Kyoto Champ Martin

[Leafless]

It could be seen Paul Martin is using previous democratic president Bill Clinton in partisan politics to boost the Liberals pet Kyoto project to make Kyoto an election issue in order to sway votes.

Just twenty-four hours earlier Paul Martin chastised the U.S. (Bush administration) of contradicting the world in it's refusal to sign the Kyoto protocol.

Paul Martin addressed participants in the Montreal climate change conference " To the reticent nations including the U.S., I say there is a such thing as global conscience and now is the time to listen to it."

Wow! Strong stuff for a Liberal party that has done basically nothing concerning Kyoto itself and what position is Canada in intially to bump orders around to a super-power like the U.S.

Dumb call Mr. Martin and I for one am tired of you and your Liberal party threating our fairly stable relations with the U.S. that in turn could threaten the welfare of Canadians.

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/stor...?hub=TopStories

[sharkman]

It could be seen Paul Martin is using previous democratic president Bill Clinton in partisan politics to boost the Liberals pet Kyoto project to make Kyoto an election issue in order to sway votes.

Just twenty-four hours earlier Paul Martin chastised the U.S. (Bush administration) of contradicting the world in it's refusal to sign the Kyoto protocol.

Paul Martin addressed participants in the Montreal climate change conference " To the reticent nations including the U.S., I say there is a such thing as global conscience and now is the time to listen to it."

Wow! Strong stuff for a Liberal party that has done basically nothing concerning Kyoto itself and what position is Canada in intially to bump orders around to a super-power like the U.S.

Dumb call Mr. Martin and I for one am tired of you and your Liberal party threating our fairly stable relations with the U.S. that in turn could threaten the welfare of Canadians.

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/stor...?hub=TopStories

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On Martin dropping everything for a photo op with Bill Clinton, Harper quipped," He's one president behind." TV coverage of the event was kind of funny, showing both at seperate podiums with Bill on his cell phone while Martin tried to keep things rolling.

As has been reported, the U.S. gov. actually summoned the Canadian Ambas. to tell him they found this quite objectionable. As has been mentioned elsewhere on this board, Canada's emissions have actually grown by 24% since 1990, while the U.S. has been much more successful(while staying out of Kyoto), growing by only 13%. Obviously Martin doesn't bother with things like facts when he's trying to score points with anti-american voters.

At any rate, expect at least 3 more years of being on the wrong end of trade with the U.S. regarding things like lumber tarrifs and mad cow restrictions, now making way for brand new issues the U.S. can show their displeasure with.

[Clopin]

cellphone? I think it was the translation feed when Martin spoke in French.

[Canuck E Stan]

It was really a gameboy

[Yaro]

Dumb call Mr. Martin and I for one am tired of you and your Liberal party threating our fairly stable relations with the U.S. that in turn could threaten the welfare of Canadians.

Your like this decades Monica Lewensky aren't you?

[Leafless]

Yaro

You wrote- " Your like the decades Monika Lewinsky."

This is a typical Liberal twisted response to a serious issue, namely Liberal B.S.

Care to clarify your statement?

[Montgomery Burns]

Just like Chretien, Paul Martin is an embarrassment for Canadians.

What's next?

Is he going to go on our state-run, taxpayer-funded TV station, stomp on a George Bush doll, and stab the face of the George Bush doll with a pencil like a deranged meth addict?

Oops. I forgot. Carolyn Parrish already did that.

[Guest eureka]

What threatens the welfare of Canadians is US inaction on climate change. What gives comfort to the Bush administration is the idiots in Canada and elsewhere who also either do not care about the future or are too thick to understand what is happening.

[hiti]

So why then is the USA reconsidering their position on Kyoto?

From the New York Times

U.S., Under Fire, Eases Its Stance in Climate Talks

By ANDREW C. REVKIN

The United States dropped its opposition early Saturday morning to nonbinding talks on addressing global warming.

[Montgomery Burns]

Martin is traveling the country on an old Boeing 727 which uses 1289 gallons of fuel per hour. Martin leased the Boeing 727 from Cargo Jet, from his friend who sits on the board of Cargo Jet.

Harper's campaign jet is an Airbus A320 which consumes 767 gallons of fuel per hour.

The Martin campaign's jet uses 68% more fuel than the Harper campaign's jet.

Vote liberal!

They're not hypocritical!

[hiti]

Martin is traveling the country on an old Boeing 727 which uses 1289 gallons of fuel per hour.  Martin leased the Boeing 727 from Cargo Jet, from his friend who sits on the board of Cargo Jet.

Harper's campaign jet is an Airbus A320 which consumes 767 gallons of fuel per hour.

The Martin campaign's jet uses 68% more fuel than the Harper campaign's jet.

Vote liberal! 

They're not hypocritical! 

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Vote Harper. He uses less fuel.

Oh brother.

[cybercoma]

What threatens the welfare of Canadians is US inaction on climate change. What gives comfort to the Bush administration is the idiots in Canada and elsewhere who also either do not care about the future or are too thick to understand what is happening.

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Yes. The United States is affecting change without selling out it's country to the UN. They're creating real results, instead of signing some BS agreement that will hand millions of our dollars over to other nations.

[Canuck E Stan]

Cy,

Wait for a big announcement from Martin next week when he bans pollution.

[cybercoma]

Cy,

Wait for a big announcement from Martin next week when he bans pollution.

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Maybe he'll ban the Canadian dollar from being spent in Canada, since he likes giving it away to other countries so much.

[Argus]

What threatens the welfare of Canadians is US inaction on climate change.

And OUR inaction on climate change?

[cybercoma]

What threatens the welfare of Canadians is US inaction on climate change.

And OUR inaction on climate change?

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Maybe it threatens the welfare of Americans....

[Clopin]

Maybe Martin's political faux pas was worthwhile after all:

http://politics.guardian.co.uk/green/story...1664723,00.html

[Montgomery Burns]

Maybe Martin's political faux pas was worthwhile after all:

http://politics.guardian.co.uk/green/story...1664723,00.html

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...former President Bill Clinton, in which he said that Bush's main reason for not joining Kyoto - that it would damage the US economy - was 'flat wrong'.

If true (this is the Guardian), it is just another example of what a loathsome man Clinton is. Like Jimmy Carter, he continues to attack a sitting president, which is a no-no for former presidents.

[Montgomery Burns]

Martin is traveling the country on an old Boeing 727 which uses 1289 gallons of fuel per hour.   Martin leased the Boeing 727 from Cargo Jet, from his friend who sits on the board of Cargo Jet.

Harper's campaign jet is an Airbus A320 which consumes 767 gallons of fuel per hour.

The Martin campaign's jet uses 68% more fuel than the Harper campaign's jet.

Vote liberal!  

They're not hypocritical! 

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Vote Harper. He uses less fuel.

Oh brother.

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Good grief.

Ideology is everything to these people.

[shoop]

Yeah, strange that one. Harper has proven his commitment to the environment, but it is simply shrugged off by the YL activisits trying to take over the board.

Good grief.   

Ideology is everything to these people. 

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[Yaro]

If true (this is the Guardian), it is just another example of what a loathsome man Clinton is. Like Jimmy Carter, he continues to attack a sitting president, which is a no-no for former presidents.

Says the man with the moral compass of a pit viper.

Care to clarify your statement?

Clairify what exactly? that if you spent a little less time worrying about what would offend the US and a little more about what would be good for Canada you wouldn't come off as Bush's answer toe Lewensky? Hardly that complex really.

[Leafless]

Yaro

You wrote- " Clarify what exactly? That you spend a little less time worrying about what would offend the U.S. and a little more what would be good for Canada you would come off as Bush's answer toe Lewinsky? Hardly that complex really."

Oh a Lewinsky tie, pour me another glass of tequilla Y--- lay down beside me and love me again, again you Liberal nit.

I am worried about Liberal B.S. that destroy's the good name of Canada and YES Yaro offending our good friend and neighbours with outright lies and cheap propaganda. It's bad enough Canada does not recognize it is in fact subsidizing the softwood lumber industry.

Do you know the average polluting facility in Canada produces 20% more pollution than it's counterparts in Texas or Ohio?

Do you know Ontario is one of the most polluting places anywhere?

Did you hear Martin chasitize China and India during the climate change conference in Montreal, I didn't. Did you?

Admit it Yaro you just hate the yanks and that Liberal anti- American niche just fills your bill.

[sharkman]

Clairify what exactly? that if you spent a little less time worrying about what would offend the US and a little more about what would be good for Canada you wouldn't come off as Bush's answer toe Lewensky? Hardly that complex really.

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What would be good for Canada is if Martin quit offending them every time he opens his mouth about them. It's hardly that complex really. This latest offense tops them all. Saying the Americans need to get it together regarding Kyoto when Canada's performance is actually worse than theirs. What a twit.

[newbie]

Maybe Martin's political faux pas was worthwhile after all:

http://politics.guardian.co.uk/green/story...1664723,00.html

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...former President Bill Clinton, in which he said that Bush's main reason for not joining Kyoto - that it would damage the US economy - was 'flat wrong'.

If true (this is the Guardian), it is just another example of what a loathsome man Clinton is. Like Jimmy Carter, he continues to attack a sitting president, which is a no-no for former presidents.

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Yeah, like Bush Sr. and Nixon used to do re Clinton.

[Montgomery Burns]

Maybe Martin's political faux pas was worthwhile after all:

http://politics.guardian.co.uk/green/story...1664723,00.html

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...former President Bill Clinton, in which he said that Bush's main reason for not joining Kyoto - that it would damage the US economy - was 'flat wrong'.

If true (this is the Guardian), it is just another example of what a loathsome man Clinton is. Like Jimmy Carter, he continues to attack a sitting president, which is a no-no for former presidents.

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Yeah, like Bush Sr. and Nixon used to do re Clinton.

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Sure. Everyone can recall Bush Sr. and Nixon attacking a sitting president while visiting another country.