Canada Has Entered A Per Capita Recession, Quality of Life Expected To Erode

[CdnFox]

https://betterdwelling.com/canada-has-entered-a-per-capita-recession-quality-of-life-expected-to-erode/

Canada Entered A Per Capita Recession At The End of Last Year

Canada’s smack dab in the middle of a GDP per capita recession. The most recent quarterly data shows a 0.9% contraction in Q4 2022, following a 0.2% drop in the previous quarter. In other words, the country is already in recession by this measure. That might explain a lot for some people.  

The OECD forecast shows Canada will have the worst GDP per capita growth of any advanced economy for a 40-year period.

Per capita recessions are how they used to more commonly measure recessions - but while one could dicker over what definition they preferred, at the end of the day Canadians know that they have less money for food and that money buys less food than it did.

I feel really bad for the generation coming up. They should have had it better than their parents and they're going to wind up having it worse in the end.

[myata]

Yes, the law of entropy: how long can you coast without change while hoping for progress and improvement in the quality of life? Dinosaurs learned too bad couldn't give a lecture.

[myata]

44 minutes ago, Contrarian said:

Additionally, it is important to question the motives behind presenting this information in a negative light and spreading fear about the future for younger generations.

Let's see how it worked out in the times of dinosaurs?

A naughty boy from the brigade to infiltrate: look the asteroid's falling! The great cloud, the Sun will go away! We may need to move, change, to adapt!

A wise fella, slowly: who are you working for boy? We had enough of these juicy leafs for us since the times of Adam and this guarantees that there will be enough for the eternity no matter what we do (or not). Stop spreading fear and go back to careless (mindless too) slumber. All is guaranteed in this life. Nothing to worry.

[myata]

15 minutes ago, Contrarian said:

a coward or fearful of change?

You're the one saying it.. maybe know something? ?

 

Edited May 12, 2023 by myata

[myata]

16 minutes ago, Contrarian said:

I have no issues with a mob against me.

Nothing to do with "mobs" only basic logic and no need to have Einstein's IQ here: if something you do (or not) has gotten you into recession and scandals, should you keep doing it and hope for a different outcome every time?

17 minutes ago, Contrarian said:

can handle them.

Said the old fella the dinosaur. A huge relief.

[myata]

1 minute ago, Contrarian said:

I vote for the other side when one side shows

How do you know they are different though? How can you know that? What if they are only sides of the same one thing, that never changes, does not have any need to change and is acutely and actively averse to any meaningful change? "Such a can of worms", the motto.

[CdnFox]

28 minutes ago, Contrarian said:

Fox, as long as you do that and resort to the conversation, not propaganda, I have no issues with a mob against me. I can handle them. 

Too bad you can't handle your booze.

And liking one comment because it was funny is hardly turning the mob against you.

Feeling a little sensitive because you acted like such an ass last night are you? We've all seen this many times before, you get drunk, you make retarded statements and make all kinds of threats, and usually the next day you're better.  For a while anyway. Nobody thinks much of it.

I'm the same guy today as i always am.  Hope you feel better.

Oh  and this is a CANADIAN POLITICAL FORUM - newspaper articles about justin are going to come up DAILY. He's the Effing prime minister. Get used to it.

Oh - and to be clear - i don't care if you have any issue with me or anyone else. You're insignificant. 

Edited May 12, 2023 by CdnFox

[CdnFox]

9 minutes ago, Contrarian said:

I am? I thought the party should care about voters as in customers.

Given your antics i woudln't put the word "thought" in the same sentence as you.

9 minutes ago, Contrarian said:

Does not matter what you do, will vote Conservative and combat you, I am the non-political force on a political forum as a hobby. Can do both. 

I'm not doing anything. Your the blow-hard attacking people and making  childish threats. Maybe stop that.

9 minutes ago, Contrarian said:

Is true that someone needs to take my access away when i go with the Whiskey, is the reason I am not in politics and people like you are.

And i think everyone here tries to be understanding. I know i'm not the only one you go after from time to time.  But - You're struggling with something. We get it. I've had family members wrestle with it too, i know it's not easy. I genuinely hope you find a way to get that monkey off your back. I'm trying not to be judgy or hold things against you myself.

That said - you need to drop the paranoid crap and at least behave better the next day when you're sober again.  Nobody is coming after you. There's no mob.  I'm not some secret agent for some political party. And it's not ok to be threatening people.  The very fact you don't get dogpiled on should be proof you've got people here who wish well for you.

9 minutes ago, Contrarian said:

You win on that one, the booze is a problem. A flaw you can use when you can't hold.

I would rather the day come when i can talk about this guy i know who had that problem and even tho it was hard he beat it. Give us that story when you get a chance.

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Contrarian said:

Not yet, my friend, Do you think my thuggery and manipulation go away just like that?

No I don't.  It's hard.  It's brutal.  It is NOT easy. And you probably wont' get there in one go, you may have a few 'slip and falls' along the way, and false starts and so on. I know this.

But I think everyone wants it to end well for you and is willing to be supportive along the way. God knows i rip people's heads off for less insult than you give when you're like that but i try to bite my tongue and not hold a grudge and i think based on what i see others are the same and they just want you to get there in the end.  So be thankful for the support such as it is.  People know it's not easy.

1 hour ago, Contrarian said:

No such things as threats, I am using the same troll antiques to survive in an environment where you thought can just come in and do what you want.

Of course it was threats. Everyone here knows it - you've done it several times in the past with other people as well that i've witnessed  - you get angry and tell people you will do something to affect their life in the real world and that is NOT ok. There's no 'Survival' here - you're in no danger of death.

As to the rest...

First off -  we can all do what we like here. As long as you're not actually breaking a law (which threatening people IS actually - and don't give me that 'i'm not threatening' nonsense - you definitely were and it is NOT the first time iv'e seen you do that to people) then what i do is my business. So if YOU have some personal rules about what people can do here that you think somehow apply to me - WRONG.

Second - the only people who can decide otherwise are those who own the board. Not you. You are not here to pretend like this is your personal platform. You are not a superhero, you are not with the avengers, you do not fight crime on the side.  If the owners of the platform have a problem with how any poster is behaving then they can address it with that person and work it out.

Finally - you do not have to read anything that other people post.   I find many of your posts are of no interest to me, i just skip over them in such cases. Often times two people are fighting on a thread and i just don't bother reading their back and forths, i just read the other posts.  It really is that easy. You don't need an 'ignore' button, you don't need to over think it. if i post something about Justin and you don't want to read about Justin then... don't read. 

Hope that clears a few things up. Now - lets just let last night go and try to move forward. But please do your best to keep that stuff to a minimum.

[CdnFox]

1 minute ago, Contrarian said:

 

I did not challenge you because I told you, conservatives must win for various reasons however, is time, basically,

I"m hoping the conservatives will win as well but that doesn't mean we can't discuss or disagree about things.

1 minute ago, Contrarian said:

what will follow is me going around the board post by post by post of yours, new ones, and will combat you without any personal references to you bully troll behavior

ROFLMAO  other than that one?

1 minute ago, Contrarian said:

and I will show the audience how weak you are, because I know you are a bully and you can't hold, I can smell weakness via computer screen.

LOL - bring it pipsqueak

1 minute ago, Contrarian said:

Some, might agree, as you remind me in thuggery to my former self. Arrogant, no room for negocations or compromise and cries like a victim about "threats" when nobody is here for you.

Dude - you threaten people. YOU would be the bully. YOU are the one who is doing "whatever they want" even to the point of breaking the law. And i wasn't the only one who told you you were threatening people. so please - if you want to discuss one point or another then fine, if you want to pick a fight bring it because you're basically a drunk little biatch and i can run circles around you without batting an eye.  And when you drink i don't even have to say anything and people realize what kind of person you are.

So - your choice. You can discuss  things, question things, challenge things which is fine - or you can pick fights. Right now you're picking fight. If that's how you want to go then fine but i've given you EVERY chance to behave like a decent person, so no crying if you force a fight and it doesn't go how you'd like .

ANd for a guy who claims that he'd like to see more rational discussion considering how youv'e behaved you are one hell of a hypocrite. Might want to think about that Brat-man.

[CdnFox]

18 minutes ago, Contrarian said:

The OP is focused on other things to try and intimidate me. A bully weakling troll engaged in stereotypical female tactics, screaming for help, what's next, reporting me to Uncle Sam via the party?! No mob yet here for you, though. Would love to make more ratings. Stay focused now, because remember although I don't like the Liberals, servants like you, from the other side: do not intimidate me. 

 ℹ️ Back to ideas.  The OP is engaging in fear-mongering tactics.

Fear-mongering is not helpful in any situation, whether it's related to politics or economics. While it's true that Canada has entered a per capita recession, it's important to understand that recessions are a normal part of the economic cycle. In fact, the country has experienced several recessions in the past and has always managed to bounce back.

It's also worth mentioning that GDP per capita is just one measure of economic performance and does not necessarily reflect the quality of life or standard of living of the population. It's important to consider other factors such as employment rates, inflation, and other factors when assessing the overall health of the economy.

Furthermore, it's important to remember that economic forecasts are just that - forecasts. They are not guarantees of what will happen in the future. While it's true that Canada is facing some economic challenges, it's also true that the country has a resilient economy and a history of overcoming adversity.

Rather than succumbing to fear and negativity, it's important to focus on solutions and ways to improve the situation. This could involve advocating for policies that promote economic growth and stability, looking for innovative solutions is the best way. That is my opinion. 

Here's a clue crybaby - if you have to "explian" any of that stuff, it's probably not happening

People know you get drunk and turn into a biatch. Turning into one sober isn't going to help your rep.

And that post shows you literaly succumb to fear and negativity.  Sorry, i didn't mean to emotionally scar you, i forgot how fragile you are  

Now did you have something interesting to say about the topic, or did you just want to whine and cry about how your feelings are hurt and having flashbacks to when they took your lunchmoney at school?

[CdnFox]

Just now, Contrarian said:

So, wait nothing about the actual post?! Still going on about my drinking. 

The first line was literally about your post.  ROFLMAO - wow - your first day on the job trying to 'teach' me and you screwed it up already Well done - your parents must be so proud

Just now, Contrarian said:

Brother, let me tell you right now, politics is your only way to make a living, playing with words, which I am learning now, is so easy to do. 

LOL - maybe you better wait till your english is better to claim that 'playing with words  is so easy' LOLOL  'Me use words goodly!!! "

Just now, Contrarian said:

Stick to politics, because in a competitive society, not even a Hod Dog would buy from you. 

Why would  a hot dog by from anyone? People buy hot dogs, not the other way around.

Ohhhhh - more of your 'easy to use words'  i see.  LOL

kid, you are about a decimal place short of an IQ big enough to play this game   But it is fun watching you squirm and dance so have at it if you like

[CdnFox]

5 hours ago, Contrarian said:

Now you are degenerating to the official troll status

You're the troll asshat. You started with the whole 'must be paid by the party" shit.

And I gave you EVERY chance to let it go and respond without being a sack of crap. But - you decided to go the sack of crap route.

Now you can't handle what you started.  Next time don't be a piece of crap, and stop being such a hyocrite.  You ACTUALLY STATED you were going to follow me around and make trouble just for the sake of it -  which of us is the troll again you degenerate?

You're the one who gets to decide if you want this to be friendly or nasty.

[CdnFox]

2 minutes ago, Contrarian said:

Not sure what your trolling is about pharisee from Mississauga Jew Rue Mississaga. Just remember, pharisee, soon I will surprise you.  Low life scum troll.

Bring it biatch. You're all talk.  The only way you're going to surprise me is by saying something intelligent or going a week sober.

Looks like you can pick fights just fine - but you sure can't take it when people fight back. Typical bully.

[CdnFox]

15 minutes ago, Contrarian said:

Ok, woman bully troll.

So i know it's just your bad "Very easy" english - but  if i'm troling you and i'm a woman bully troll that makes you the woman and the bully Engrish so eassy!!! LOLOL

15 minutes ago, Contrarian said:

People can read this thread.

Sure. And they'll realize what an asshat you arg

15 minutes ago, Contrarian said:

You have more of woman DNA troll.

Are you calling yourself a woman again?

Or are you saying that it's bad to be a woman? So you're a misogynist as well as a woman bully?

15 minutes ago, Contrarian said:

Adonai would not be proud. 

Neither would your parents.

[CdnFox]

15 minutes ago, Contrarian said:

Wait, you think a party troll Jew Rue would me back down?

Now you're calling me a Jew? LIke that would be a bad thing?  So you're an anti-semite?

Well joking aside bud - that's pretty sick. It's not ok to hate the jews. We get enough of that from AA. What, are you secretly a leftist too?

15 minutes ago, Contrarian said:

My friend, you are swimming here with the big boys. 

I'm i the kiddie pool with a toddler. You're pathetic.

Go ahead. Do what you can. You like to threaten - go ahead and lets see what you've got.

15 minutes ago, Contrarian said:

hahhahahaha low IQ bully Jew Rue troll.

Dude - if i see one more slagging of the jews i'll go to the mods. Some things are over the top.  You've got no right to be spreading hatred of jews.

[WestCanMan]

I'm gonna go off-topic for  moment here and reply to the OP:

On 5/12/2023 at 7:56 AM, CdnFox said:

The OECD forecast shows Canada will have the worst GDP per capita growth of any advanced economy for a 40-year period.

The OECD is predicting Trudeau will be PM for 40 years? Makes sense I guess. Once the internet is censored and we have to get all our news from CNN, CTV and CBC it won't matter who we vote for. 

The elections will all be declared "perfectly legitimate and secure" at 11PM on election night and CBC's hero will always win. 

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Per capita recessions are how they used to more commonly measure recessions - but while one could dicker over what definition they preferred, at the end of the day Canadians know that they have less money for food and that money buys less food than it did.

At least 55% of Canadians can actually be convinced that bugs are way cheaper now than they were back in the '80s. 

And tbh, recessions and inflation only matter if you're allowed to think that they matter. It's a mind trick, sorta. 

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I feel really bad for the generation coming up. They should have had it better than their parents and they're going to wind up having it worse in the end.

I hope that money issues are their biggest concern. Given the trajectory that we're on, that's the best that we can hope for. 

[CdnFox]

29 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

I'm gonna go off-topic for  moment here and reply to the OP:

LOL

29 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

The OECD is predicting Trudeau will be PM for 40 years? Makes sense I guess. Once the internet is censored and we have to get all our news from CNN, CTV and CBC it won't matter who we vote for. 

No they're not - but they're admitting the damage he has done simply cannot be undone easily and it will hold back Canada for 40 years at least.

That's what voting liberal has done for Canada - for 40 years even if we start doing the right things right our children will have worse quality of life than they should have had.

29 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

 

At least 55% of Canadians can actually be convinced that bugs are way cheaper now than they were back in the '80s. 

Soilent green is on sale at safeway.

29 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

And tbh, recessions and inflation only matter if you're allowed to think that they matter. It's a mind trick, sorta. 

Not for those who are affected, and that is many this time. And as usual it will be the most vunerable who are affected the most.  I own my home, have a very small mortgage, don't have a lot of debt, have a pretty low cost lifestyle and enough freezer space to buy a cow now and again and keep my meat costs very low   And i earn lots of money in a very inflation resistant industry.

You sound like you're fairly well set up as well - so you and I are barely going to feel it right now.  Sure we'll spend more than we used to buying grocieries and whine about the price of gas but my life isn't going to change.

But - for MANY people work that pays the bills is going to be harder to come by - social services will become stagnant or get cut back.

It will be noticeable and it DOES have an impact.

29 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

I hope that money issues are their biggest concern. Given the trajectory that we're on, that's the best that we can hope for. 

well fair point - but money issues tend to lead to some of those other issues you're thinking about. Crime, social fabric break down, violence.. etc

Edited May 13, 2023 by CdnFox

[WestCanMan]

15 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Soilent green is on sale at safeway.

Bugs are soooo 2022.

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Not for those who are affected, and that is many this time. And as usual it will be the most vunerable who are affected the most. 

Regardless of how hungry they are, they will be distracted by Trudeau's division and hate, and somehow conservatives will be to blame. 

"You're poor and hungry because of Christians, Jews, racism, the patriarchy, and cisgender devils. The rising cost of housing has nothing to do with mass immigration. It also has nothing to do with the rising cost of energy because no one uses energy on their farms or to process food or to get food from place to place and none of those businesses pay for electricity or gas and their employees don't have to get a raise to pay for the rising cost of their energy."

They'll believe it. Michael Hardner just said today that rising energy costs and immigration have nothing to do with poverty, and imo he's probably the smartest leftist here (that's like saying the driest fish in the sea). 

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You sound like you're fairly well set up as well - so you and I are barely going to feel it right now. 

We make a lot of money but we have high expenses as well. Big mtg too, so the interest rate hike hurts. Interest rates will go down next year because of the US federal election but we might sell before then. Not sure.

The wolf's not at the door but I'd almost rather be living in a cabin in the woods and dealing with actual wolves.

[CdnFox]

17 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Bugs are soooo 2022.

Regardless of how hungry they are, they will be distracted by Trudeau's division and hate, and somehow conservatives will be to blame. 

People have a habit and a history of putting that crap aside when they can't feed the kids.

17 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

"You're poor and hungry because of Christians, Jews, racism, the patriarchy, and cisgender devils. The rising cost of housing has nothing to do with mass immigration. It also has nothing to do with the rising cost of energy because no one uses energy on their farms or to process food or to get food from place to place and none of those businesses pay for electricity or gas and their employees don't have to get a raise to pay for the rising cost of their energy."

They'll try to sell that but two things will be clear - 1, after 9 years of it getting worse and worse and worse the libs have no answers and 2, trying anything else is better than starving.

17 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

They'll believe it. Michael Hardner just said today that rising energy costs and immigration have nothing to do with poverty, and imo he's probably the smartest leftist here (that's like saying the driest fish in the sea). 

The poor have been sold that lie for long enough that they're just not interested anymore. All they'll know is that they're starving and something has to change.

A lot of PP's support has been taken from the ndp. Younger kids today realize the leftist bullcrap ain't gonna feed them.

17 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

We make a lot of money but we have high expenses as well. Big mtg too, so the interest rate hike hurts. Interest rates will go down next year because of the US federal election but we might sell before then. Not sure.

The wolf's not at the door but I'd almost rather be living in a cabin in the woods and dealing with actual wolves.

Sorry to hear.

It's not the wolves you have to worry about. It's the bears.  And the geese. Geese are $#&(# mean.

[WestCanMan]

5 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

People have a habit and a history of putting that crap aside when they can't feed the kids.

They'll try to sell that but two things will be clear - 1, after 9 years of it getting worse and worse and worse the libs have no answers and 2, trying anything else is better than starving.

The poor have been sold that lie for long enough that they're just not interested anymore. All they'll know is that they're starving and something has to change.

Sometime they put politics aside, sometimes they fight. Anyone will fight if they're hungry enough. 

The rhetoric of Trudeau and Biden isn't about working together and getting along, it's all about "They were slavers! They committed genocide! They're racists! They're misogynists! They hate gays and transgendered!"

I don't know at what point they're gonna try to put the toothpaste back into the tube, but they can't get much worse without inciting widespread violence.

We've already seen isolated incidents of hate crimes that were incited by Demmie/CNN rhetoric, like when those people kidnapped a special needs kid and tortured him, the shooting of Steve Scalise, the assassinations of police officers, the Christmas parade car crash, etc. And that's with the vast majority of the country happy. Just imagine if you add a bit of hangriness to the equation....

 

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

The rhetoric of Trudeau and Biden isn't about working together and getting along, it's all about "They were slavers! They committed genocide! They're racists! They're misogynists! They hate gays and transgendered!"

Yep. All the 'deplorables'.  You only have to look at Americana Antifa on this board to see it in full bloom. The democrats message is a message of hate and anger.

2 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

I don't know at what point they're gonna try to put the toothpaste back into the tube, but they can't get much worse without inciting widespread violence.

You mean inciting MORE widespread violence.

2 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

We've already seen isolated incidents of hate crimes that were incited by Demmie/CNN rhetoric, like when those people kidnapped a special needs kid and tortured him, the shooting of Steve Scalise, the assassinations of police officers, the Christmas parade car crash, etc. And that's with the vast majority of the country happy. Just imagine if you add a bit of hangriness to the equation....

 

Or homelessness - which is what we're going to see when people can't afford a roof over their head any more.

[I am Groot]

Canada and other Western nations are on a suicidal road to bankruptcy and conquest by China. Their pursuit of CO2 emissions reductions at literally any cost has transferred massive wealth from their own countries to China and the third world. Their new promises to do away with the sale of gasoline-powered cars at a ridiculously early date is going to crash their auto industries and hand yet another entire industry to China, which has been using profits from relocated Western factories to modernize their military, bribe western politicians, and buy up natural resources around the world, especially rare earth minerals needed for the EV market.

They already control over 60% of battery production and that number is growing every year. They're producing a growing number of EV vehicles and will probably push aside the western automakers by supplying consumers in the west with EV cars much cheaper than can be built in the energy-expensive West. And there's only so long Western leaders can go on hiding this by borrowing vast sums of money.

China already controls most of the solar panel  and wind turbine production) consumer goods manufacturing, including everything from clothing to TVs to refrigerators, supplies most of our medicines or the raw materials that go into making them, supplies a growing number of computers and computer parts and communications devices and systems. And the West is set to hand them production of our transportation as well.

China won't need to conquer us militarily. They will only have to threaten to cut back on its supplies of goods to bring any western government to its knees. And meanwhile western leaders are frantically trying to decide on policies for pronouns and diversity.

[CdnFox]

29 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

China won't need to conquer us militarily. They will only have to threaten to cut back on its supplies of goods to bring any western government to its knees. And meanwhile western leaders are frantically trying to decide on policies for pronouns and diversity.

Nah.  If they do other sources will pop up right away. They know this. It already started to happen during covid

https://archive.ph/BHIVu

And they simply don't have any other market to sell to that would support their economy.

So if they cut production then others will pick up the shortfall, and they will go broke.

I get that there's this big fear of china right now, but honestly we can hurt them far far more than they can hurt us.

[I am Groot]

21 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Nah.  If they do other sources will pop up right away. They know this. It already started to happen during covid

https://archive.ph/BHIVu

Uh these people do not make chips that are remotely cutting edge. These chips are slow and inefficient and good only for routine tasks.

You're not going to switch to another supplier of batteries when China's are cheap and plentiful and when they control the rare earths needed (and prices charged) to battery makers outside China. China controls 80% of the market for many solar panel components. Have 'other' sources popped up in the last twenty years? No, they're disappearing.

Hell, even our own country can't produce plywood - PLYWOOD - as cheaply as China! They now have over half the market here in Canada and are growing it through dumping and harvesting wood anywhere and everywhere, as well as government subsidies. Not only can't we make manufactured or technology products now we can't even do WOOD.

21 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

And they simply don't have any other market to sell to that would support their economy.

They have a billion home grown consumers to support them. And they need not cut off everyone at once. They can just cut off Canada to make us bow (even more than we already bow) to their will. And they are in the process of buying out or running foreign competition out of business elsewhere, too.