke none the less. The liberal ideals are closer to communism and the conservative ideals are closer to fascism. It is not a debate, it just simply is. It simply 'is' thats your opinion and is- simply - wrong. Fascism is typified by totalitarian attempts to impose state control over all aspects of life: political, social and cultural. That describes the liberals far more than the CPC. However, when anyone uses the word fascist or Nazi to describe any party, credibility is out the window as it trivializes what the real fascists and Nazis really are about. Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
shoop Posted January 7, 2006 Report Posted January 7, 2006 That is the sad fact with the Liberals. They have no soul, guiding ideology or true set of beliefs. It is all attack attack attack. Look at the start of this thread. A volunteer being asked not to comment on policy issues is turned into *candidates silenced*. Pretty desperate Liberals. Pretty desperate. It simply 'is' thats your opinion and is- simply - wrong. Fascism is typified by totalitarian attempts to impose state control over all aspects of life: political, social and cultural. That describes the liberals far more than the CPC. However, when anyone uses the word fascist or Nazi to describe any party, credibility is out the window as it trivializes what the real fascists and Nazis really are about. Quote
tml12 Posted January 7, 2006 Report Posted January 7, 2006 That is the sad fact with the Liberals. They have no soul, guiding ideology or true set of beliefs.It is all attack attack attack. Look at the start of this thread. A volunteer being asked not to comment on policy issues is turned into *candidates silenced*. Pretty desperate Liberals. Pretty desperate. It simply 'is' thats your opinion and is- simply - wrong. Fascism is typified by totalitarian attempts to impose state control over all aspects of life: political, social and cultural. That describes the liberals far more than the CPC. However, when anyone uses the word fascist or Nazi to describe any party, credibility is out the window as it trivializes what the real fascists and Nazis really are about. Agreed. Quote "Those who stand for nothing fall for anything." -Alexander Hamilton
justcrowing Posted January 7, 2006 Report Posted January 7, 2006 http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2000/oct/001003a.html The Source of Trudeau's philosophy In brief, Trudeau's philosophy and the foundation of his political actions was based on his great admiration and personal exposure to leftist individuals and movements. Fr. de Valk writes "at the London school of economics in the academic year 1947-48, Trudeau met Harold Laski, the intellectual Don of British labor socialism, whom Trudeau described as a 'most stimulating and powerful influence'. Laski convinced him that Democratic socialism could answer the needs of society. Trudeau visited Moscow a few times and reported favorably on Stalin's totalitarianism in the magazine Cite Libre. He frequently expressed enthusiasm for Mao Tse Tung and China's Communist regime, never referring to the mind-boggling number of lives that were snuffed out by that regime. He greatly admired Cuba's marxist despot Fidel Castro and publicly hugged his friend Castro during a trip to Cuba in 1976. Trudeau's shout of "Vive Castro!" at a large public event during the trip was broadcast around the world. Link Byfield, in a September 30, 2000 Globe and Mail column, stated Trudeau "was once overheard by reporters remarking to Fidel Castro how much quicker and easier it would be to run things the Cuban way". The Power and Size of the State Mushroomed Under Trudeau It is no wonder then that the size and power of government bureaucracy and spending ballooned under Pierre Trudeau. Canada's economic and political order (or rather disorder), which for socialists is intimately connected to the social and moral order, has also never been the same since Pierre Trudeau. Byfield states "he put us into a multi-generational national debt." "The net federal debt was $17 billion when he came in and $128 billion when he left. There was no federal deficit when he took control and a $25 billion dollar annual deficit by the time of his departure". Inflation zoomed, interest rates skyrocketed and the dollar began its long descent. The Charter of Wrongs Link Byfield states, "Parliament annoyed him, so he bulldozed his Charter of Rights into the Constitution (1982) and surrendered statutory supremacy to the court". There was no significant public pressure whatever for a Charter of Rights. This did not come from the will of the people. It was sprung on Canadians by the will of Pierre Elliott Trudeau although, as was his usual strategy, he convinced many Canadians to make the Charter their own, even though they still don't understand it. His famous quote explains this manipulation - "In terms of political tactics, the only real question democratic socialists must answer is: just how much reform can the majority of the people be brought to desire at the present time". After all, who could be against cleverly labelled "rights and freedoms." Most Canadians have still not caught on that there was something odd about Trudeau, an admirer of Marxist regimes and contemptious of Parliament and anyone who seriously challenged his policies, insisting that there must be Charter of individual rights and freedoms in the Constitution. Our well-proven Common Law tradition already guaranteed us fundamental rights and the flexibility to safely adjust legal rights and obligations as circumstances changed. Canada did not need the Charter. Quote
betsy Posted January 7, 2006 Report Posted January 7, 2006 Tories silence candidatesPair told not to talk about same-sex meeting volunteer By STEPHEN MAHER Staff Reporter and Our Staff The Conservative party has told two Halifax-area candidates not to talk to reporters about a meeting of clergy opposed to same-sex marriage that they attended Wednesday. "We’ve been told by Ottawa that we don’t talk about that," Paula Henderson told The Chronicle Herald on Thursday. "That’s a dropped subject." Ms. Henderson is a campaign volunteer for Rakesh Khosla, the Tory running against Fisheries Minister Geoff Regan in Halifax West. Paul Francis, the Conservative candidate for Sackville-Eastern Shore, also attended the meeting and he too refused to comment. http://www.herald.ns.ca/Front/475500.html Martin apparently asked the reporters not to bring up the current scandals during his campaign. This was poked about at a Mike Duffy discussion. I guess Liberals are so used to ordering the media about...printing only what will be good for the Liberals. Seems like a few media members are rebelling....some blatantly ignoring the "royal request". Way to go media! Keep that freedom part alive! Say no to censorship! Tories silence candidatesPair told not to talk about same-sex meeting volunteer By STEPHEN MAHER Staff Reporter and Our Staff The Conservative party has told two Halifax-area candidates not to talk to reporters about a meeting of clergy opposed to same-sex marriage that they attended Wednesday. "We’ve been told by Ottawa that we don’t talk about that," Paula Henderson told The Chronicle Herald on Thursday. "That’s a dropped subject." Ms. Henderson is a campaign volunteer for Rakesh Khosla, the Tory running against Fisheries Minister Geoff Regan in Halifax West. Paul Francis, the Conservative candidate for Sackville-Eastern Shore, also attended the meeting and he too refused to comment. http://www.herald.ns.ca/Front/475500.html It was mentioned at Mike Duffy Count Down that Martin asked the reporters not to bring up the scandals during his campaign. It looks like the Liberals are so used to ordering the media about. But by the looks of it, some are starting to rebel and blatantly ignored the royal request. Way to go, media! Oppose CENSORSHIP! Keep that freedom of speech/expression alive! Quote
The Honest Politician Posted January 7, 2006 Report Posted January 7, 2006 That is the sad fact with the Liberals. They have no soul, guiding ideology or true set of beliefs.It is all attack attack attack. Look at the start of this thread. A volunteer being asked not to comment on policy issues is turned into *candidates silenced*. Pretty desperate Liberals. Pretty desperate. It simply 'is' thats your opinion and is- simply - wrong. Fascism is typified by totalitarian attempts to impose state control over all aspects of life: political, social and cultural. That describes the liberals far more than the CPC. However, when anyone uses the word fascist or Nazi to describe any party, credibility is out the window as it trivializes what the real fascists and Nazis really are about. Go look at the definition of Fascism. Quote
tml12 Posted January 7, 2006 Report Posted January 7, 2006 That is the sad fact with the Liberals. They have no soul, guiding ideology or true set of beliefs. It is all attack attack attack. Look at the start of this thread. A volunteer being asked not to comment on policy issues is turned into *candidates silenced*. Pretty desperate Liberals. Pretty desperate. It simply 'is' thats your opinion and is- simply - wrong. Fascism is typified by totalitarian attempts to impose state control over all aspects of life: political, social and cultural. That describes the liberals far more than the CPC. However, when anyone uses the word fascist or Nazi to describe any party, credibility is out the window as it trivializes what the real fascists and Nazis really are about. Go look at the definition of Fascism. A Fascist state is, simply put, a militaristic state. Now why don't you actually debate the issues instead of all this extremist name calling? Quote "Those who stand for nothing fall for anything." -Alexander Hamilton
The Honest Politician Posted January 7, 2006 Report Posted January 7, 2006 Uh-oh. Looks like Elsie can take a break. The conservatives are doing their own anti-SSM movement with the church. "God Bless Canada" just got perverted into an anti-SSM war cry. Harper is using his "God Bless Canada" speech closing to create ties with religious people. I have no problem with that. But at the same time he is using Church Leadership to further his own political agenda. That I have a problem with. http://www.cbc.ca/canadanowns/media/200601...bate_missed.ram Quote
tml12 Posted January 7, 2006 Report Posted January 7, 2006 Uh-oh. Looks like Elsie can take a break. The conservatives are doing their own anti-SSM movement with the church."God Bless Canada" just got perverted into an anti-SSM war cry. Harper is using his "God Bless Canada" speech closing to create ties with religious people. I have no problem with that. But at the same time he is using Church Leadership to further his own political agenda. That I have a problem with. http://www.cbc.ca/canadanowns/media/200601...bate_missed.ram If this election is decided on SSM (which Martin personally opposes, it will shows just how backwards a civilization Canada is). Quote "Those who stand for nothing fall for anything." -Alexander Hamilton
err Posted January 7, 2006 Report Posted January 7, 2006 Don't worry...I am sure the Liberals will BUY this election with YOUR money. If it wasn't mine too I wouldn't much care about you having to live under the one-party Liberal Fascist state you obviously adore. In the past day you've called the Liberals both Facists and Communists. These parties have diametrically opposing viewpoints. This clearly demonstrates your knowledge of politics.... Quote
tml12 Posted January 8, 2006 Report Posted January 8, 2006 Don't worry...I am sure the Liberals will BUY this election with YOUR money. If it wasn't mine too I wouldn't much care about you having to live under the one-party Liberal Fascist state you obviously adore. In the past day you've called the Liberals both Facists and Communists. These parties have diametrically opposing viewpoints. This clearly demonstrates your knowledge of politics.... If I did (which I dont remember doing) it was because both of those types of government rely on one party rule, much like the Liberals. Quote "Those who stand for nothing fall for anything." -Alexander Hamilton
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