CdnFox Posted March 6, 2023 Report Posted March 6, 2023 https://www.burnabynow.com/local-news/burnaby-school-district-gets-unexpected-influx-of-students-from-outside-canada-6640224 This is a local paper from BC, but i've seen stories like this from many places recently. This is not an anti-immigration commentary, but it absolutely highlights the problems with our constant increasing immigration WITHOUT planning for what resources are necessary. You can have as many immigrants as you like if you've made arrangements one way or another for sufficient medical, educational and housing etc. When the resources get spread too thin, NOBODY gets the assistance they need. The feds have to smarten up and realize this is an issue. Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
myata Posted March 6, 2023 Report Posted March 6, 2023 Why would it? There's no incentive in the status quo to be smart. It worked for two centuries so should work for some more somehow. Or not, but the automatic annual rise is coming in any case. Straight out your pocket, obviously. Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
ExFlyer Posted March 6, 2023 Report Posted March 6, 2023 6 hours ago, CdnFox said: https://www.burnabynow.com/local-news/burnaby-school-district-gets-unexpected-influx-of-students-from-outside-canada-6640224 This is a local paper from BC, but i've seen stories like this from many places recently. This is not an anti-immigration commentary, but it absolutely highlights the problems with our constant increasing immigration WITHOUT planning for what resources are necessary. You can have as many immigrants as you like if you've made arrangements one way or another for sufficient medical, educational and housing etc. When the resources get spread too thin, NOBODY gets the assistance they need. The feds have to smarten up and realize this is an issue. So, where are you going to place those resources, sufficient medical services, housing etc to accommodate? Are you implying that immigrants and refugees be forced to go to the places you have planned? Quote It can be dangerous to believe things just because you want them to be true. - Sagan
herbie Posted March 6, 2023 Report Posted March 6, 2023 Quote The higher than anticipated jump in enrolment has come with a corresponding increase in provincial funding, including about $20 million more than projected for teachers and education assistants, according to Horswill, but the school district will also have to absorb some extra costs. They've had ESL in Burnaby schools for decades. They're getting funding for more. This is barely news at all, though it may seem to be for a local website or weekly advertiser paper. Quote
CdnFox Posted March 6, 2023 Author Report Posted March 6, 2023 8 hours ago, ExFlyer said: So, where are you going to place those resources, sufficient medical services, housing etc to accommodate? Are you implying that immigrants and refugees be forced to go to the places you have planned? Well i'd place some in burnaby as a start People can and will move around over time but generally you can figure out what their initial destination is. Some will change their minds and some will get there and decide over time they want to be somewhere else but as the story notes there's modelling for that which is fairly accurate. You can't say what ONE person is going to do but you can say what people will do over all. Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
CdnFox Posted March 6, 2023 Author Report Posted March 6, 2023 1 hour ago, herbie said: They've had ESL in Burnaby schools for decades. They're getting funding for more. This is barely news at all, though it may seem to be for a local website or weekly advertiser paper. It's not a question of whether or not they have it. It's a question of do they have enough spaces. And when over a thousand new students MORE than what you expected show up, that's a challenge. And what about next year? And the year after? This really is a story whether you realize it or not. The resources for these kids will become strained and if that keeps getting worse there's a price to be paid. Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
herbie Posted March 7, 2023 Report Posted March 7, 2023 (edited) Sox, I grew up in Burbaby - it's growing abot 3,000 ppl per year. If there's 1100 new kids it means most of the growth was families. That's a good thing, especially since it's a pretty high income city that can handle growth. Hell, post about Surrey if you want a valid issue with their 17.5% tax increase unless they piiddle away that $90 million that was supposed to be infrastructure Edited March 7, 2023 by herbie Florida GOP inspired word filter won't let you offend adults with words like p-i-s-s. Quote
CdnFox Posted March 7, 2023 Author Report Posted March 7, 2023 14 minutes ago, herbie said: Sox, I grew up in Burbaby - it's growing abot 3,000 ppl per year. If there's 1100 new kids it means most of the growth was families. Smurfie, it's not a question of how many it's growing. It' s a question of how much MORE it's growing than they expected and planned for. 14 minutes ago, herbie said: That's a good thing, especially since it's a pretty high income city that can handle growth. Growth is good - but surprise growth is absolutely not good at all. When that happens then you run into major shortages for all students. 14 minutes ago, herbie said: Hell, post about Surrey if you want a valid issue with their 17.5% tax increase unless they piiddle away that $90 million that was supposed to be infrastructure This really isn't about any one area. This affects a huge number of areas around the country, If growth is planned for then great, it can be dealt with. If it isn't - then really bad things happen. And safe bet those kids and their families were also not planned for in terms of medical services. That's a problem Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
herbie Posted March 7, 2023 Report Posted March 7, 2023 You are correct in your basic idea. If we're going to be bringing in half a million immigrants a year, we better be planning how to accommodate that now. Sad thing is, you and I mentioning that on an Internet forum won't DO anything. Some high muckymuck has gotta TELL the bureaucrats to plan or they won't. Quote
CdnFox Posted March 7, 2023 Author Report Posted March 7, 2023 Just now, herbie said: You are correct in your basic idea. If we're going to be bringing in half a million immigrants a year, we better be planning how to accommodate that now. Sad thing is, you and I mentioning that on an Internet forum won't DO anything. Some high muckymuck has gotta TELL the bureaucrats to plan or they won't. We are the high muckymuck .We need to vote in gov'ts that Will address this and let our politicians know this is a concern. Trudeau doesn't consider it to be an issue - throw him and the liberals out. The next liberal gov't will realize that it IS an issue and if they ignore it they can get turfed. Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
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