Altai Posted October 12, 2017 Report Posted October 12, 2017 (edited) What happens ? You know we recently had a coup attempt experiment and there are thousands of proofs that this attempt is done by first US and secondly some other Western countries. I want to touch a recent issue; - Its revealed that two US agents who is working in US Embassy in Turkiye involved in the coup attempt. - One of them is caught alive by security forces and detained. - Other one is still hiding in the embassy building, his family members are detained. - Then US banned all the visa applications for Turkiye as a response. - Then Turkiye banned all the visas for US, as response for US' visa ban. - US' Turkiye envoy said that detention of their workers is worrying. - These two agents dont even have their names in legal documents, so they are ghost workers. - Then US foreign ministry spokesman said that their agent is not even allowed to have a lawyer. - Turkiye put the documents on the table that his two lawyers were always with him during all the legal actions. - Then US' Turkiye envoy said that "Turkiye did not have any ISIS attacks since last 9 months and this was because of we had cooperation." - Then US defence minister said that "We will keep working with Turkiye." - Turkish prime ministry spokesman said that "What do you mean by saying there is no ISIS attacks since long ?" after US officials threatens Turkiye with ISIS attacks. - US envoy said that visa ban was his decision. - Turkish President Erdogan said that "We dont accept this envoy as the representative of US". Seem like this story will continue, I will update it. Link added: http://bit.ly/2ziraJc Edited October 12, 2017 by Altai Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror
Altai Posted October 12, 2017 Author Report Posted October 12, 2017 - US foreign ministry spokesman said "We want detained guy to be allowed to meet with his lawyers." - Turkish officials said detained guys themselves reject to meet with their lawyers. Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror
Altai Posted October 12, 2017 Author Report Posted October 12, 2017 - US officials wants CIA agents to be released. Another CIA agent who is working as a teacher in Turkish Bilgi Universty have been revealed that had at least 20 phone conversation with ISIS suicide bomber who was attacked to a group of tourists in Sultan Ahmad Square and murdered 10 tourists. Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror
Altai Posted October 12, 2017 Author Report Posted October 12, 2017 President Erdogan about visa crisis; "We dont need US. Turkish polices wont use US made Sig Sauer pistols, they will use Turkish made Canik pistols." Note: Canik pistols receives 2017 Best Handgun award in US. Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror
Altai Posted October 12, 2017 Author Report Posted October 12, 2017 - US decided to send a committee to Turkiye to made a meeting about visa crisis. Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror
Omni Posted October 12, 2017 Report Posted October 12, 2017 26 minutes ago, Altai said: - US decided to send a committee to Turkiye to made a meeting about visa crisis. Perhaps they can explain to Erdogan what a democracy is, although he probably already knows but prefers his dictatorship. Quote
hot enough Posted October 13, 2017 Report Posted October 13, 2017 4 hours ago, Omni said: Perhaps they can explain to Erdogan what a democracy is, although he probably already knows but prefers his dictatorship. Stop your silly hypocrisy, Omni. It's the USA that doesn't have a fucking clue what democracy is, what with its always vicious, right wing dictatorships. Canada too, and the Brits, with that old cow signing her name to all manner of war crimes and terrorism. Quote
Altai Posted October 13, 2017 Author Report Posted October 13, 2017 President Erdogan pointed US and said; "The hypocrisy of some of our allies are quite disturbing. They talk different to our face but they act different behind us. They are not able to hide their betrayal and their dirty game anymore. We will never forget the countries who try to trip up us. Our spears cannot stay in sacks anymore." Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror
Altai Posted October 18, 2017 Author Report Posted October 18, 2017 (edited) US committee arrived Turkiye. They had a meeting with Turkish officials and they offered four "funny" substances to solve visa bans. 1) Turkiye should provide evidences for detained CIA agents (LoL One ) 2) US should be informed about investigations done in their "workers". (LoL Two ) 3) Turkiye should question whether or not spy works compatible with US interests (Here a huge LoooL and this was three) 4) If US agents had some ties with someones within the knowledge of US govt, Turkiye should not detain them. ( Here another huge LoooL and this was four) Appearently US committee is full of clowns making funny comments Edited October 18, 2017 by Altai Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror
Altai Posted October 20, 2017 Author Report Posted October 20, 2017 (edited) Another "journalist" who is the owner of a Turkish newspaper have been detained. He is accused with funding coup attendees. US foreign affairs made a quick explanation just a few hours after the detention and they made classic US comments about freedom of somethings. Why US panics this much ? Maybe they are just afraid of their ties with the coup attempt will appear more and more ? Who knows ... Why US do not send any lawyers to protect their "workers" ? Edited October 20, 2017 by Altai Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror
Altai Posted October 21, 2017 Author Report Posted October 21, 2017 - US govt wanted the mobile phone of their agent to be delivered to them. - Turkish govt said that documents are exterritoriality and cannot be delivered. Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror
Altai Posted October 21, 2017 Author Report Posted October 21, 2017 US Navy again share a painting of figthing US sailors and Ottoman sailors. I think they still cannot forget that they were paying taxes to Ottoman to wander in seas https://twitter.com/NavalInstitute/status/921347033285451776 Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror
Altai Posted October 24, 2017 Author Report Posted October 24, 2017 (edited) President Erdogan warned US He said "Its ridiculous that they want us to deliver their agent's mobile phone claiming diplomatic immunity, these countries have to wait the completion of the investigations and we will set the World on fire." So he simply says that coup attempt was done by US. Edited October 24, 2017 by Altai Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror
Altai Posted October 24, 2017 Author Report Posted October 24, 2017 US rejects to give visas Turkish Justice Ministry delegation WoW this is nice, I really wonder our response for such a impolite behavior Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror
Altai Posted October 24, 2017 Author Report Posted October 24, 2017 Turkish Justice Ministry said "We officially did not demand any visas." So fake news or something else. Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror
Altai Posted October 25, 2017 Author Report Posted October 25, 2017 Fake/false news about Turkish Justice Ministry seem like produced and published first by a US media agency in Turkiye, which is named CNNTurk. US invites Turkish diplomats to US Turkish diplomats rejects this offer Then US media agency makes a news that Turkish Diplomats wanted to visit US and US rejected to give them visas Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror
Altai Posted October 25, 2017 Author Report Posted October 25, 2017 It have been revealed that an ex-US diplomat named Joe Biden said that "We are having some smells in the Turkish Army", months before the coup attempt. Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror
Altai Posted October 26, 2017 Author Report Posted October 26, 2017 It has been revealed that CIA agents in Turkiye wanted to take photos of the investigation files in year 2012 and prosecutors rejected their illegal offers. The meeting between CIA agents, Turkish polices and two prosecutors was happened in a hotel after a conference about "fight against drugs". Our "ally" try to take photos of secret investigation documents appearently "democracy" at work as usual. Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror
Altai Posted November 11, 2017 Author Report Posted November 11, 2017 Turkish court has given capture decision for CIA agent named Henry Barkey who is accused of directly involving in the unseccesful coup attempt. Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror
Thinkinoutsidethebox Posted November 11, 2017 Report Posted November 11, 2017 Careful people... This is going to cost us another ten million per accused to fix... Quote
Cum Laude Posted November 11, 2017 Report Posted November 11, 2017 11 hours ago, Altai said: Turkish court has given capture decision for CIA agent named Henry Barkey who is accused of directly involving in the unseccesful coup attempt. Altai, take a breath. The PBS News hour recently made me laugh. They had a story on Putin election meddling where they frantically reported that 126 million Americans were exposed to Russian messages on social media. ONE HUNDRED TWENTY SIX MILLION!!! Surely then this demands an election do-over. The Russians subverted American democracy. The Trump presidency is the evil spawn of the Kremlin and its diabolical leader. Trump is an illegitimate president. Surely everyone can see this. OUT WITH TRUMP. Ok, but somebody from the DNC or the exalted New York Times better have a talk with Twitter’s general counsel Edgett, who obviously isn’t getting the memos. He testified that Russian-linked accounts represented .012 percent of total Twitter accounts, that election related tweets coming from those accounts represented .74 percent of all election related tweets, that of 131,000 tweets coming from a known Russian troll farm during the campaign, 9 percent were election related. On the Facebook side of things, Facebook raised 27 billion dollars in ad revenue last year. The presidential election cost about 2.7 billion dollars. Trump and Clinton spent 81 million dollars on Facebook ads. The Russian devils spent about $100,000 for ads on Facebook. Given the mega-buck world of Facebook and election spending, is anybody daft enough to think that $100,000 is enough to catapult Trump into the White House? The social media world is swimming in behemoth sized volumes of money and ads and messages. These Russian numbers are ant-sized. Now, we all know that Progressives are data and evidence oriented. At least, that’s what they tell us. But this evidence doesn’t add up to an election result bought and paid for by Vladimir Putin. It doesn’t add up to squat. These pissant numbers are evidence of nothing, at least nothing like a social media world infused with Russian propaganda and fake news as portrayed by Democrats and their allies. The more the Democrats beat this drum, the more they look like they lost the election fair and square. The faster the Democrats shut up and move on the better off they’ll be. Quote
JamesHackerMP Posted November 13, 2017 Report Posted November 13, 2017 On 10/25/2017 at 4:56 AM, Altai said: It have been revealed that an ex-US diplomat named Joe Biden said that "We are having some smells in the Turkish Army", months before the coup attempt. I didn't know Biden was a diplomat. He was the senator from Delaware before becoming Vice-President. (Americans don't really give a damn about Delaware....or Maryland, where I come from, for that matter.) Quote "We're not above nature, Mr Hacker, we're part of it. Men are animals, too!" "I know that, I've just come from the House of Commons!" [Yes, Minister]
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 13, 2017 Report Posted November 13, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, JamesHackerMP said: I didn't know Biden was a diplomat. He was the senator from Delaware before becoming Vice-President. (Americans don't really give a damn about Delaware....or Maryland, where I come from, for that matter.) Maryland gets more respect than tinier Delaware....the Terps are in the Big 10. Delaware and Biden are treasured by big corporations because of very favourable incorporation rules and limited liability. Neither care much about Turkiye in my estimation. Edited November 13, 2017 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Cum Laude Posted November 14, 2017 Report Posted November 14, 2017 4 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Maryland gets more respect than tinier Delaware....the Terps are in the Big 10. Delaware and Biden are treasured by big corporations because of very favourable incorporation rules and limited liability. Neither care much about Turkiye in my estimation. As I Listen and watch Americans you can guess at some of the inter-locking wheels turning in the collective psyche. Some of that mechanism doesn’t work, for example, you hear the wheels generating paranoia grinding their gears against those powering grandeur. The mal-function manifests itself in delusion which itself affects the behavior of US foreign policy and military elites. For instance, this absurd Iranian nuclear deal: who was at the table across from Iran? The US was there, the UK, Russia, France, China and Germany. Who SHOULD have been at the table? It’s very simple, the countries in closest geographic proximity to Iran, for example, the Turks, Egyptians, Iraqis, Saudis, Syrians, Israelis, Lebanese, Russians. Iran has been military power and imperial aggressor for going on three thousand years. A long, long time IOW, long before either the US or its empire-building mother-country (Britain). And who would have suffered from Iranian mis-behavior? Its immediate neighbors, that’s who. Could it possibly be that Americans mis-read the goings-on in the middle-east? Is it possible that what powers the place has nothing to do with the US? Could it be that what Iranians do, what they think, how they behave, is all rooted in their own age-old collective interests and habits that far pre-date the age of oil and gas? As you realize, there’s shit that’s been festering for 14 centuries, ever since the inception of Islam. The middle-east is an old, old place with ancient animosities and rivalries. There’s even Chaldeans and Assyrians still kicking around. That place is ten thousand years deep. There’s mounds covering ruins of cities that date back to the ice-age. Does anyone think that Americans really have “influence” in that place? This is a fantasy. The best thing the US can do is to leave the middle-east to middle easterners to sort out. Quote
JamesHackerMP Posted November 14, 2017 Report Posted November 14, 2017 (edited) You know Cum Laude, I'm glad to hear someone say that finally! I think Obama's attitude of let's get everyone to like us was a major f**** up myself...but that's just me. Is it true the Saudis walked out of the talks? Edited November 14, 2017 by JamesHackerMP Quote "We're not above nature, Mr Hacker, we're part of it. Men are animals, too!" "I know that, I've just come from the House of Commons!" [Yes, Minister]
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