Another Tory Tax Proposal

[August1991]

Les conservateurs fédéraux envisagent le partage du revenu parmi une série de mesures visant à soulager de leur fardeau fiscal les Canadiens «énormément surimposés», affirme leur leader, Stephen Harper.

Cette mesure constituerait une bénédiction pour les familles à revenu unique, qui pourraient réduire leurs impôts en divisant leurs revenus totaux entre les deux époux.

La Presse

I haven't seen this elsewhere but maybe the Conservatives are trying to get a jump on the Monday morning headlines.

They are suggesting that couples can divide their total income among the two partners. This would be advantageous for stay-at-home spouses and many retired couples.

[scarascar]

THE ONLY HEADLINE THE CPC IS GOING HAVE ON MONDAY IS THAT THEY ARE MIRED IN SCANDAL ONCE AGAIN

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THE ONLY HEADLINE THE cpc IS GOING HAVE ON MONDAY IS THATB THEY ARE MIRED IN SCANDAL ONCE AGAIN

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The CPC is not mired in scandal...

[sharkman]

Yah, here's another common sense approach to taxes that will take the CPC far.

[Slavik44]

This is not a simple solution it is just an underhanded attempt to introduce a friendly form of the old alliance party policy of a flat tax. If couple A, both work making $10 an hour in a dead end job they bring in a combined $40,000, this new tax sharing doesn't affect them. With couple B one person works this person makes $65,000 by splitting his taxes with his spouse he will pay taxes at the same rate as couple A. This policy also doesn't benifiet the single working mom trying to raise a family and work instead her $40,000 could possibly be taxed at a higher rate than her managers $65,000. We must take note of these inconsistencies before we priase such a policy as while it stands to help some people that deserve help it also stands to put many people at a disadvantage by punishing single working parents and maintaining the status quo for poor couples.

[sharkman]

Two things. What couple makes the exact same amount. Also $10 an hour is pretty low to be realistic isn't it?

Second, it's only early in the campaign, there will be more announcements. But I have to agree, single parents don't get any help out of this.

[scribblet]

So far its only under discussion but I like the idea, probably because it would benefit me. - Maybe this could be extended to all 'couples' e.g. people who stay home to be caregivers . Either that or raise the basic personal exemption and make it transferable to a caregiver.

Actually I like the idea of a flat tax, as long as all the loopholes are closed and all taxpayers pay up.

He (Harper) has also made it clear there is an intention to direct child care money to parents for use as they see best, rather than tie it to the use of state run daycare centres.

[scribblet]

just found the item on Choice in Daycare.

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2005/12...1338367-cp.html

Tories offer families a child-care payment of $1,200 for each child under six

OTTAWA (CP) - Conservative Leader Stephen Harper says a Tory government would give families an annual child-care payment of $1,200 for each child under six.

He's also offering $250 million in tax credits to help community groups and businesses create new day care spaces.

The $1,200 payment, called the choice in child care allowance, would be taxable in the hands of the spouse with the lower income.

[daniel]

just found the item on Choice in Daycare.

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2005/12...1338367-cp.html

Tories offer families a child-care payment of $1,200 for each child under six

 

OTTAWA (CP) - Conservative Leader Stephen Harper says a Tory government would give families an annual child-care payment of $1,200 for each child under six.

He's also offering $250 million in tax credits to help community groups and businesses create new day care spaces..

How does this compare to the Liberals' plan of universal daycare in which the Conservatives were so dead against?

The $1,200 payment, called the choice in child care allowance, would be taxable in the hands of the spouse with the lower income.

Does this help a parent decide to stay home? to hire a nanny? or to get a daycare space? Hardly. It would only ease the current pain of childcare but not impact significantly childcare options as space is currently between $600 to $1000 a month.

Guess since Ralph Klien stated the Conservatives won't win, Harper can promise anything just to look good.

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This fits perfectly inline with what the Conservatives were saying against universal daycare. There is a guaranteed cost ceiling, minimal overhead and it allows Canadian caregivers to make the choices that best serve them.

Hmmm, good way to foster the debate with the Klein comment. You sure are a smart cool guy. Any other 'zingers' while you are at it?

How does this compare to the Liberals' plan of universal daycare in which the Conservatives were so dead against?

Guess since Ralph Klien stated the Conservatives won't win, Harper can promise anything just to look good.

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[scribblet]

Quite a startling concept isn't it? Imagine parents making their own decisions on who raises their kids. To me anyone who opposes parents making their own decision can only be in favour of little state run gulags for the future masses. Something like 1984 -

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This fits perfectly inline with what the Conservatives were saying against universal daycare. There is a guaranteed cost ceiling, minimal overhead and it allows Canadian caregivers to make the choices that best serve them.

Hmmm, good way to foster the debate with the Klein comment. You sure are a smart cool guy. Any other 'zingers' while you are at it?

How does this compare to the Liberals' plan of universal daycare in which the Conservatives were so dead against?

Guess since Ralph Klien stated the Conservatives won't win, Harper can promise anything just to look good.

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Klein is just being Klein. No one can understand him here in the East (not that I've ever been West of Toronto...actually I was in California some years back...)

[sharkman]

The main problem with the Liberal daycare strategy is couples who feel so strongly that their children should be raised in their formative years by the actual parents get nothing. They already would be foregoing an entire income, but the Liberals feel only the parents who stay working and send their kids to daycare should get anything from them. Further, if the parents want to have their children looked after by another family member, they could only get cash for it if the family member opens a day care and it meets with the gov's requirements. Talk about big Brother wanting to institutionalize children away from their families.

The conservative plan, as was stated, lets the parents choose. The Liberals do not.