Manitoba Premier says schools should inform parents if kids want to change genders

[CdnFox]

https://tnc.news/2023/08/20/manitoba-premier-parents-genders/

Interesting.  So it's spreading. We'll see how many other provinces pick up on this.  But perhaps the most interesting part is that she's using it as an election issue claiming she's heard from parents.  So far we've been lead to believe parents aren't supportive of this kind of thing - perhaps they're more supportive than people think

[Michael Hardner]

I think that counseling in n this situation may be a good approach.

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

I think that counseling in n this situation may be a good approach.

You mean offer to meet with the parents with a councellor first to discuss it with them so it's not some shock, and help them take a healthy path forward.

Actually this is one of those rare occasions when i think you're probably 100 percent right, that IS a good idea.

[Michael Hardner]

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

You mean offer to meet with the parents with a councellor first to discuss it with them so it's not some shock, and help them take a healthy path forward.

Actually this is one of those rare occasions when i think you're probably 100 percent right, that IS a good idea.

I think that eliminating parents from the discussion because they MAY overreact is a terrible idea on its own.  The state can't raise children, it's too important.

But of course some parents might not get it.  They need to have resources to figure out how to get through it rather than be shut out by strangers.

[Queenmandy85]

The Saskatchewan government is bringing in these measures as well. Ironically, part of these measures are driven by the anti-abortionist lobby (banning planned parenthood from the schools) but over all, if you wanted to design a plan to kill children, this is the way to go. I was my department's liason with the local Pride Centre for many years. By the time a child is in their early teens, they know if they are gay, or if they are in the wrong body for their psychological gender. Unfortunately, they are often, rightly or wrongly, terrified of their parents. Too often, the burden of their situation leads to self harm. 

Offering support for gay or transgender children is not promotion of homosexuality or gender dysphoria. These are part of a person when they are born and nothing will change it. How old were we when we decided which gender identity we would like to be? Maybe it would be fun to make a choice that would result in daily sh*t -kickings at school or in the home. 

I would like to think that councelling parents would work, and in many cases, that is or would be helpful, but in the situations where it is most critical, there are some parents who would refuse to participate, and they are the ones who would place their children in the greatest danger. The decision to pursue this course must have significant input from the child before proceeding. The safety of the children takes precedence over everything else.

Edited August 23, 2023 by Queenmandy85

[Nexii]

18 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

I think that eliminating parents from the discussion because they MAY overreact is a terrible idea on its own.  The state can't raise children, it's too important.

But of course some parents might not get it.  They need to have resources to figure out how to get through it rather than be shut out by strangers.

It's just not realistic for a child to go by one gender at school and another at home. I mean you could but without new clothes, hair styling, chest 'altering' clothing, and so on, it would do very little to reduce the gender dysphoria. So to me the fabricated scenario seems like nonsense because it just doesn't play out like that.

But yea largely agree. It's the parents that ironically probably need more help than the kids in many of these cases. Schools just don't have the resources to help with everything - they have to be more of a guide than ward. In the end parents have to learn how to be supportive and give most of that support.