Trudeau Jnr in Ukraine - June 2023 - Biafra

[August1991]

On 6/14/2023 at 3:07 PM, Army Guy said:

I've been to Quebec, I talked to the people , they are all English... sorry your going to need a better source than that my friend...

Crimea is or was part of the Ukraine , end of story...

 

l live in Quebec - some of us speak English, others speak French

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Given history, our federal Canadian prime minister should not take foolish positions:

 

[August1991]

On 6/14/2023 at 3:07 PM, Army Guy said:

..just because some Russians live there or make up a huge portion of the population does not give a country the right to seize it by force...

As Trudeau Snr once asked:

"Where is Biafra?"

Edited June 16, 2023 by August1991

[myata]

I've been to Sudetes I talked to people they are German hello Adolf! Russians never change.

One has to be stupid to the core (no sorries) or lying to the core in this time and age to drop that line simply, I like this thing so it has to be mine. My precious! Gollum, gollum.

Edited June 16, 2023 by myata

[Guest]

On 6/11/2023 at 5:37 AM, August1991 said:

am angry with what you Americans are doing now in the world. 

Only angry at what they are doing now? Seriously?

Based on history alone, and this is within a century, the US, isn't in a position to morally grand stand on Russia, regarding atrocities committed.

[Guest]

On 6/11/2023 at 5:54 AM, myata said:

Trudeau is a populist authoritarian leader who seeks opportunity and attention wherever it presents itself.

Exactly.

Nothing better to deflect controversy at home, than to find a pleasant distraction where one can put their white savior complex to work in front of as many cameras as possible to drown out the deafening noise around his party in Canada.

The fact that Ukrainians look just like any Caucasian Canadian, mean the more money and camera shots he gets, the better for his ego and crumbling image.

[myata]

33 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

The fact that Ukrainians look just like any Caucasian Canadian, mean the more money and camera shots he gets, the better for his ego and crumbling image.

As said, there's every reason to face totalitarian dictators in Ukraine and eventually, run them in the corner and place under a lock. They are not there only after Ukraine but the world order based on freedom, respect of sovereignty and international law itself. There's nothing unknown about the strategy of shutting the windows and waiting it out. The aggressors will grow stronger and more bold. They'll bend many others to their will until it's you who is isolated and insecure in your little corner you thought well protected. And then you fall.

[Guest]

4 hours ago, myata said:

And then you fall.

I will be long dead before we get to that point.

Russia and China are opportunistic. Not crazy. 

Well, Russia is crazy. China is incredibly patient and calculated.

They will never take a risk that hurts their interests.

[CdnFox]

The simple fact is that russia is a hostile nation to us. They have already been aggressive in their claims over our territory in the arctic and there's no reason to think they won't continue that aggression.

Therefore, anything that weakens and diminishes them is to our advantage. It really doesn't matter how this war turns out, Canada and it's allies will be better off and the threat of further russian conquest or aggression will be vastly diminished.  It already is.

In a perfect world after a long drawn out fight Ukraine will win back most of it's territory and russia will be left with it's military in a shambles, its economy weak, and it's leadership deeply divided and regretful of ever having engaged in this war.  And Ukraine will be rearmed and positioned as a threat on the russian border that they will always have to be wary of.

that would give us decades of reduced russian threat, which also reduces china's threat, and it's quite possible russia will never recover fully from it. 

It will be the cheapest and most successful war we never fought.

It really doesnt' matter who's right or wrong or who started what.

[myata]

15 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

Well, Russia is crazy. China is incredibly patient and calculated.

Only depending on how it turns out with Russia's adventure. China has eyes on Taiwan and South China Sea. Each and every inch that aggressors take encourages and invites them to take more. We've seen it play out some many times, nothing to prove here. A fact.

17 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

They will never take a risk

Russia has just blown up a major power dam and mined a nuclear power plant. With Hitler in a tight corner, can you take any bets on what they would and wouldn't do?

[August1991]

On 6/16/2023 at 5:38 AM, Perspektiv said:

Only angry at what they are doing now? Seriously?

Based on history alone, and this is within a century, the US, isn't in a position to morally grand stand on Russia, regarding atrocities committed.

Nixon and Kissinger merely wanted a peaceful world.

Reagan admirably wanted to defeat the Soviets.

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These current people in Washingtion DC want to rule the world.

[August1991]

Some political advice from Trudeau Snr to Trudeau Jnr - like his mother:

Father: Create a counterweight.

Mother: Move against the current flow.

Edited June 18, 2023 by August1991

[myata]

9 hours ago, August1991 said:

These current people in Washingtion DC want to rule the world.

A lie, of course. A sore, stupid kind of excuse for something that can have no excuses. Hitler. Easy to check, but why bother?

When did the U.S. last invaded a neighbor without being attacked? When was the last time the U.S. occupied and annexed internationally recognized territory of other people? Easy. Simply liar.

[myata]

1. "They are Russians (Germans)" in place of: international law

2. "Civil war" instead of: a brutal and unprovoked aggression

So far so good. Should we ask our respected member if Canada should leave NATO? Another of Huylo's favorite talking points because: NATO is the greatest fear and anathema for brutal aggressive dictators anywhere in this world. Because they know, see and feel what and how can kick their dirty arses.

Let's see. Three work like a charm.

Edited June 19, 2023 by myata