Slavic Civil War

[August1991]

I have my own view of Europeans and people from other continents.

Asians get along - until suddenly they decide to kill each other, like Cambodia or Pakistan/India.

South Americans have few wars - but they have dictatorships.

In North America, we had this horrendous US Civil War.

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Europe is an endless series of wars. I fear this Slavic Civil War.

Edited September 24, 2022 by August1991

[August1991]

Like Elton John, Jake Sullivan imagines that he is promoting "gay rights".

In my world, some of us are left-handed.

[August1991]

This is the foolishness of Summer 1914.

Europe is about to start another war. Pray God the rest of us don't get involved.

Edited September 24, 2022 by August1991

[August1991]

Before 1910 or so, we in the World had a wonderful life.

Once again, you Europeans are about to f** it up.

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And people say Europe is "civilised".  For f**'s sake, you can't even stop your own wars.

[August1991]

You Swedes are the worst of all. Aside from the Thirty Years War, "Not my problem".

Thatcher at least described the problem: "Europe is best when we oppose."

[Aristides]

15 hours ago, August1991 said:

Before 1910 or so, we in the World had a wonderful life.

Once again, you Europeans are about to f** it up.

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And people say Europe is "civilised".  For f**'s sake, you can't even stop your own wars.

The West, not the World. Most of the wars between 1815 and 1914 were colonial. There wasn't a single day during Victoria's reign that British troops weren't in action in some obscure part of the world.

[August1991]

On 10/10/2022 at 1:47 PM, Aristides said:

The West, not the World. Most of the wars between 1815 and 1914 were colonial. There wasn't a single day during Victoria's reign that British troops weren't in action in some obscure part of the world.

Disagree strongly.

Kissinger wrote a book/thesis about this century of peace.

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The Congress of Vienna created peace. And somehow, in the summer of 1914, it all fell apart.

In 2022, I fear that "experts" in Washington DC and California are about to do the same.  

Edited October 12, 2022 by August1991

[Aristides]

It's true that the period was relatively free of major wars. The US Civil War, Crimea and the Franco Prussia war were somewhat notable.

A little book for you.

Queen Victoria's Little Wars

Farewell has written several books on the Victorian Military, Indian Mutiny, Gurkhas, Boer War and maybe the best book on WW1 in Africa.

[August1991]

3 minutes ago, Aristides said:

It's true that the period was relatively free of major wars. The US Civil War, Crimea and the Franco Prussia war were somewhat notable.

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The US Civil War was bloody - millions killed.

But nothing like the Napoleonic Wars, the wars of 1914-1945, or the Thirty Years Wars.

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As a Canadian, I was curious about the Seven Years War (1756-1763). I wanted to see where they fought.

I quickly understood that the Plains of Abraham was a minor battle. And the battles in Saxony between Prussia and Austria were major - but minor compared to the battles of Napoleon.

When I walked through the 1812 battle outside Moscow, I realised the truth.

[August1991]

The Crimean War? Everyone against Russia.

With luck, this Civil War between Slavs will be like the Crimean War.

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Our grandchildren will remember this dispute as we think of the Cuban Missile crisis.  

Edited October 12, 2022 by August1991

[August1991]

Summer 1914

We in the West are sleep-walking to disaster.

My reference to grandchildren was ironic.

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What disturbs me most is that we could have avoided all this before, 10 years ago. I talked to these guys.

Edited October 14, 2022 by August1991

[August1991]

Several years ago, I was in Latvia and I saw a plaque showing that John Kennedy had slept there in 1939.

The problem is not 1939, or Hitler or Kennedy or, heck, Nixon. It is not the Cold War.

The problem is 1914.

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Before 1914, ordinary people had a wonderful, civilized world - true, some ships sank.

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Then idiots like Biden f^^ed it up. And the Great War started.

 

Edited October 14, 2022 by August1991

[August1991]

Obama let Putin have Crimea - as Oprah Winfrey famously and correctly said, "Don't screw it up."

IMHO, Trump should have negotiated the Donetsk for another coup in Kiev.

This is a f**k-up version of political policy. You had one job.

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Anyone who knows anything about Russia and Central Europe could have told a US President what to do.

Obama, Trump, Biden could have solved this problem - from the US voter perspective. 

Edited October 14, 2022 by August1991

[August1991]

If this turns into a Nuclear War, you won't be reading this.

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As Marco Rubio, I fear that Putin will bomb places in Poland. RussIa has already bombed western Ukraine.

Where do we draw the line?

[August1991]

Years ago,

Our FM, Lester Pearson, was talking to people. He even won a Nobel Prize.

In the early 1980s, our PM Trudeau was flying to Europe on a Peace Mission.

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Nowadays, our PM is sending more bombs for war. 

[Moonbox]

Years ago, Neville Chamberlain was following your playbook.  ?

[August1991]

Moonbox, this is not the 1930s.

It is not 1962.

It is the summer of 1914.

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Our leaders are divorced from ordinary people.