Trudeau test drives his smear campaign

[scribblet]

Three out of 5  top threats as identified by Canada’s Public Safety Ministry are related to Islamic Extremism. Yet our Prime Minister and Foreign Minister choose to sound the alarm only on 'alt-right' - and their definition.     2018 Public Report on  Terrorism Threat to Canada https://www.publicsafety.gc.ca/cnt/rsrcs/pblctns/pblc-rprt-trrrsm-thrt-cnd-2018/index-en.aspx#s115

[Argus]

5 minutes ago, scribblet said:

Three out of 5  top threats as identified by Canada’s Public Safety Ministry are related to Islamic Extremism. Yet our Prime Minister and Foreign Minister choose to sound the alarm only on 'alt-right' - and their definition.     2018 Public Report on  Terrorism Threat to Canada https://www.publicsafety.gc.ca/cnt/rsrcs/pblctns/pblc-rprt-trrrsm-thrt-cnd-2018/index-en.aspx#s115

Yes, in the face of ongoing attack by China through every medium but actual physical war, through the infiltration of spies, through bribing and coercion directed at Chinese expatriates living in Canada, through bribing of federal officials, through cyber attacks and espionage on both government and industry the Liberals and their paid columnists have instead created the idea of the big scary-scary white supremacist threat from the far right.

[scribblet]

Trudeau Liberals are falling in the polls right now so he will continue to claim it is because of the rise in racism and white Nationalism – of course -  if you don't vote liberal, the planet will be destroyed in 12 years and Canada will become a racist country controlled by ‘White Nationalists’  which funnily enough, barely existed until Trudeau’s fevered imagination and need to be re-elected.  

[Michael Hardner]

18 hours ago, jacee said:

Goldy loves it when the boys fight

about her. 

Wow.  It's like a high school !

I mean, in 1939 Germany.

[Michael Hardner]

16 hours ago, Argus said:

And you can see how it's fueled paranoia from the weak minds of the Left, who suddenly think white supremacists are under every bed and getting ready to take over the country.

Even if they can't actually name any white supremacist groups.

isn't the soldiers of Odin one?

 

I think a paranoid election is apt.  All the people afraid of Sharia Law and M103 can then openly strut their racist paranoia too 

[Guest]

1 minute ago, Michael Hardner said:

Wow.  It's like a high school !

I mean, in 1939 Germany.

Is Trudeau that bad?  I mean, I know he's an insufferable arse, but to compare him to Hitler at this stage of the game?

[Michael Hardner]

1 minute ago, bcsapper said:

Is Trudeau that bad?  I mean, I know he's an insufferable arse, but to compare him to Hitler at this stage of the game?

No, but he and Jughead are fighting over the White Supremacist Betty and Veronica so...

[Guest]

9 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

isn't the soldiers of Odin one?

 

I think a paranoid election is apt.  All the people afraid of Sharia Law and M103 can then openly strut their racist paranoia too 

I don't like Sharia Law.  I would suggest that doesn't make me a racist.

[Michael Hardner]

8 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

I don't like Sharia Law.  I would suggest that doesn't make me a racist.

Fascinating and beside the point.  

[DogOnPorch]

15 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

Is Trudeau that bad?  I mean, I know he's an insufferable arse, but to compare him to Hitler at this stage of the game?

 

Calling Faith Goldy a Nazi makes light of real ones...both historical and the few idiots that still actually cling to the Third Reich.

[Guest]

4 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Fascinating and beside the point.  

It seems to be exactly the point.  Where on the spectrum of disliking Sharia Law would you suggest the paranoia occurs? 

 

[Michael Hardner]

1 hour ago, bcsapper said:

It seems to be exactly the point.  Where on the spectrum of disliking Sharia Law would you suggest the paranoia occurs? 

 

Nowhere.  Stop trying to derail.

[Guest]

9 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Nowhere.  Stop trying to derail.

I'm not.  I'm just wondering where an abhorrence of a set of laws based on the whims of a fictitious being (that seem, based on recent events, to include stoning men to death for indulging in gay sex) stops being a reasonable opinion and becomes racist paranoia.

Is it the Hollywood liberals threatening to boycott luxury hotels?  Don't worry about it.  They'll just cut back on the soap and charge more for the peanuts.

[Argus]

2 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

isn't the soldiers of Odin one?

AFAIK they're anti-Islam, but have non-white members.

2 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

I think a paranoid election is apt. 

And do you think Trudeau should be working to provoke that?

[Argus]

14 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

I'm not.  I'm just wondering where an abhorrence of a set of laws based on the whims of a fictitious being (that seem, based on recent events, to include stoning men to death for indulging in gay sex) stops being a reasonable opinion and becomes racist paranoia.

Is it the Hollywood liberals threatening to boycott luxury hotels?  Don't worry about it.  They'll just cut back on the soap and charge more for the peanuts.

I think his point is we're never going to have Sharia law here. Which I agree. At least, not those aspects of it. I do not discount us having other aspects of Sharia in the way Britain does, applied by Muslims to Muslims. In the UK such decisions are even enforceable by the regular courts. 

[Guest]

5 minutes ago, Argus said:

I think his point is we're never going to have Sharia law here. Which I agree. At least, not those aspects of it. I do not discount us having other aspects of Sharia in the way Britain does, applied by Muslims to Muslims. In the UK such decisions are even enforceable by the regular courts. 

I agree, to a point.  I disagree with MH that any fear of Sharia Law, given how utterly reprehensible it is, is racist paranoia.  It seems perfectly reasonable to me.  As a Brit, I know how insidious it can be, and I am sure that there are Muslims who use it for arbitration who would like to see it expanded.  I am also quite sure that the inequities inherent in the religion itself are not left behind by Sharia arbitration procedures.

I also know there are many Muslims who are completely opposed to the idea of Sharia .  That ought to tell us something. 

[DogOnPorch]

Islam will keep pushing until religion...all of it...is for Allah. That includes filthy atheists and agnostics. 

10 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

I also know there are many Muslims who are completely opposed to the idea of Sharia .  That ought to tell us something. 

Devout Muslims are for Sharia ruling all. It's not the Oskar Schindlers you need to watch...

[Michael Hardner]

1 hour ago, Argus said:

1. AFAIK they're anti-Islam, but have non-white members.

2. And do you think Trudeau should be working to provoke that?

1. Ah, well that's a relief.

2. Not really, no.  But this is our world now.  The pro-Scheer people circulate pictures of Trudeau in a turban and say he secretly converted.  This is the way elections used to be, by the way, and we went back there.

[Guest]

47 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

Islam will keep pushing until religion...all of it...is for Allah. That includes filthy atheists and agnostics. 

Devout Muslims are for Sharia ruling all. It's not the Oskar Schindlers you need to watch...

Granted it does seem, on purely unscientific evidence, to be primarily Muslim women in the west who are against it.  I would assume that the more devout, the more in favour, along with the more favoured, the more in favour.

As for its adoption in the west, I simply don't see how we can predict it either way. 

[Michael Hardner]

1 hour ago, bcsapper said:

1.  I'm just wondering where an abhorrence of a set of laws based on the whims of a fictitious being (that seem, based on recent events, to include stoning men to death for indulging in gay sex) stops being a reasonable opinion and becomes racist paranoia.

2.  Is it the Hollywood liberals threatening to boycott luxury hotels?  Don't worry about it.  They'll just cut back on the soap and charge more for the peanuts.

1. So, I think asking you three times to not derail is fair enough.

2. I don't know what this is.  Start a new thread, I guess.

[DogOnPorch]

Trudeau recited the Shahada of Islamic faith in front of many male witnesses. In their eyes, he converted to Islam.

There is no god but Allah and Muhammad is the messenger of Allah.

لَا إِلٰهَ إِلَّا ٱلله مُحَمَّدٌ رَسُولُ ٱلله

[Guest]

 

2 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

1. So, I think asking you three times to not derail is fair enough.

2. I don't know what this is.  Start a new thread, I guess.

You said this:  All the people afraid of Sharia Law and M103 can then openly strut their racist paranoia too.

If you think being afraid of Sharia Law is racist paranoia that's your view, but disagreeing with you is not derailing the thread.

[scribblet]

It looks like the Liberal desperate orchestrated attacks calling Canadians white supremacists who oppose Trudeau appear to be backfiring  (see polls)   The unethical Liberal charlatans’ fake narrative  should offend every voter--- their race baiting, fear mongering and denigrating Canadians is their only election plan.   

[DogOnPorch]

18 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

Granted it does seem, on purely unscientific evidence, to be primarily Muslim women in the west who are against it.  I would assume that the more devout, the more in favour, along with the more favoured, the more in favour.

As for its adoption in the west, I simply don't see how we can predict it either way. 

 

We are a democracy with elections. Muslims can run for seats like anybody else. With the relatively small amount of "devout Muslims" now in Canada, we're already seeing moves to implement Sharia. Specifically motions to prohibit the criticism of Islam...M-103 and all that...which can easily move onto being the law of the land. You'll kick n' scream at first...sure. But the voters will have spoken. Keep in mind that your wonderful Mulim friends that swear to not like the Sharia might not put-up much of a fuss if other Muslims want to try...just a caveat. 

To put things on the other foot...imagine not being able to call-out Christianity for injecting itself into the school science curriculum. But...Islam is special. It backs-up its demands with violence or the veiled threat of violence. So we try not to make it angry...lest we get hit. Like an abused wife...errrr...fourth wife. 

 

Edited April 14, 2019 by DogOnPorch

[Guest]

6 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

We are a democracy with elections. Muslims can run for seats like anybody else. With the relatively small amount of "devout Muslims" now in Canada, we're already seeing moves to implement Sharia. Specifically motions to to prohibit the criticism of Islam...M-103 and all that...which can easily move onto being the law of the land. You'll kick n' scream at first...sure. But the voters will have spoken. Keep in mind that your wonderful Mulim friends that swear to not like the Sharia might not put-up much of a fuss if other Muslims want to try...just a caveat. 

To put things on the other foot...imagine not being able to call-out Christianity for injecting itself into the school science curriculum. But...Islam is special. It backs-up its demands with violence or the veiled threat of violence. So we try not to make it angry...lest we get hit. Like an abused wife...errrr...fourth wife. 

 

That's why I said that I don't see how it can be predicted either way. 

I suppose at some point we would just have to get angry, wouldn't we?  At least then, all those who think abhorrence of the idea is racist would have to get angry too. 

Let's face it, it's not as though a religious war would be a first. 

Edited April 14, 2019 by bcsapper