China stole the West's PPE while lying about virus

Michael Hardner · May 3, 2020

2 hours ago, New World Disorder said:

1. China uses Chinese travelers ...

No it would not be racist, that would simply be a smart move to ban Chinese citizens from entering Canada.

2. Lets see some actual elections in China and some move towards a democratic state instead of the totalitarian and authoritarian regime that currently rules China.

1. Why single out China? Lots of countries including allies have spies.

2. Again, Canada has dealt with authoritarian regimes happily in the past and in the present too. Are you new to the topic?

Argus · May 3, 2020

2 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

1. Why single out China? Lots of countries including allies have spies.

No other country has ever tried to mobilize its diaspora in Canada like China is doing. And no other hostile nation ever had the numbers of its people in Canada that China has.

WestCanMan · May 4, 2020

On 4/30/2020 at 5:01 PM, Argus said:

So even while they lied about there being person to person transmission of the virus, China was putting the word out overseas to its agents, including the "united front" members in Canada who are Canadian citizens, telling them to grab all the masks they could and ship them 'home to the motherland'. And they complied. More than two BILLION masks were shipped to China by eager and loyal members of the Chinese diaspora in Canada, the US, Australia and Europe. Then, when the West tried to order masks China upped the price fivefold and blackmailed Western governments by giving preferential treatment in ordering to governments which towed the Chinese party line. Except ours, of course, because they're still pissed about their princess Meng being stuck here.

They're slimy pieces of crap.

They were also banning travel from Hubei Province to other parts of China while they were allowing international flights to leave there, and they had the nerve to call out Trump for banning flights from China. They also got their lackeys at the WHO to diss Trump for that. They gave Trudeau a pat on the head though, for standing up to Trump's racism lol. He's so dreamy. https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/china-praises-canada-slams-u-s-over-coronavirus-response-1.4795270

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Canada was praised for not following the U.S.’ example of enacting a travel ban in light of the coronavirus outbreak by a spokesperson for China’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs on Monday.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-health-patent/china-lab-seeks-patent-on-use-of-gileads-coronavirus-treatment-idUSKBN1ZZ0RL

I'm not vouching for Reuters as a news source, but they were saying that:

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The Wuhan Institute of Virology of the China Academy of Sciences, based in the city where the outbreak is believed to have originated, said in a statement on Tuesday it applied to patent the use of Remdesivir, an antiviral drug developed by Gilead (GILD.O), to treat the virus.

The article is from Feb 4, back when I was considered a truther for saying that I though the virus came from that exact lab.

The drug's actual patent is held by an American company, so the chances that they'd allow the Chinese lab to get this patent is negligible, but it would be awesome if they did patent the drug so that Americans could just completely violate the intellectual property rights of some Chinese for once.

Also, the fact that all of this was going on while the WHO was just a big front for China is just more evidence that the WHO needs to be investigated. And by "investigated" I mean they all deserve to be shot if it's proven that they knowingly aided in the spread of the virus. That's not to say that they will be, I know that there's zero chance of that, but aiding in the spread of a pandemic is as good a reason as any to get the death penalty.

Edited May 4, 2020 by WestCanMan

WestCanMan · May 4, 2020

FWIW, Australia banned travel from China just after Trump did, so they didn't get a congratulatory call from China like Trudeau did, but they have less than 4% of our covid deaths. Less than 100 as of today.

Their population is 66% of what ours is, their country is 75% our size, so they are pretty close comp in terms of population density, and they have 1/25th the number of deaths compared to Canada.

Did I mention that I hate Trudeau? Sometimes I feel like people don't know that, and I wake up screaming.

Edited May 4, 2020 by WestCanMan

WestCanMan · May 4, 2020

2 hours ago, Argus said:

No other country has ever tried to mobilize its diaspora in Canada like China is doing. And no other hostile nation ever had the numbers of its people in Canada that China has.

I have absolute faith that what you're saying is true, for sure espionage is at the head of China's list of priorities.

A rudimentary knowledge of statistics tells us that out of tens of thousands of people that the Chinese gov't wants to control, it's an absolute certainty that some, if not many, are working diligently against Canada's best interests while they're here.

Luckily for us, Trudeau will kick Chinese ass if the need arises.

Did I say "kick"? I meant kiss. With LOTS of tongue.

New World Disorder · May 4, 2020

13 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

1. Why single out China? Lots of countries including allies have spies.

2. Again, Canada has dealt with authoritarian regimes happily in the past and in the present too. Are you new to the topic?

Because China is in the topic title? We can get into other nations for sure, but it appears the largest threat we face on this matter would be from China. If you want to slap your tinfoil hat on, there was a Chinese scientist working in a Canadian L4 lab, but was kicked out and then sent back to China along with some of the Chinese students that were with her.

And how have we dealt with authoritarian regimes in the past? Not very well. Canada can't win this battle under Trudeau. He's just another one that loves to suck up to the Chinese, as it means money. Another globalist who will always treat Canada's interests as second to the world order he bows to.

Michael Hardner · May 4, 2020

3 minutes ago, New World Disorder said:

1. Because China is in the topic title? We can get into other nations for sure, but it appears the largest threat we face on this matter would be from China.

3. And how have we dealt with authoritarian regimes in the past? Not very well. Canada can't win this battle under Trudeau. He's just another one that loves to suck up to the Chinese, as it means money.

3. Another globalist who will always treat Canada's interests as second to the world order he bows to.

1. Why single out China for what all nations do? Why single out a country as though we never ask rogue nations for capital or trade?

2. Why do you think that Harper and the others were different? He sought Chinese capital like the others.

3. I have never seen an apolitical definition of the world Globalist. If there were one, every politician and business person would qualify.

New World Disorder · May 4, 2020

4 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

1. Why single out China for what all nations do? Why single out a country as though we never ask rogue nations for capital or trade?

1 - Use the breaks to separate your thoughts. And why not single out China right now?

4 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

2. Why do you think that Harper and the others were different? He sought Chinese capital like the others.

They were not any different. It's been several governments to get us here.

Michael Hardner · May 5, 2020

9 hours ago, New World Disorder said:

And why not single out China right now?

They're not as bad as some countries we continue to trade and engage with, so why grandstand and virtue signal?

Of course we should do something but Canada has a very small amount of latitude.

eyeball · May 5, 2020

13 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

They're not as bad as some countries we continue to trade and engage with,

Not as bad but a lot more powerful thus more dangerous.

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so why grandstand and virtue signal?

Because it's the right thing to do.

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Of course we should do something but Canada has a very small amount of latitude.

So we go at it one small signal at a time. Maybe a commemorative marker honouring Li Wenliang would be nice. Across the street from the Chinese Embassy perhaps.

Michael Hardner · May 5, 2020

1 minute ago, eyeball said:

Maybe a commemorative marker honouring Li Wenliang would be nice. Across the street from the Chinese Embassy perhaps.

Sure, and Saudi Arabia actually killed a Washington Post journalist. Let's do this also.

eyeball · May 5, 2020

1 minute ago, Michael Hardner said:

Sure, and Saudi Arabia actually killed a Washington Post journalist. Let's do this also.

Hey you know me. No truck nor trade and the real McCoy, not like a Trump travel 'ban' or something.

New World Disorder · May 5, 2020

52 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

They're not as bad as some countries we continue to trade and engage with, so why grandstand and virtue signal?

Of course we should do something but Canada has a very small amount of latitude.

I don't recall any other nation having this many 'accidents' related to viruses like COVID. And are we simply going to ignore this latest failure of the communist party? Simply look at what havoc this has created globally. Every single person on this board has been affected by the CCPs failure to notify the world in time to stop a global pandemic that decimated the global economy at the same time. I'd even consider it an act of war from China. The CCP is responsible for over 200k deaths globally.

And Canada can do it, it just means some of our 'friends/allies' will think different, so we cannot be scared to go our own way. We just need to prepare for it.

Argus · May 5, 2020

21 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

They're not as bad as some countries we continue to trade and engage with, so why grandstand and virtue signal?

Who is worse? Arguably even Saudis have more freedom than the Chinese. And unlike other countries China is heavily spying on Canada, electronically, through government spies, and through its diaspora it is blackmailing to obey them. It is openly and repeatedly insulting us, uses trade as a weapon against us, takes Canadian hostages, and denies us PPE gear after having stolen ours. It is also exerting a determined effort to gain control of Canadian political parties and governments both through its influence with Chinese immigrants and through bribery and corruption. Canada has no worse enemy in the world than China.

eyeball · May 5, 2020

1 hour ago, Argus said:

Canada has no worse enemy in the world than China.

"Sorta makes Islam look pretty good, doesn’t it?"

Channeling George Bush.

Argus · May 6, 2020

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

"Sorta makes Islam look pretty good, doesn’t it?"

Channeling George Bush.

No. It just makes it an unorganized mass of anger towards the West in general, with no particular targeting of us.

eyeball · May 6, 2020

2 hours ago, Argus said:

No. It just makes it an unorganized mass of anger towards the West in general, with no particular targeting of us.

Or particular danger but look at the billions that were spent riling up that anger and then the trillions that were spent dealing with it. A disease that was worse than the disease.