Internet freedom

[Cannucklehead]

Just now, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Typical canadian...worried so much about what is happening in the USA because they depend so much on American infrastructure and platforms.

No wonder canada lags so far behind other nations.

Of course I worry.  If you idiots dont stop making all these disasters we wont be able to gloat and rub it in.  We have our reputation to consider!

[bush_cheney2004]

Just now, Cannucklehead said:

Of course I worry.  If you idiots dont stop making all these disasters we wont be able to gloat and rub it in.  We have our reputation to consider!

 

We know, and it is fun to point out the cognitive dissonance.

Continue to worry, "foreigner" !

 

 

[Cannucklehead]

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-us-canada-48972327

 

5 billion buys a lot of guns and ammo.  

 

In 2014, the United States was added to Reporters Without Borders (RWB)'s list of "Enemies of the Internet", a group of countries with the highest level of Internet censorship and surveillance. RWB stated that the U.S. has "undermined confidence in the Internet and its own standards of security" and that "U.S. surveillance practices and decryption activitiesare a direct threat to investigative journalists, especially those who work with sensitive sources for whom confidentiality is paramount and who are already under pressure."^[1]

 

In June 2015, President Obama signed the USA Freedom Act into law, introducing some restrictions on the way the National Security Agency (NSA) can access information about American citizens from their phone records. 

 

Obama man bad.  Orange man good!

 

In March, Republicans in Congress passed a resolution of disapproval to overturn the FCC’s landmark broadband-privacy rules and expose internet users to spying by companies like AT&T, Comcast and Verizon.

The measure eliminated a 2016 Obama FCC ruling requiring an ISP to obtain opt-in consent from its customers before selling their private data.

In the absence of these protections, ISPs can skirt laws designed to protect private data about internet users’ health and finances. These companies can now buy and sell information on your online habits — and use this to access everything you do online without your permission. 

 

It's funny how they fined facebook 5 billion for basically the exact same thing.  

[bush_cheney2004]

11 minutes ago, Cannucklehead said:

It's funny how they fined facebook 5 billion for basically the exact same thing.  

 

Sure is "funny"....Facebook dominates Canadian social media users, most of all the other 'murican platforms:

 

 

Social network usage by brand in Canada 2019

Edited November 19, 2019 by bush_cheney2004

[Cannucklehead]

2 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Sure is "funny"....Facebook dominates Canadian social media users:

 

 

Social network usage by brand in Canada 2019

Right.  Which is basically used to talk to people you cant see on a regular basis or bully someone to death.  

[bush_cheney2004]

1 minute ago, Cannucklehead said:

Right.  Which is basically used to talk to people you cant see on a regular basis or bully someone to death.  

 

Right....so total domination by American internet / social media platforms has been normalised in Canada. 

"Internet freedom" in Canada means unfettered access to foreign (American) platforms and infrastructure.

...can't make this stuff up !

[Cannucklehead]

Just now, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Right....so total domination by American internet / social media platforms has been normalised in Canada. 

"Internet freedom" in Canada means unfettered access to foreign (American) platforms and infrastructure.

...can't make this stuff up !

No, it means I dont have to live in George Orwells nightmares.  

[bush_cheney2004]

44 minutes ago, Cannucklehead said:

No, it means I dont have to live in George Orwells nightmares.  

 

It appears that you do not have much choice, because Canada depends so much on the USA's "internet" and content:

 

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...But he said there is no doubt Canadians will notice the FCC’s roll-back on net neutrality.

This is because the internet does not exist in a bubble and a lot of Canada’s content gets routed through the U.S., Tribe said.

“A lot of our favourite sites and services are located in the U.S. and Canadian startups rely on net neutrality to get off the ground and thrive internationally,” she said.

https://globalnews.ca/news/3874357/net-neutrality-internet-canada/

 

[eyeball]

2 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

You still don't get it....Canada does not have its own "internet"...

You act as if America has its own planet. Get a grip.

[bush_cheney2004]

7 minutes ago, eyeball said:

You act as if America has its own planet. Get a grip.

 

...and you act like Canada can or will make any difference using "virtue".

Edited November 19, 2019 by bush_cheney2004

[eyeball]

14 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

...and you act like Canada can or will make any difference using "virtue".

America's completely incapable so someone will have to.

[bush_cheney2004]

Just now, eyeball said:

America's completely incapable so someone will have to.

 

....won't ever be Canada....too dependent on "incapable" America.

[eyeball]

1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

....won't ever be Canada....too dependent on "incapable" America.

Certainly won't be anyone dependent on China.

I recall when Canadian internet security experts, from the BC Justice Institute I believe, were sent to China to help with the construction of China's Great Firewall.

[bush_cheney2004]

5 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Certainly won't be anyone dependent on China.

I recall when Canadian internet security experts, from the BC Justice Institute I believe, were sent to China to help with the construction of China's Great Firewall.

 

GreatFire.org was developed to defeat Great Firewall....sites are mirrored and accessed with impunity.    UK and US governments are still using age old Radio Free Europe and Asia techniques....different medium.

China...USA...Russia....doesn't matter...'cause Canada has already picked its own fate. 

[Cannucklehead]

Indeed we did.

 

• The Supreme Court of Canada upheld a worldwide removal order requiring Google to de-index websites from its search engine that infringed on the plaintiffs’ trademark (see Content Removal).

• The government took steps to address some of the most controversial aspects of the 2015 Anti-Terrorism Act and improve oversight of intelligence activities by introducing Bill C-59 (see Surveillance, Privacy, and Anonymity).

 

 

[bush_cheney2004]

10 minutes ago, Cannucklehead said:

Indeed we did.

 

 

So ?

 

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US court thumbs its nose at Supreme Court of Canada: Google v Equustek

http://www.barrysookman.com/2018/02/18/us-court-thumbs-its-nose-at-supreme-court-of-canada-google-v-equustek/

 

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Social media giants ignore law, don’t take Canada seriously, say MPs

https://www.thestar.com/politics/federal/2019/05/12/social-media-giants-ignore-law-dont-take-canada-seriously-say-mps.html

 

[Cannucklehead]

 

From your link:

The decision sets an unfortunate precedent. Google and other large U.S. social media companies operate global platforms. While their operations are global, they often seek, as in this case, to have only the laws of the U.S. apply to their businesses.[8] They want all the benefits of carrying on business in Canada and around the world, but want to insulate themselves from liability under local laws. This is especially problematic given the increasing dominance and global reach of these large enterprises in the face of the expanding attempts of local courts and local laws to impose responsibilities on these social media giants to protect their citizens. This is something that Canada should seek to address in the new NAFTA chapter on e-commerce.

So can I come into the u.s. and choose not to follow its laws?  

[bush_cheney2004]

18 minutes ago, Cannucklehead said:

So can I come into the u.s. and choose not to follow its laws?  

 

Yes you can, but nobody forces Canadians to use American social media platforms and internet backbone.

Google also told Elections Canada to get stuffed on campaign advertising.