Leader Circle Posted August 17, 2005 Report Posted August 17, 2005 The guy had a gun according to the article. To me, if the cop said put it down and the guy didn't, that's enough to take him down in my eyes. It's a deadly weapon and nobody has the right to go waving that at anybody let alone the police.Leave it to the investigators to decide if the shooting was justified or not. Until then, I give the cop the benefit of the doubt. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> In the Yarmouth incident, he did have a gun. I have family that knows this guy and he apparently lost his marbles and started shooting the windows out of his own house. He then ran into the bush and from reports, he turned the gun on the cops and was shot. not sure of the details exactly, but if he turned a gun on them, he is gonna get shot by any cop! crazy, I am not saying all cops are bad, I just think they need to be moved around more as to prevent being corrupted. If you stay too long, you develope stereotypes for everyone you know and tend to be less/more tolerant with people. In Digby, the cop in question is a bad actor and has been there way too long. Quote Why pay money to have your family tree traced; go into politics and your opponents will do it for you. ~Author Unknown
August1991 Posted August 17, 2005 Report Posted August 17, 2005 Sorry, I just linked to the same story in Yarmouth that mirror provided at the start of this thread. The story in Digby is the taser incident: Sheldon Saulnier died outside the Digby RCMP detachment after RCMP officers used batons, pepper spray and a Taser on him.The Waldec, N.S., man was apparently trying to flee police and resisted the three officers who followed him outside to a parking lot. Officers noticed a problem after Saulnier was subdued, and called an ambulance. MacleansStrange. Quote
mirror Posted August 17, 2005 Author Report Posted August 17, 2005 Slain Terror Suspect Didn't Flee Police, Report Says (Update2) The Brazilian electrician mistaken for a suicide bomber and shot dead by police officers in the London subway didn't flee or act suspiciously as initially reported by authorities, a leaked internal report says. Jean Charles de Menezes, 27, wore a denim jacket and walked into Stockwell station in south London, stopping to pick up a newspaper moments before officers shot him seven times in the head the morning of July 22, photos and documents leaked to ITV News show. The material was in an initial report by the Independent Police Complaints Commission. The report contradicts initial statements by Metropolitan Police Commissioner Sir Ian Blair that Menezes fled police, vaulted over a turnstile and wore a padded jacket that could conceal a bomb. His death came the day after four attempted bombings on London's transport system, and after the July 7 attacks that killed 56 people, including four suicide bombers. I know this isn't per say, a Canadian news story, however there are important messages here for Canada. We can't have the heads of our police deceiving the public no matter how serious a situation we are facing. We need for our police chiefs to be honest and reliable with us. All this does is undermine our confidence in our police, and undermines their credibility in the eyes of the public. What a mess this is now that is going to have to be sorted out. Quote
mirror Posted August 18, 2005 Author Report Posted August 18, 2005 UK police "resisted" probe on Brazilian's shooting Gee, I wonder why! Quote
mirror Posted August 18, 2005 Author Report Posted August 18, 2005 Yard blocked shooting investigation, says inquiry Scotland Yard resisted an independent inquiry into the death of Jean Charles de Menezes, the innocent Brazilian shot dead by anti-terrorism police, the Independent Police Complaints Commission said this afternoon.John Wadham, the deputy chairman of the IPCC, confirmed earlier reports that Sir Ian Blair, the Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police, tried to delay the investigation into the shooting of Mr de Menezes to give priority to the force's broader anti-terrorism inquiry. Mr Wadham's comments will aggravate the growing row between the Metropolitan Police and the IPCC, which is believed to be the source of a damaging leak earlier this week, in which witness statements and photographs describing the shooting were given to ITV News. The documents suggested that a series of errors were committed by the police in the moments leading up to the killing of de Menezes. The leaked evidence also raised doubts about the way police initially characterised the shooting. Don't you ever get tired of defending the indefensible? Police are not necessarily good guys per say. Ask yourselves why someone would want to work with a gun all the time ? Police are just like any other group of people in society, comprised of the good, the bad, and the ugly. Quote
mirror Posted August 18, 2005 Author Report Posted August 18, 2005 London Police Chief under Fire London's Metropolitan Police chief is facing growing calls to resign over the shooting of an innocent Brazilian man, as reports emerged that he tried to stop an inquiry into the killing and the fallout from last month's London bombings continue. This is definitely turning out to be a major tragedy. Quote
mirror Posted August 19, 2005 Author Report Posted August 19, 2005 In Britain, allegations of police cover-up grow This is beginning to look very bad for the London police department. I wish they would just bring it all out in the open, admit their mistakes if there were any, and get it over with. This stonewalling is only going to make matters worse for the image of the police. Quote
mirror Posted August 19, 2005 Author Report Posted August 19, 2005 Ottawa to give police more power to snoop I always get a bit nervous when police are given more powers than they already have because I have a sneaking suspicion that it will be abused by the police. Police are no longer held in the high esteem they were once held so I suppose that is the reason for my concerns. Why do we need this anyways? Quote
Shady Posted August 19, 2005 Report Posted August 19, 2005 Is canada In Danger Of Becoming A Police State? The answer is an obvious no. However, there are definitely some people in this forum becoming dangerously close to a level of hyperbole never before seen in this country. Give us all a break, and try and control your obsessions with Nazism. Quote
Charles Anthony Posted June 29, 2006 Report Posted June 29, 2006 Some people jump and yell "POLICE STATE" every time the police make a mistake or whenever there is a miscarriage of justice. Some people yell "POLICE STATE" every time somebody suggests that we need to better equip or increase finance to our police and military forces. Some people stop thinking and yell "POLICE STATE" even at the thought of having a police force. Some people stop and panic every time they see a police cruiser. Some people quite comfortably walk up to police officers and ask for directions. Some people yel "We need more police on our streets!" every time their is a violent crime. What do you want (and do not want) of your police? What exactly constitutes a police state? What will make YOU cry out "POLICE STATE"? Quote We do not have time for a meeting of the flat earth society. << Où sont mes amis ? Ils sont ici, ils sont ici... >>
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