Rue Posted February 5, 2020 Report Posted February 5, 2020 (edited) In your own paranoid way you do make an interesting point in that a "pandemic" would be an excellent way to false flag a police action...but I mean where do we go with that? It sounds familiar. I used to have such thoughts when I smoked dope and that is was in the prehistoric era when it was mild. I am inclined to think there is no need to do that as the cellphone has already tranquilized the masses into complete obedience if not Kanye West. Edited February 5, 2020 by Rue Quote
Guest ProudConservative Posted February 5, 2020 Report Posted February 5, 2020 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Rue said: In your own paranoid way you do make an interesting point in that a "pandemic" would be an excellent way to false flag a police action...but I mean where do we go with that? It sounds familiar. I used to have such thoughts when I smoked dope and that is was in the prehistoric era when it was mild. I am inclined to think there is no need to do that as the cellphone has already tranquilized the masses into complete obedience if not Kanye West. I'm just generally paranoid about the world right now... Not nesessary my own survival, since I don't have children... But I give a damb about future generations, and don't like where we're headed. You can say I miss being young and nieve, and not getting goosebumps... I think history is going to judge us very harshly. I'll go off on a bit of a tangent here... What if this pandemic is a hoax.... What if they are 500 000 people already infected, and only 500 deaths.... then this is no more deadly than the flu. China could be reporting on a few confirmed cases, to make it look like a 3% death rate.... You get everyone paranoid and staying inside... and this is a drill for martial law. What if Chinese releases a vaccine in a few months, but annouces new security measures... to make sure another pandemic doesn't happen again. Well China would have total control over their citizens lives, and the chinese cities could be cheering it on... not realizing they rolling over for a totalitarian regime. Canada might have no interest in creating a a bioweapon, but I could see where the Chinese would benifit. They would just have to be willing to play russian roulette with their economy... But maybe the communist Chinese have all the money in the world right now... and care more about power, then the tempory economic pain. What doesn't make sense is why there are so many deaths in China, but so few outside China. You see China building a 1000 bed hospital in 10 days... What I don't understand is why they arn't takeing $50 billion dollars... and making all the excess factories to produce Hazmat Suits to contain the virus. If you got every Chinese person weaing a Hazmat Suit, and cooking their food... They could crush this pandemic in 3 or 4 weeks. How can China be running out of facemasks... when they have robotic assembly lines... all over the country. China could make 2 billion facemasks in a few weeks... if they wanted too. All they have to do, is quicky retool a few thousand factories. I mean if your running out... Then you hold the Toy factories hostage, by gunpoint.... and force them to make medical masks and hazmat suits... and you produce them faster than you can disperse them. Right now on CBC, they are asking Canadians to donate face masks to China... This makes no sense... How can China be running out of Face Mask? They're like the easiest things to make. China could make a billion a day, if they made it a national emergency. Edited February 5, 2020 by ProudConservative Quote
Marocc Posted February 5, 2020 Report Posted February 5, 2020 2 hours ago, ProudConservative said: So is mocking a girl in a burka, by shooting a bow and arrow. What is mocking? Quote
Rue Posted February 5, 2020 Report Posted February 5, 2020 3 hours ago, ProudConservative said: I'm just generally paranoid about the world right now... Not nesessary my own survival, since I don't have children... But I give a damb about future generations, and don't like where we're headed. You can say I miss being young and nieve, and not getting goosebumps... I think history is going to judge us very harshly. I'll go off on a bit of a tangent here... What if this pandemic is a hoax.... What if they are 500 000 people already infected, and only 500 deaths.... then this is no more deadly than the flu. China could be reporting on a few confirmed cases, to make it look like a 3% death rate.... You get everyone paranoid and staying inside... and this is a drill for martial law. What if Chinese releases a vaccine in a few months, but annouces new security measures... to make sure another pandemic doesn't happen again. Well China would have total control over their citizens lives, and the chinese cities could be cheering it on... not realizing they rolling over for a totalitarian regime. Canada might have no interest in creating a a bioweapon, but I could see where the Chinese would benifit. They would just have to be willing to play russian roulette with their economy... But maybe the communist Chinese have all the money in the world right now... and care more about power, then the tempory economic pain. What doesn't make sense is why there are so many deaths in China, but so few outside China. You see China building a 1000 bed hospital in 10 days... What I don't understand is why they arn't takeing $50 billion dollars... and making all the excess factories to produce Hazmat Suits to contain the virus. If you got every Chinese person weaing a Hazmat Suit, and cooking their food... They could crush this pandemic in 3 or 4 weeks. How can China be running out of facemasks... when they have robotic assembly lines... all over the country. China could make 2 billion facemasks in a few weeks... if they wanted too. All they have to do, is quicky retool a few thousand factories. I mean if your running out... Then you hold the Toy factories hostage, by gunpoint.... and force them to make medical masks and hazmat suits... and you produce them faster than you can disperse them. Right now on CBC, they are asking Canadians to donate face masks to China... This makes no sense... How can China be running out of Face Mask? They're like the easiest things to make. China could make a billion a day, if they made it a national emergency. Its funny most people worry about nukes and terrorists, it might be a bug that wipes us all out. However stay calm. Think about it. If there was an infectious epidemic, Kim Kardashian or Lady Gaga would have spread it by now. Quote
Guest ProudConservative Posted February 6, 2020 Report Posted February 6, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, Rue said: Its funny most people worry about nukes and terrorists, it might be a bug that wipes us all out. However stay calm. Think about it. If there was an infectious epidemic, Kim Kardashian or Lady Gaga would have spread it by now. I have about 50 000 Chinese people within a 5 kilometer radius of me... I have no faith In just Trudeau banning the planes from China. You better believe, i'm a little freaked out. The last time we had a pandemic in Toronto, Jean Cretian prime did staged photo ops at Chinese resturants. Do you think Mr. Peoplekind will have any clue how to stop a pandemic in the GTA? On the bright side.... If he pisses enough people off, maybe will FINALLY be able to get rid of Justin Tredeau. https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/asians-no-sars-risk-pm-says/article1159660/ Edited February 6, 2020 by ProudConservative Quote
Guest ProudConservative Posted February 6, 2020 Report Posted February 6, 2020 (edited) S@hit is starting to hit the fans. The are the latest headlines "Coronavirus Live Updates: As China Clamps Down on Negative News, Quarantines on Land and Sea" https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/05/world/asia/coronavirus-china.html "What happens if the coronavirus outbreak becomes a pandemic?" https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2020-02-05/coronavirus-pandemic-preparations "US$675 million needed for new coronavirus preparedness and response global plan" https://www.who.int/news-room/detail/05-02-2020-us-675-million-needed-for-new-coronavirus-preparedness-and-response-global-plan "Hundreds of millions of chickens at risk of being wiped out with much of China locked down due to virus" https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/06/millions-of-chickens-at-risk-amid-china-lockdowns-due-to-coronavirus.html Coronavirus: 251 Canadians among thousands quarantined on Japanese cruise ship https://globalnews.ca/news/6509321/coronavirus-canadians-cruise-ship/ Coronavirus outbreak: World Health Organization announces most reported cases in a single day Edited February 6, 2020 by ProudConservative Quote
Marocc Posted February 6, 2020 Report Posted February 6, 2020 Don't read just the headlines. Read the articles aware that they try to affect your emotions. Adult people afraid of a flu. Quote
betsy Posted February 6, 2020 Report Posted February 6, 2020 (edited) On 2/1/2020 at 4:16 PM, ProudConservative said: I would like to start of by saying, I have mixed feelings about China All the countries of the world, seem to be Team Players... Trying to curb the spread of this virus....All their hard work goes to Vain, if Canada becomes the weakest link.... and we allow another outbreak in Toronto, like we did with the Sars virus. Since places in the GTA have more Chinese people than any place outside of China or Singapore, you think our government would be prepared for an outbreak. Thousands of Chinese people have return from China... during their new year. We really don't know who might have the virus, and not be showing any symptoms... but we do know that 2% of the confirmed cases in China have caused deaths, and 20% have becomes critially ill. How do you feel about Justin Trudeau saying "racism will not be tolerated", when he should really be telling Canadians what to do... if this thing gets worse? What Justin should be doing. is forcing all schools and businesses to send sick people home over the next 30 days, until we figure out how serious this virus is going to be. The term, RACISM, is being loosely used by media and Liberals. It is only logical to pinpoint the group (in this case, Chinese) from whom the problem is coming from. It's part of being CAUTIOUS! We don't know if Chinese living in Canada have had some contact with anyone who came from China - like one of our foreign students had his father visiting from China, two weeks ago! We can't really trust the screening process - especially so when the incubation period is 14 days! We have told our foreign students that they cannot attend a grand party for all foreign students next week. We've explained why. I have no problems with culinary cultural differences - if they like eating snakes or other stuffs that we aren't used to, why should that bother me? It's no different than us wanting to eat liver pate' or slurping down raw oysters at a bar. Having said that..... My concern is about this virus. I don't think we are being told the full picture here......not by our officials or by WHO. Maybe, they don't know much either. We can't trust the information coming out of China. Period. Though they seem to try to do something right about having these quarantined cities........ ....for one thing, China is concerned more about saving face than saving lives. That's how this regime is, that's just the way they are. It happened with SARS, why not with coronavirus? China has been urged to reveal the full extent of its Sars outbreak amid claims that true case numbers are being concealed. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/2932319.stm If this virus isn't so deadly a killer (comparing it with SARS) - why does Wuhan look like a ghost town? People seem to be so scared. They more likely know something we don't. I bet the death rate is a whole lot way higher than what we hear. Btw, the guy who died in the Philippines was said to have been recovering when suddenly, in a matter of hours - everything went south! Edited February 6, 2020 by betsy Quote
Guest ProudConservative Posted February 6, 2020 Report Posted February 6, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, betsy said: If this virus isn't so deadly a killer (comparing it with SARS) - why does Wuhan look like a ghost town? There is a epidemiologist on youtube trying to explain why this is so dangerous. You should watch this. What everyone needs to understand is the R - Naught factor. Edited February 6, 2020 by ProudConservative Quote
Guest ProudConservative Posted February 6, 2020 Report Posted February 6, 2020 Ok... so apparently Canada has delayed the rescue, to try and get the two detained Canadians out. I enjoy seeing Vassy Kapelos making the liberals look totally incompitant. I have to say, i'll kind of be Sad when the liberals lose. What will I have to B@tch about? Quote
Guest ProudConservative Posted February 6, 2020 Report Posted February 6, 2020 (edited) So it's not just Wuhan... Citiest all over china have become Ghosttowns. The Streets of Shanhai are almost completly empty. Forget 2008, The could trigger the next great depression... Especially why you have a massive chunk of the worlds population to afraid to go outside and do any shopping. How are these people going to make any money, how are these people going to eat? How is the world going to get computers and televisions from Chinese factories? You might start seeing empty shelves in best buy, if nothing can get delivered. If governments start printing money to innoculate the economy, you can expect a large chunk of your life savings to be wiped out. Edited February 6, 2020 by ProudConservative Quote
Guest ProudConservative Posted February 7, 2020 Report Posted February 7, 2020 So the cruise ship in Japan now has 61 people who have tested positive for Coronavirus. Yesturday it was only 20 people. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/coronavirus-china-live-updates/2020/02/06/104d0532-4869-11ea-8124-0ca81effcdfb_story.html Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 7, 2020 Report Posted February 7, 2020 So Canadians bumming rides on American airlift ? Nothing new about that. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Guest ProudConservative Posted February 7, 2020 Report Posted February 7, 2020 (edited) 56 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: So Canadians bumming rides on American airlift ? Nothing new about that. Well if China gets destroyed, America might becomes the worlds biggest superpower again. Who know's maybe this is a bioweapon to knock out a competitiors economy. American's couldn't beat them on manufacturing, so they're thrilled to see China go down. He're the United States Secretary of Commerce. Edited February 7, 2020 by ProudConservative Quote
Marocc Posted February 7, 2020 Report Posted February 7, 2020 On 2/5/2020 at 5:43 PM, ProudConservative said: Well China would have total control over their citizens lives, and the chinese cities could be cheering it on... not realizing they rolling over for a totalitarian regime. The Chinese people aren't cattle. They can think for themselves. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 7, 2020 Report Posted February 7, 2020 1 hour ago, ProudConservative said: Well if China gets destroyed, America might becomes the worlds biggest superpower again. Who know's maybe this is a bioweapon to knock out a competitiors economy. American's couldn't beat them on manufacturing, so they're thrilled to see China go down. He're the United States Secretary of Commerce. Sorry, but invoking American agencies won't fill in for the void and incompetence back home. China is not going down....they are going to BC. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Guest ProudConservative Posted February 7, 2020 Report Posted February 7, 2020 1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Sorry, but invoking American agencies won't fill in for the void and incompetence back home. China is not going down....they are going to BC. You know what I think. I think you're Secretary of commerce, should just keep his mouth shut, and not go around bragging about how the Coronavirus is great for the US economy, during the time of international pandemic. It put's americans in bad light, but that's just one Canadians opinion. Quote
Guest ProudConservative Posted February 7, 2020 Report Posted February 7, 2020 7 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Sorry, but invoking American agencies won't fill in for the void and incompetence back home. China is not going down....they are going to BC. You got a point Quote
betsy Posted February 7, 2020 Report Posted February 7, 2020 (edited) The Chinese doctor who was the first one to sound the alert on this virus is dead from it! He's only 34! You'd think that having found this new virus - and being a doctor - he'd have done everything to protect himself - and yet, he died! At the age of 34! Anyone is vulnerable. Edited February 7, 2020 by betsy Quote
betsy Posted February 7, 2020 Report Posted February 7, 2020 (edited) There's no use talking about how China reacts to this! We can't change that. BUT.........our leaders can do something about it................ ................................ DEPENDING ON HOW OUR LEADERS REACT TO IT! Our media does not help at all - in fact they are adding to the problem - by confusing and conflating cautious behaviours of Canadians with racism! Edited February 7, 2020 by betsy Quote
Guest ProudConservative Posted February 7, 2020 Report Posted February 7, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, betsy said: There's no use talking about how China reacts to this! We can't change that. BUT.........our leaders can do something about it! DEPENDING ON HOW OUR LEADERS REACT TO IT! Betsy, this might sound crazy, but i'm beging to think, that this is a race-based bioweapon. Why are the Chinese dying like crazy, and hardly anyone else? There're several hundred cases around the world now, only only a few deaths. There is plenty of Chinese hatred in the Trump administration. Just look at What Steve Bannon has been saying all along. That United States is in an economic war with China, and that they're doing everything they can to make it difficult for the Chinese, so America can become more powerful. The US secretary of State, just recently said that... The Chinese Communist party is the biggest threat to the world right now. The secretary of commerce said... he's looking forward to the factories being built in the United States, due to the Coronavirus. When you look at the infection and death rate in China, vs the rest of the world... The numbers don't add up. If this is a bioweapon, than the United States could already have the cure, but is waiting until the Chinese economy is distroyed before they release it to the world. If the United States did everything in the right sequence, the United States would regain control of the worlds economy. Edited February 7, 2020 by ProudConservative Quote
betsy Posted February 7, 2020 Report Posted February 7, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, ProudConservative said: Betsy, this might sound crazy, but i'm beging to think, that this is a race-based bioweapon. Why are the Chinese dying like crazy, and hardly anyone else? There are several hundred cases around the world now, only only a few deaths. We don't really know what the Chinese authorities are doing to their own citizens. How are they really dealing with it? Yeah, we see the eye-candy of building hospitals in record time, and all the quarantine stuffs. But what happens while they are quarantined? Corruption runs high too, in China. Anyway, look how they responded to the Chinese doctor (whistleblower). Basically similar to what happened to the whistleblower for SARS. China is all about looking good before the world. Saving face! I don't believe it is a "bio-weapon" to wipe out Chinese people. Quote There are several hundred cases around the world now, only only a few deaths. Exactly. It doesn't add up. China must be doing something wrong about how they deal with it. Edited February 7, 2020 by betsy Quote
Guest ProudConservative Posted February 7, 2020 Report Posted February 7, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, betsy said: We don't really know what the Chinese authorities are doing to their own citizens. How are they really dealing with it? Yeah, we see the eye-candy of building hospitals in record time, and all the quarantine stuffs. But what happens while they are quarantined? Corruption runs high too, in China. Anyway, look how they responded to the Chinese doctor (whistleblower). Basically similar to what happened to the whistleblower for SARS. China is all about looking good before the world. Saving face! I don't believe it is a "bio-weapon" to wipe out Chinese people. It doesn't add up. Have you seen the movie Inferno? This could be some rogue scientist trying to lower the human population to save the environment. There are some whistleblowers coming out, saying they found parts of the AIDS virus in the Coronavirus, and it explains why Thailand is having a fast recovery, because they're using AID's medication as treatment. For all we know this virus might be designed to cause long term damage to the immune system, as a precusor to a depopulation bug. Edited February 7, 2020 by ProudConservative Quote
betsy Posted February 7, 2020 Report Posted February 7, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, ProudConservative said: Have you seen the movie Inferno? This could be some rogue scientist trying to lower the human population to save the environment. We could make all sorts of speculations. Lol. For all we know, it was a Chinese experiment gone wrong! Where next? India? Edited February 7, 2020 by betsy Quote
Guest ProudConservative Posted February 7, 2020 Report Posted February 7, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, betsy said: We could make all sorts of speculations. Where next? India? Well it makes no sense why the death rate is so much higher in China than in the rest of the world. Edited February 7, 2020 by ProudConservative Quote
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