War of the Worlds U.N. Migration Compact

[TTM]

Just now, DogOnPorch said:

 

The UK...where I've had the pleasure of living-in for a time...is full of globalist shills that want the same fascist agenda you subscribe to. Some of them even speak English.

I dont think you understand the definition of fascist.  

[DogOnPorch]

Just now, TTM said:

I dont think you understand the definition of fascist.  

 

Call it anything you wish. Whatever your masters call it...that should do.

[TTM]

Just now, DogOnPorch said:

Call it anything you wish. Whatever your masters call it...that should do.

Feel free to provide any accepted definition that implies fascists are pro-immigration

Masters ... lol.  Projection?

[DogOnPorch]

15 minutes ago, TTM said:

Feel free to provide any accepted definition that implies fascists are pro-immigration

Masters ... lol.  Projection?

 

Whatever you want to call them. I know word salads are important when spreading propaganda.

Edited December 2, 2018 by DogOnPorch

[scribblet]

1 minute ago, DogOnPorch said:

Yup....if the USA isn't joining us, we should really ask ourselves why rather than saying "Orange Man Bad" and signing on the dotted line.

Not just the U.S., Austria, Italy, Hungary https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/20/australia/united-nations-migration-pact-intl/index.html   not sure about Japan, wonder if they will agree to it.

and yet the EU can criticize of course because it falls in with their open borders policy

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/nov/01/austria-criticised-not-signing-un-global-migration-compact-european-commission

[TTM]

Just now, DogOnPorch said:

 

Whatever you want call them. I know word salads are important when spreading propaganda.

Understanding the meaning of words is important if you want to actually have a rational conversation

[DogOnPorch]

Just now, scribblet said:

Not just the U.S., Austria, Italy, Hungary https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/20/australia/united-nations-migration-pact-intl/index.html   not sure about Japan, wonder if they will agree to it.

and yet the EU can criticize of course because it falls in with their open borders policy

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/nov/01/austria-criticised-not-signing-un-global-migration-compact-european-commission

 

There's no way Japan will commit seppuku over this wee plan. They've got some brains. 

[Argus]

Nothing will prevent Trudeau's enthusiastic support for such a commitment. But commitments can be broken by the next government. The current amount is already damaging support for immigration and the refugee system, with growing majorities opposing them. And if the amount of refugees coming into Canada increases significantly his government will be in real trouble. Unfortunately, that likely won't happen until AFTER the coming election, which he is likely to win.

[TTM]

20 minutes ago, scribblet said:

Not just the U.S., Austria, Italy, Hungary ... not sure about Japan, wonder if they will agree to it.

US: Trump

Austria: The current government of Austria is a coalition government formed by the center-right Austrian People's Party (ÖVP) and the far-right Freedom Party of Austria (FPÖ).

Italy: Unstable coalition gov't where one of the major (and fastest rising) parties is Lega Nord which has: embraced Italian nationalism and emphasised Euroscepticism, opposition to immigration and other "populist" policies while forming an alliance with right-wing populist parties such as France's National Front, the Netherlands' Party for Freedom and the Freedom Party of Austria at the European level. 

Hungary: Fidesz – Hungarian Civic Alliance (Hungarian pronunciation: [ˈfidɛs]; in full, Hungarian: Fidesz – Magyar Polgári Szövetség) is a national-conservative[3][4][5] and right-wing populist[5][4][9] political party in Hungary. It has dominated Hungarian politics on the national and local level since its landslide victory in the 2010 national elections

So, opposition by right-wing populist governments (read anti-immigrant) and possibly Japan (historically anti-immigration)

[DogOnPorch]

Orange man bad! So we'll do the exact opposite of the USA.

That'll show 'em.

[TTM]

2 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

Orange man bad! So we'll do the exact opposite of the USA.

That'll show 'em.

Not good or bad.  One of the most significant factors in Trump getting elected was his anti-immigrant rhetoric.  So it stands to reason he wouldn't sign a document protective of their rights regardless; his opposition is of minimal use in judging its actual utility

 

[DogOnPorch]

4 minutes ago, TTM said:

Not good or bad.  One of the most significant factors in Trump getting elected was his anti-immigrant rhetoric.  So it stands to reason he wouldn't sign a document protective of their rights regardless; his opposition is of minimal use in judging its actual utility

 

 

No shit.

No sane country would hand over their border to the UN. 

That you think it's a good idea is immaterial.

[TTM]

Just now, DogOnPorch said:

 

No shit.

No sane country would hand over their border to the UN. 

That you think it's a good idea is immaterial.

That is not happening, so that would be a red herring

[DogOnPorch]

1 minute ago, TTM said:

That is not happening, so that would be a red herring

 

Says the shill for the project...

[TTM]

1 minute ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

Says the shill for the project...

 Bulverism, appeal to motive 

[DogOnPorch]

1 minute ago, TTM said:

 Bulverism, appeal to motive 

 

More you claiming shit is chocolate.

[TTM]

6 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

More you claiming shit is chocolate.

In just a few posts on this topic you have "accidentally" misdefined a charged term, and done little but throw out red herrings and ad hominems. Sad.

Edited December 2, 2018 by TTM

[DogOnPorch]

6 minutes ago, TTM said:

In just a few posts on this topic you have "accidentally" misdefined a charged term, and done little but throw out red herrings and ad hominems. Sad.

 

Shit smells.

And this smells bad.

[TTM]

17 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

Shit smells.

And this smells bad.

"I dont like this, but cannot formulate valid reasons as to why" cast as an appeal to truthiness.

Not much of an argument, but appealing to some.

Edited December 2, 2018 by TTM

[scribblet]

30 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

Shit smells.

And this smells bad.

If it walks like a duck, looks like a duck......

[dialamah]

1 hour ago, DogOnPorch said:

I know word salads are important when spreading propaganda.

Wow!  That explains so many of your posts!

[TTM]

4 minutes ago, scribblet said:

If it walks like a duck, looks like a duck......

Peasants: We have found a witch! (A witch! a witch!)
Burn her burn her!

Peasant 1: We have found a witch, may we burn her?
(cheers)
Vladimir: How do you known she is a witch?
P2: She looks like one!
V: Bring her forward
(advance)
Woman: I'm not a witch! I'm not a witch!
V: ehh... but you are dressed like one.
W: They dressed me up like this!
All: naah no we didn't... no.
W: And this isn't my nose, it's a false one.
(V lifts up carrot)
V: Well?
P1: Well we did do the nose
V: The nose?
P1: ...And the hat, but she is a witch!
(all: yeah, burn her burn her!)
V: Did you dress her up like this?
P1: No! (no no... no) Yes. (yes yeah) a bit (a bit bit a bit) But she has got a wart!
(P3 points at wart)
V: What makes you think she is a witch?
P2: Well, she turned me into a newt!
V: A newt?!
(P2 pause & look around)
P2: I got better.
(pause)
P3: Burn her anyway! (burn her burn her burn!)
(king walks in)
V: There are ways of telling whether she is a witch.
P1: Are there? Well then tell us! (tell us)
V: Tell me... what do you do with witches?
P3: Burn'em! Burn them up! (burn burn burn)
V: What do you burn apart from witches?
P1: More witches! (P2 nudge P1)
(pause)
P3: Wood!
V: So, why do witches burn?
(long pause)
P2: Cuz they're made of... wood?
V: Gooood.
(crowd congratulates P2)
V: So, how do we tell if she is made of wood?
P1: Build a bridge out of her!
V: Ahh, but can you not also make bridges out of stone?
P1: Oh yeah...
V: Does wood sink in water?
P1: No
P3: No. It floats!
P1: Let's throw her into the bog! (yeah yeah ya!)
V: What also floats in water?
P1: Bread
P3: Apples
P2: Very small rocks
(V looks annoyed)
P1: Cider
P3: Grape gravy
P1: Cherries
P3: Mud
King: A Duck!
(all look and stare at king)
V: Exactly! So, logically...
P1(thinking): If she weighs the same as a duck... she's made of wood!
V: And therefore,
(pause & think)
P3: A witch! (P1: a witch)(P2: a witch)(all: a witch!)

Edited December 2, 2018 by TTM

[Guest]

29 minutes ago, TTM said:

Peasants: We have found a witch! (A witch! a witch!)
Burn her burn her!

Peasant 1: We have found a witch, may we burn her?
(cheers)
Vladimir: How do you known she is a witch?
P2: She looks like one!
V: Bring her forward
(advance)
Woman: I'm not a witch! I'm not a witch!
V: ehh... but you are dressed like one.
W: They dressed me up like this!
All: naah no we didn't... no.
W: And this isn't my nose, it's a false one.
(V lifts up carrot)
V: Well?
P1: Well we did do the nose
V: The nose?
P1: ...And the hat, but she is a witch!
(all: yeah, burn her burn her!)
V: Did you dress her up like this?
P1: No! (no no... no) Yes. (yes yeah) a bit (a bit bit a bit) But she has got a wart!
(P3 points at wart)
V: What makes you think she is a witch?
P2: Well, she turned me into a newt!
V: A newt?!
(P2 pause & look around)
P2: I got better.
(pause)
P3: Burn her anyway! (burn her burn her burn!)
(king walks in)
V: There are ways of telling whether she is a witch.
P1: Are there? Well then tell us! (tell us)
V: Tell me... what do you do with witches?
P3: Burn'em! Burn them up! (burn burn burn)
V: What do you burn apart from witches?
P1: More witches! (P2 nudge P1)
(pause)
P3: Wood!
V: So, why do witches burn?
(long pause)
P2: Cuz they're made of... wood?
V: Gooood.
(crowd congratulates P2)
V: So, how do we tell if she is made of wood?
P1: Build a bridge out of her!
V: Ahh, but can you not also make bridges out of stone?
P1: Oh yeah...
V: Does wood sink in water?
P1: No
P3: No. It floats!
P1: Let's throw her into the bog! (yeah yeah ya!)
V: What also floats in water?
P1: Bread
P3: Apples
P2: Very small rocks
(V looks annoyed)
P1: Cider
P3: Grape gravy
P1: Cherries
P3: Mud
King: A Duck!
(all look and stare at king)
V: Exactly! So, logically...
P1(thinking): If she weighs the same as a duck... she's made of wood!
V: And therefore,
(pause & think)
P3: A witch! (P1: a witch)(P2: a witch)(all: a witch!)

Usually one just says "she turned me into a newt!"

Same message, fewer words.

I assume you think those who would limit free expression regarding views on immigrants and migration are on some kind of witch hunt?

[TTM]

2 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

Usually one just says "she turned me into a newt!"

Same message, fewer words.

Assumes they are familiar with the sketch. If I could assume that, I would have abbreviated it to "if she weighs the same as a duck..."

16 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

I assume you think those who would limit free expression regarding views on immigrants and migration are on some kind of witch hunt?

The sketch pokes fun at people using preconceived notions, falsly dressing up the facts, and and using faulty logic in coming to conclusions.  I thought it fit.

Free expression regarding immigration is protected, as it should be. Hate speech regarding immigrants is not, and should not be.  Nothing in this non-binding UN pact changes that

[DogOnPorch]

11 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

Usually one just says "she turned me into a newt!"

Same message, fewer words.

I assume you think those who would limit free expression regarding views on immigrants and migration are on some kind of witch hunt?

 

-Are you the poet?

-Yes...

-I used to admire your poetry.

-Thank-you.

-I shouldn't admire it now. I should find it absurdly personal. Don't you agree? Feelings, insights, affections...it's suddenly trivial now. You don't agree. You're wrong. The personal life is dead in Russia. History has killed it. I can see how you might hate me...