Why we must prevent Harper from becoming PM

[emailforcanada]

Sorry if this is a little lengthy but like so many Canadians, I am adding my voice to the growing consensus of people who agree that we must prevent Harper from becoming the leader of our fine Country. His actions have shown that he cares more about getting his party into power than the best interests of Canada. His choices show that he would be a very bad leader for Canada and would take our country in the wrong direction. He has demonstrated a type of political opportunism that is at the expense of Canada’s stability. He points the finger at others claiming to be pure and ethical. Yet his under his leadership, his own party’s actions show that he is willing to play just the same political games that he claims others are guilty of.

Here are some examples to support these statements.

1. Back in May 2005 Harper and his team saw an opportunity to get into power by jumping on the sponsorship scandal. He and his team brought parliament to a virtual standstill for many days and created more instability for our country by attempting to topple the Government when an election had already been announced. Even if he believed that he would win, this type of instability is very bad for any country and the world perception of Canada. He failed – and rightly so. This is not the right way to get into power and a good leader would not have exacerbated the situation the way he did. It is just one example of the kind of choices that Harper makes and it shows he cares about his own party’s interest over the well being of Canada. There is no question that the sponsorship scandal has had a negative impact on public confidence. Harper’s choice however, was to make matters worse at a time when we needed all parties to do the right thing for Canada. The right thing would be to do everything possible to maintain political stability and keep parliamentary business going until the election.

2. Harper pressed very hard to have Canada send troops to Iraq. This was clear during his statements in questions period at the time. I would like to see CTV or CBC replay the coverage of those question period speeches from Harper. His spokespeople can try to deny it but it was very clear that if he had been in power, we would be very involved in the Iraq mess. Harper showed that he was very keen to have us follow the Bush administration into Iraq without UN support regardless of the consequences and this shows the type of poor choices that Harper can make.

3. Harper and his party have decided to use GST to try to convince people to vote for them. Look at the way his announcement was made with tacky signs that were used – much like we would see in a discount store TV ad. Most economists agree that this is actually a poor choice and there are better ways to reduce the tax burden. While his PR folks did a fine job, it only shows that there is a willingness to try and use any catchy gimmick to get elected.

4. Harper often comes across as angry and bitter. It shows regularly when he speaks and it shows a lot when he does not get his own way. This is not the kind of face we want to show to the world as the leader of Canada.

5. With all the internal focus on merging of the ex-Reform /Alliance/ Conservative party, this is really a relatively newly formed party coming out of a great deal of inner turmoil. I believe that there are many caring folks within this new Conservative party that do not at all agree with the direction that Harper and the top aides are taking. We saw witness of at least one member who stood up and made that clear by crossing the floor.

We have seen very scary examples in other countries of what can happen when the wrong leader is elected. It can take years to recover from the decisions and mistakes made.

Finally – it is too simplistic and foolish for anyone to make broad sweeping claims that absolutely every members of a particular party is either corrupt or perfect. That is absolute nonsense. There are extremely competent and decent people working hard in all political parties. There are always some who are not up to scratch. For sure there are unfortunately those few who are corrupt. That can be stated about any party as we look back over history. I believe that the conservatives will eventually find a better leader and get a better strategy but right now they are following Harper and that is a poor choice for their party and for our country.

Whatever can be said about the current government, Canada is in a very strong position and well respected in the world. On the Iraq situation we stood out ground and we are respected for that. Our economical situation is actually very strong and we have enormous opportunities ahead. Whoever you vote for, I respectfully submit this to urge others who care about Canada that we must not allow Harper and the conservatives get into power in 2006.

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Wow, thanks for that fair and balanced analysis. Maybe you shouldn't use information straight out of the Liberal's talking points.

He and his team brought parliament to a virtual standstill for many days and created more instability for our country by attempting to topple the Government when an election had already been announced.

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Ahhh, that is right. Paul Martin proposed an historically unprecedented election *at least* nine months after his pleading on TV, because he feared losing an election called at that time. If he had run a better campaign in 2004 he could have controlled the election timing to that extent.

Harper and his party have decided to use GST to try to convince people to vote for them. Look at the way his announcement was made with tacky signs that were used – much like we would see in a discount store TV ad.

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Hmmm, people shouldn't vote for Harper because you think the signs he used were *tacky*? Wow, what a great reason not to vote for somebody.

this is really a relatively newly formed party coming out of a great deal of inner turmoil.

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No inner turmoil going on with the Liberals right now. Only eight(?) present or former cabinet ministers setting up leadership teams at the moment.

Our economical situation is actually very strong and we have enormous opportunities ahead.

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Guess our "economical situation" is better than our grammatical one!

[emailforcanada]

Hmmm - Honestly ..I had not read any talking points from the liberals yet but maybe now I will - but it is interesting that some independent analysis supports what is apparently being said there.

My point is that a good leader must do the right thing even if he/she believes others are not. That is not what Harper did... in fact he made the Conservatives look just as bad and I know that is not what decent Conservative party memebrs had in mind.

Wow, thanks for that fair and balanced analysis.    Maybe you shouldn't use information straight out of the Liberal's talking points.

He and his team brought parliament to a virtual standstill for many days and created more instability for our country by attempting to topple the Government when an election had already been announced.

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Ahhh, that is right. Paul Martin proposed an historically unprecedented election *at least* nine months after his pleading on TV, because he feared losing an election called at that time. If he had run a better campaign in 2004 he could have controlled the election timing to that extent.

Harper and his party have decided to use GST to try to convince people to vote for them. Look at the way his announcement was made with tacky signs that were used – much like we would see in a discount store TV ad.

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Hmmm, people shouldn't vote for Harper because you think the signs he used were *tacky*? Wow, what a great reason not to vote for somebody.

this is really a relatively newly formed party coming out of a great deal of inner turmoil.

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No inner turmoil going on with the Liberals right now. Only eight(?) present or former cabinet ministers setting up leadership teams at the moment.

Our economical situation is actually very strong and we have enormous opportunities ahead.

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Guess our "economical situation" is better than our grammatical one!

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[shoop]

Independent analysis

Hmmm -  Honestly ..I had not read any talking points from the liberals yet but maybe now I will - but it is interesting that some independent analysis supports what is apparently being said there.

My point is that a good leader must do the right thing even if he/she believes others are not. That is not what Harper did... in fact he made the Conservatives look just as bad and I know that is not what decent Conservative party memebrs had in mind. 

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[emailforcanada]

In general, accute cynicism makes it very hard to believing that anyone could possibly have a different opinion about Harper unless of course they were paid or put up to it That is understandable. Unfortunately his actions, speeches adn behaviour have combined to show many of us all we needed to see to decied that he really is not a great choice.

Independent analysis 

Hmmm -  Honestly ..I had not read any talking points from the liberals yet but maybe now I will - but it is interesting that some independent analysis supports what is apparently being said there.

My point is that a good leader must do the right thing even if he/she believes others are not. That is not what Harper did... in fact he made the Conservatives look just as bad and I know that is not what decent Conservative party memebrs had in mind. 

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[willy]

Great, I will vote for him.

You get one vote, and that is against.

Okay 20 million more to go. I guess that is why we call it democracy. We all get to make up our own mind.

I think Harper has showen the ability to stay the course and his leadership is growing. The definition of leadership is unique in only one way and that is followers. Who has more right now Martin or Harper?

[rbacon]

Yah I think I will vote for the average common guy, who stands in line for healthcare like the rest of us, and he also pays taxes in Canada. And he is not the leader of a known criminal organization known as the Liberal Party of Canada. Better a common man who is honest and geeky than a known thief and crook. Vote for Stephen Harper vote for honesty.

[betsy]

His actions have shown that he cares more about getting his party into power than the best interests of Canada.

Martin's action have shown that he cares more about KEEPING his party into power than the best interest of Canada.

A few days before the election was called, he started his shopping spree for votes using taxpayers' money to fund his party's campaign....at a time when Canada was still reeling from the exposure of the Ad scandal, taxpayers money used to buy votes and suppport for the Liberal Party in Quebec!

His choices show that he would be a very bad leader for Canada and would take our country in the wrong direction.

Since the Liberals came into power, Ethics and Integrity got swept out the door!

I still remember a time when a politician, tainted with scandal or being investigated for some allegations would voluntarily step down until his name was cleared....for the sake of keeping the people's trust in our government.

Now, they're already caught and exposed...but they still won't let go of their position. They just simply say "So what!"

With all the BRAZEN corruptions and downright cronyism and shameful patronages,

we already look like a Banana Republic....a rich Banana Republic.

He defiantly imposed the will of a minority over the majority...on a moral issue.

We have tax-funded biased media that work like Propaganda machines.

Freedoms had been tampered with.

And now he is intruding into Parents' rights. Getting all these young children to be raised in a government-monitored and government-funded facility.

All these don't paint a very good future for our country. Things like these I used to read about the old Soviet Union!

He has demonstrated a type of political opportunism that is at the expense of Canada’s stability.

Yes, like when Martin suddenly openly criticized the US regarding environment issues, trying to use anti-US and anti-Bush sentiments to score point for his campaign. It was not for him to criticize since apparently, Canada had not met its own obligations regarding the environment!

Whether we hate US or not....we have to acknowledge that we do trade with them!

What was he trying to do? Why foster animosity? What was the point of his criticism against the US, if not for opportunistic political ploy to score points for the coming election.

He points the finger at others claiming to be pure and ethical. Yet his under his leadership, his own party’s actions show that he is willing to play just the same political games that he claims others are guilty of.

Yes you are right. The Liberals under Martin are no better than the Liberals under Chretien!

Chretien had the Human Resources and the Hotel Scandal. Martin have the AdScam and Income Trust Leak....and he's just halfway the first half of his tenure as PM. What else might come out of the woodworks?

Chretien had Ducross. Martin had Carolyn Parrish.....Scott Reid.....and Klander.

[scribblet]

A growing concensus of people? Really, thats not what the polls are showing, the growing concensus is that maybe liberal corruption and rot is finally sinking in to the voter's minds. Harper's actions and policies show that he cares more about Canada then the liberals have, if the liberals cared about Canadians they wouldn't be stealing our money.

[Argus]

Sorry if this is a little lengthy but like so many Canadians, I am adding my voice to the growing consensus of people who agree that we must prevent Harper from becoming the leader of our fine Country.

I have seen this posted elsewhere on the net. I wonder how many sites and groups this person is going to post this tripe.

In general, it requires little in the way of analyses to pick apart. The gist of it is Harper is unfit for office because of political opportunism. Gee, political opportunists in office, have we ever had one? There was nothing BUT political opportunism about the last several prime ministers.

But nothing is more obvious than the Liberals deliberately picking a fight with the Americans over the environment - even though the US has a better record than us - and then having Martin wrap himself in the flag and play Captain Canada ready to "defend" Canada from the evil Americans.

Who take 80% of our exports. Who we have a $7 billion monthly trade surplus with.

And gee, there was the head of the Conference Board of Canada on TV yesterday complaining that growing American anger is costing us jobs as Americans see us as more of an enemy than friend and decide not to do business with us. But what does Martin care about that if he can score a few cheap votes off anti-American bigots?

Certainly the worst example of political opportunism I've seen in a long time, in a prime minister who does not hesitate to put his own interests ahead of Canada's.

But you won't see any complaint from this individual about that.

[daniel]

...I am adding my voice to the growing consensus of people who agree that we must prevent Harper from becoming the leader of our fine Country....

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Although in this present campaign, Harper is presenting himself as a moderate with his daily announcements of Liberal policies, he isn't a person any different from what he was six months ago or ten years ago. If he were, he'd be alienating his support base or are we to believe that the people who once whole-heartedly believed in privatization, extreme budget cuts, and cancellation of social programs of the Common Sense Revolution are now embracing the Liberal-like spending policies - something they've always been opposed to until now.

[emailforcanada]

Harper has shown himself to be no better than those he point the finger at.

His actions last May showed that he badly wanted to size upon a great political opportunity. His actions showed that he believed could get into power by using the sponsorship scandal... even if meant creating additional more instability for Canada at the time. Things were bad enough and we certainly did not need any additional instability in our Government but his actions showed that he was willing to take it to the brink regardless of the ramifications to our economy, our currency or anything else. During the days when he brought everything to a halt in parliament to try to take the government down, the Canadian dollar was affected and it would have likely have turned worse had he succeeded. This would have had very negative unnecessary ramifications. Many eyes across the world were watching this carefully and foreign investors were getting jittery. It was a stupid move and a bad time and resulted in absolutely nothing positive for Canada.

Whatever his motives, his ultimate actions were definitely NOT in Canada's best interest and nothing good could have occurred in the short term even if he had succeeded. It does show the lengths Harper was willing to go and would indicate that it was more intended to prove a political point and win back his election loss last time around. It seemed like he and his top aides were so engrossed in trying to take advantage of the situation that they were completely oblivious to the effect it was having. Rest assured that the business world was watching carefully and not oblivious at all.

This was the turning point in many people's mind about Harper. On top of his willingness to risk getting Canada involved in Iraq for the wrong reason, Harper was now willing to also sacrifice the economy unnecessarily. This is why we must prevent him from becoming the prime minister. There is no room for these kinds of erroneous decisions and in this day and age of global markets there is no mercy for Governments who screw up their economy.

As it turned out we did managed (as expected) to get through to the planned election time just fine. This also further underscores the point that his timing was completely inappropriate. It was a failed attempt to seize upon a political opportunity. Even people within his own party did not support the way that he approached it.

Doing the right thing for Canada means putting the best interest of Canada ahead of your own political interests. Harper can certainly point the finger at others but he has shown by his own actions that when it comes to the crunch, he can make very poor judgments and make potentially dangerous decisions.

...I am adding my voice to the growing consensus of people who agree that we must prevent Harper from becoming the leader of our fine Country....

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Although in this present campaign, Harper is presenting himself as a moderate with his daily announcements of Liberal policies, he isn't a person any different from what he was six months ago or ten years ago. If he were, he'd be alienating his support base or are we to believe that the people who once whole-heartedly believed in privatization, extreme budget cuts, and cancellation of social programs of the Common Sense Revolution are now embracing the Liberal-like spending policies - something they've always been opposed to until now.

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[Argus]

Harper has shown himself to be no better than those he point the finger at.

On the contrary. We know they are liars, crooks and incompetents. We might only suspect Harper is.

His actions last May showed that he badly wanted to size upon a great political opportunity.

More of the same, also posted elsewhere. Harper is evil because he's a political opportunist. Though, of course, the other party leaders aren't. No, of course not.

Martin wrapping himself in the flag and risking trade war with the US in order to appease anti-American bigots isn't irresponsible at all. Nope.

[willy]

Doing the right thing for Canada means putting the best interest of Canada ahead of your own political interests.

I think that means getting rid of the corrupt government in place right now.

Gomer, HRDC, Income Trusts and check out this know info: http://www.stephentaylor.ca/archives/000505.html

Fool me once shame on me, fool me twice...

Vote Conservative or NDP, just not the Liberals. That is good for Canada.

[shoop]

Right on. Or Green or Bloc, but definitely not Liberal...

Vote Conservative or NDP, just not the Liberals. That is good for Canada.

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[fellowtraveller]

Classic Liberal crap, and a preview of what we can expect to see in the next 3 weeks.

No facts, no policy from the Liberals, just the same old blah blah blah..

Fearmongering, innuendo and scare tactics - that is what they are reduced to. This type of OP is very encouraging to those who will vote for change and hope and Canada on January 23. It encourages all of us, to see - this is all they have left in their arsenal of lies.

[daniel]

Harper has shown himself to be no better than those he point the finger at. ...

To the Conservatives, it really doesn't matter. They will not get votes from people who know or have known better. They will get votes from their core supporters even if they do flip-flop on their policies. It's always been the swing voters or others who don't follow politics as closely as we do. So just a little change in perception might do the trick - even if the Conservatives have to say anything to get elected.

[shoop]

That is what I expect to see from the Liberals. Fortunately (for anybody not supporting the Liberals), it won't work for them in this campaign. The CPC's *they'll go negative ads* are brilliant. It has put the Liberals on the defensive. The Liberals can't really go negative without a backlash.

Negative campaigning alone won't put the Liberals in front this time around. If they can't provide any sort of vision on how they will run the government they are bound for disaster.

Classic Liberal crap, and a preview of what we can expect to see in the next 3 weeks.

No facts, no policy from the Liberals, just the same old blah blah blah..

Fearmongering, innuendo and scare tactics - that is what they are reduced to.  This type of OP is very encouraging to those who will vote for change and hope and Canada on January 23.  It encourages all of us, to see - this is all they have left in their arsenal of lies.

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[PocketRocket]

Classic Liberal crap, and a preview of what we can expect to see in the next 3 weeks.

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You're right, and we'll see it, indeed already are seeing it, from both sides.

For examples of this, just go check out all the threads started by RBACON in the past couple days.

Others are doing the same, I used him(her??) as an example simply because I noticed all those Bacon posts today.

[emailforcanada]

If we had only two choices between Conservative and NDP, NDP comes out like a shining star right now in comparison. At least Layton realized the stupidity and selfish political opportunism of what Harper was trying to do back in May and obviously decided not to go along with it. That was the right thing to do and he deserve credit for doing the right thing and not going along with it.

The Conservatives are unfortunately stuck with the fact that their leader messed up and lost a great deal of credibility for their whole party by playing the very same type of political games that he accuses the Liberals of now. He demonstrated very poor judgment for this and for Iraq and should not be given a chance to get into power.

Obviously the Liberals are paying a huge price for the sponsorship scandal. There is a good deal of evidence available now to indicate that the scandal involved a few corrupt individuals in the previous Liberal party in power. If one is open to the possibility that the current Liberal party makeup is not the same as the previous, then the Liberals are also still an option. However, they clearly have a lot of work to reassure voters that this is indeed the case. We will have to see how that goes.

On the topic of the makeup. If we look of the current Conservatives versus previous... in spite of the name change there has been enormous turmoil over the last few years and the Conservatives also have a lot to do to clear up their own identity. Perhaps their choice of Harper is indicative of the fact that this party has been really struggling to figure out what it is after the merger.

I do believe that eventually this will all be sorted out and Harper will be replaced. Until then, with all due respect to the fine folks who work hard in the Conservative party, they are right now a very bad choice to lead our country.

Doing the right thing for Canada means putting the best interest of Canada ahead of your own political interests.

I think that means getting rid of the corrupt government in place right now.

Gomer, HRDC, Income Trusts and check out this know info: http://www.stephentaylor.ca/archives/000505.html

Fool me once shame on me, fool me twice...

Vote Conservative or NDP, just not the Liberals. That is good for Canada.

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[kimmy]

I have seen this posted elsewhere on the net. I wonder how many sites and groups this person is going to post this tripe.

Indeed. It, and the followup, certainly have the look of form-letters, don't they? We were told by the Globe'n'Mail and Warren Kinsella that the Young Liberals would be blitzing op-ed pages and internet message boards to get their message out. And I can't help wondering if this is the first shot of an invasion.

Sorry if this is a little lengthy but like so many Canadians, I am adding my voice to the growing consensus of people who agree that we must prevent Harper from becoming the leader of our fine Country.

You make it sound like a movement that's sweeping the country. In fact, it's not. As more and more Canadians tire of the Liberal party's act, an increasing number of people are willing to consider Harper as an alternative.

His actions last May showed that he badly wanted to size upon a great political opportunity.

(although, if this were a form letter, I assume they'd have spelled "seize" properly. Perhaps it's not...)

What's the problem? Was Trudeau a political opportunist when he backstabbed Joe Clark to sink the minority government in 1979?

As a Canadian who feels that the Liberals have got to be removed from office for the good of the country, I support Harper taking opportunities when they prevent themselves.

His actions showed that he believed could get into power by using the sponsorship scandal... even if meant creating additional more instability for Canada at the time.

What instability? Young African republics are unstable. Pakistan is unstable. South American military regimes are unstable. Canada isn't unstable.

Things were bad enough and we certainly did not need any additional instability in our Government but his actions showed that he was willing to take it to the brink regardless of the ramifications to our economy, our currency or anything else. During the days when he brought everything to a halt in parliament to try to take the government down, the Canadian dollar was affected and it would have likely have turned worse had he succeeded. This would have had very negative unnecessary ramifications. Many eyes across the world were watching this carefully and foreign investors were getting jittery. It was a stupid move and a bad time and resulted in absolutely nothing positive for Canada.

Ludicrous. "Things were bad enough"? Things were, and are, fine. The economy was, and is, tremendously strong. The notion that currency speculators are the best judge of what's good for Canada is a little troubling. The notion that a dip of a penny or two relative to the US dollar is a harbinger of economic doom is silly when you consider that just a few years ago the dollar perpetually hovered 20 cents below where it is now, and even sillier when you consider that some sectors of our economy are suffering because the exchange rate is *too high*.

This was the turning point in many people's mind about Harper.

It was only the turning point in the minds of people whose minds were already completely made up.

If we had only two choices between Conservative and NDP, NDP comes out like a shining star right now in comparison. At least Layton realized the stupidity and selfish political opportunism of what Harper was trying to do back in May and obviously decided not to go along with it. That was the right thing to do and he deserve credit for doing the right thing and not going along with it.

Layton didn't back Martin out of higher principle. Layton backed Martin because Layton was able to wring concessions from Martin, as Layton promised NDP voters he would. Layton also seized a political opportunity: the chance to get his policies into the budget in exchange for propping up Paul Martin. That's bigtime political opportunism.

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[fellowtraveller]

At least Layton realized the stupidity and selfish political opportunism of what Harper was trying to do back in May and obviously decided not to go along with it.

Nonsense.

Layton demonstrated his own grasping opportunism by supporting the Liberals and blackmailing them into spending $4.5 billion unbudgeted dollars. Many Canadians remember his support for the corrupt Liberals then, and will remember it on January 23. Want proof? Despite the golden opportunity in front of them, the NDP still cannot get beyond support similar to that enjoyed by the Bloc.

Layton may yet end up as the power broker for the Liberals or Conservatives in a minority government, but he still won't get any respect.

[shoop]

Deservedly the Liberals are paying a huge price for Adscam. Individuals in the *previous* Liberal party? wtf?

They have a lot of work to do to come up with a strategy for this campaign. They are so painfully unaware of how to run a campaign without resorting to scary-scary-scary.

They have three weeks to right the ship or Martin goes down as the *second* least successful Liberal leader in the last 120 years. (Thanks to John Turner for that one )

With Bevilacqua, Brison, Cauchon, Dryden, Ignatieff, Manley, McKenna, Stronach and Volpe all organizing leadership teams in advance of the Liberals losing power on January 23rd, it is safe to say there is more turmoil in the Liberal ranks than the Conservative ranks at this point.

Obviously the Liberals are paying a huge price for the sponsorship scandal. There is a good deal of evidence available now to indicate that the scandal involved a few corrupt individuals in the previous Liberal party in power. If one is open to the possibility that the current Liberal party makeup is not the same as the previous, then the Liberals are also still an option. However, they clearly have a lot of work to reassure voters that this is indeed the case. We will have to see how that goes.

On the topic of  the makeup. If we look of the current Conservatives versus previous... in spite of the name change there has been enormous turmoil over the last few years and the Conservatives also have a lot to do to clear up their own identity. Perhaps their choice of Harper is indicative of the fact that this party has been really struggling to figure out what it is after the merger.

I do believe that eventually this will all be sorted out and Harper will be replaced. Until then, with all due respect to the fine folks who work hard in the Conservative party, they are right now a very bad choice to lead our country.

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[ceemes]

Yah I think I will vote for the average common guy, who stands in line for healthcare like the rest of us, and he also pays taxes in Canada. And he is not the leader of a known criminal organization known as the Liberal Party of Canada. Better a common man who is honest and geeky than a known thief and crook. Vote for Stephen Harper vote for honesty.

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He is about as common as finding a diamond in a dung heap and about as honest as GWB reasons for Iraq. You want to see what Canada would be like under that greasy used car salesman, then just take a look south my friend.

[Melanie_]

And now he is intruding into Parents' rights.  Getting all these young children to be raised in a government-monitored and government-funded facility.

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Betsy, parents raise their children. Providing quality child care with some boundaries and regulations is not intruding on parents rights, it is supporting them in finding good places for their children to learn and grow while they are at work. No one is saying all children need to go to daycare; the national child care program is just hoping to ensure that those who do need the service have it available to them.