No Vote VS Uneducated Vote

[Moonlight Graham]

6 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

The left is impotent in government, that's all I care about, private it private, private interests which jump on board with the left as it is now, are doing themselves harm, more power to them.

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Anybody who thinks Liz Warren could get any of her commie crap enacted, is delusional, she would have to sell her base out, and then they would blame her for it

Unfortunately there's more and more commies being elected in the Democratic party.  AOC and her cohorts.  Warren or Bernie's socialist ideas may not have much of a chance now but that day is getting closer every election, it's coming...

The nonsense of the Green New Deal would never have seen the light of day 10 years ago, now it's supported by a pocket of the Democrats.  Soon enough a majority of the party would support something like it.  Good grief.

[Dougie93]

1 minute ago, Moonlight Graham said:

Unfortunately there's more and more commies being elected in the Democratic party.  AOC and her cohorts.  Warren or Bernie's socialist ideas may not have much of a chance now but that day is getting closer every election, it's coming...

The nonsense of the Green New Deal would never have seen the light of day 10 years ago, now it's supported by a pocket of the Democrats.  Soon enough a majority of the party would support something like it.  Good grief.

Doesn't bother me.  Money talks and bullshit walks, the Democommies are going nowhere.

The Democrats will remain the wilderness until they jettison their commie wing.

The only Democrat who can beat Trump, is Tulsi Gabbard maybe, and Hillary just called her a "Russian Asset", the Democrats are flailing.

[Moonlight Graham]

1 minute ago, Dougie93 said:

Doesn't bother me.  Money talks and bullshit walks, the Democommies are going nowhere.

The Democrats will remain the wilderness until they jettison their commie wing.

The only Democrat who can beat Trump, is Tulsi Gabbard maybe, and Hillary just called her a "Russian Asset", the Democrats are flailing.

Tulsi Gabbard is decent.  Biden's an idiot plus his age is showing.

[Dougie93]

43 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said:

Tulsi Gabbard is decent. 

The Democrats won't let her run.

But that is the model that gets them out of the wilderness.

They are trapped in the Blue districts, they can't win anywhere in the Red.

Tulsi is a Democrat I could vote for and my Red State buddies would also.  Tulsi Battle Angel, we love her.

It's not like we love Trump,  Trump is a cuck too, Trump was simply the means of stopping Hillary. 

[Moonlight Graham]

26 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

The Democrats won't let her run.

They did let her run, she's polled poorly though.

I like her too.  She's a badass.

[Dougie93]

3 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said:

They did let her run, she's polled poorly though.

I like her too.  She's a badass.

She polled poorly because the party is taken over by Antifa. 

If it was the Democrat Party of JFK she would win.  She's Lady JFK.

The old school Democrats are Republicans now, they lost the Blue Collars, all they have left is the SJWs

Edited October 21, 2019 by Dougie93

[Moonlight Graham]

3 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

She polled poorly because the party is taken over by Antifa. 

If it was the Democrat Party of JFK she would win.  She's Lady JFK.

The old school Democrats are Republicans now, they lost the Blue Collars, all they have left is the SJWs

The party rigs the polls?  The democrats didn't want Bernie to win and he came out of nowhere to get uncomfortably close to catching Hillary in 2016.

It's really hard to come from nowhere, especially with a bunch of popular candidates this time.

[Dougie93]

1 minute ago, Moonlight Graham said:

The party rigs the polls?  The democrats didn't want Bernie to win and he came out of nowhere to get uncomfortably close to catching Hillary in 2016.

It's really hard to come from nowhere, especially with a bunch of popular candidates this time.

They don't rig the polls, the party has simply been forced to the far left, because their traditional base went GOP when Trump stole the traditional Democrat platform.

[Dougie93]

Again, Trump is not a conservative.

He's a big government interventionist liberal.

He's just an old school liberal, pre-SJW.

The liberals in America used to be protectionist and anti immigration, to prop up the unions and industrial base.

Trump comes in and steals that for the GOP.

The Blue Collars in the Rust Belt flipped to Trump.

The Democrats have been reduced to the urban tranny commie party by default.

[Moonlight Graham]

The millennial blowhards who dominate twitter have bullied/convinced the Democrats to shift hard to the left because of all their outrage.  Meanwhile, many millennials don't even bother voting while old people come out in droves and hardly use twitter.

[Dougie93]

2 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said:

The millennial blowhards who dominate twitter have bullied/convinced the Democrats to shift hard to the left because of all their outrage.  Meanwhile, many millennials don't even bother voting while old people come out in droves and hardly use twitter.

Millennials will shift to the right as they age.  

Every generation does. 

When you are young you don't have capital, you don't own property, you don't pay much tax.

In the future, Millenials will be the OWG's and there will be a new generation of bitch whiny kids to annoy them.

 

[Moonlight Graham]

5 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

Again, Trump is not a conservative.

He's a big government interventionist liberal.

He's just an old school liberal, pre-SJW.

The liberals in America used to be protectionist and anti immigration, to prop up the unions and industrial base.

Trump comes in and steals that for the GOP.

The Blue Collars in the Rust Belt flipped to Trump.

The Democrats have been reduced to the urban tranny commie party by default.

Trump is a conservative on certain issues.  He's not a traditional republican, not a Reagan republican,  and not a neocon. "Make America Great Again" is a conservative slogan by nature, so conservative its reactionary actually, he doesn't want to conserve the status quo he wants to bring us back to "the good old days".

He has some old-school liberal leanings, pretty isolationist on defense.

[Moonlight Graham]

2 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

Millennials will shift to the right as they age.  

Every generation does. 

When you are young you don't have capital, you don't own property, you don't pay much tax.

In the future, Millenials will be the OWG's and there will be a new generation of bitch whiny kids to annoy them.

 

Agreed.  And the left keeps shifting more and more left with each generation.  As do conservatives.

[Dougie93]

2 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said:

Agreed.  And the left keeps shifting more and more left with each generation.  As do conservatives.

America itself is the left.   The right is monarchy.  The left is republicanism.  America is fundamentally liberal, it's just classically liberal.

[Dougie93]

When an American says they are conservative, that means classically liberal.  

It's to the left of Canada, which is a monarchy. 

Canada is to the left of the House of Bourbon, but the House of Windsor is still to the right of the American republic.

Progressive is not liberal at all, Progressive is a euphemism for small c communist.

[AsksWhy]

Wow! Thanks to everyone who has contributed to this thread so far. It's been interesting to read all the comments.

It's impressive how one question and a simple poll blossomed into what it did. However, now that we've gone to Gramma's house, are we ever coming back?

I'm starting to get the feeling that the original question and poll are so small picture that they are irrelevant in the grand scope. This is fine, but by not answering the question directly, I get the impression that the vote doesn't really matter at all. Is this what I am hearing? If so, why do so many people put so much energy into this strange game? Are there not better things for us to do with our time?

Edited October 22, 2019 by AsksWhy

[Dougie93]

10 minutes ago, AsksWhy said:

 Are there not better things for us to do with our time?

I'm wealthy and semi retired now, I'm just kicking back and enjoying my middle age.

I had a lot of adventures in my youth, I'm happy to take things slow and easy now.

[AsksWhy]

So the vote is just another sham?

This short read seems to agree: https://steemit.com/politics/@dwinblood/left-vs-right-democrat-vs-republican-and-the-illusion

[AsksWhy]

I'm not going to play the game anymore. No vote it is. I'm out!

Edited October 22, 2019 by AsksWhy