DogOnPorch Posted September 24, 2017 Report Posted September 24, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, eyeball said: How would Russia get off the hook so easy? All mobile launchers are Russian designed ultimately. North Korea now possesses these. Edited September 24, 2017 by DogOnPorch Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
eyeball Posted September 24, 2017 Report Posted September 24, 2017 Yeah but in Argus' scenario Russia is a complicit partner in the destruction of the US. How do they get away with that? Maybe they have something over Trump after all. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
DogOnPorch Posted September 24, 2017 Report Posted September 24, 2017 Just now, eyeball said: Yeah but in Argus' scenario Russia is a complicit partner in the destruction of the US. How do they get away with that? Maybe they have something over Trump after all. Russia is the ultimate source of this technology...but it has been around for decades. China would be the one who passed this one along....and they got it from Russia. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
eyeball Posted September 24, 2017 Report Posted September 24, 2017 Did you read what Argus suggested - that Russia would help NK by supplying a modern missile? I'm pretty sure Argus is talking future tense not historical...try pulling your head out of your Koran and focusing on the now for a moment. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
DogOnPorch Posted September 24, 2017 Report Posted September 24, 2017 11 minutes ago, eyeball said: Did you read what Argus suggested - that Russia would help NK by supplying a modern missile? I'm pretty sure Argus is talking future tense not historical...try pulling your head out of your Koran and focusing on the now for a moment. There's nothing wrong with NK missile tech. It's just in the teething stages. I've read lots of books. Of the 'holy' ones...it's the Gita that's my favorite. Especially illuminated version of which I have a truly beautiful set. Krishna...what a rascal! A demi-god that into boobies can't be all that bad. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
eyeball Posted September 24, 2017 Report Posted September 24, 2017 You apparently don't see anything wrong with Russia giving NK a new missile either. Must be all those boobs distracting you. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
DogOnPorch Posted September 24, 2017 Report Posted September 24, 2017 NK went the route that most Third World missile jocks go....hypergolic fueled. It's cheap and operates at room temperature...no matter the hazmat suits one needs due to the toxicity. A hypergolic fueled Long March slammed into a small Chinese city back in the 1990s...removed it from the map. Russia also uses some hypergolic powered machines. Most notably the Proton. There have been some spectacular fails. This one produced a kiloton sized kaboom... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zl12dXYcUTo Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
DogOnPorch Posted September 24, 2017 Report Posted September 24, 2017 2 minutes ago, eyeball said: You apparently don't see anything wrong with Russia giving NK a new missile either. Must be all those boobs distracting you. Do you still beat your wife? Why?? Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
eyeball Posted September 24, 2017 Report Posted September 24, 2017 6 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: Do you still beat your wife? Why?? Your's was out cold. Anyone else have an idea how Russia would get off Scot-free in Argus' scenario? Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
DogOnPorch Posted September 24, 2017 Report Posted September 24, 2017 (edited) 12 minutes ago, eyeball said: Your's was out cold. Anyone else have an idea how Russia would get off Scot-free in Argus' scenario? It's a man's hobby...beating women unconscious. As mentioned: North Korea doesn't need Russia anymore. Back during the Korean War, most MiG-15 pilots that managed to stay alive vs the US pilots in their F-86 Sabres were Russian...not North Korean. The Chinese and NK pilots could barely take-off...but they did in great big clouds of 60+ jets. Rata-tat-tat. Russia survived. Edited September 24, 2017 by DogOnPorch Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
eyeball Posted September 24, 2017 Report Posted September 24, 2017 14 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: It's a man's hobby...beating women unconscious. You really need to put your Koran away. Quote As mentioned: North Korea doesn't need Russia anymore. Back during the Korean War, most MiG-15 pilots that managed to stay alive vs the US pilots in their F-86 Sabres were Russian...not North Korean. The Chinese and NK pilots could barely take-off...but they did in great big clouds of 60+ jets. Rata-tat-tat. Russia survived. Yes but as mentioned, what Argus suggested is that Russia now needs NK - so it can take over the world with China. I wonder what NK gets out of the deal? Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
DogOnPorch Posted September 24, 2017 Report Posted September 24, 2017 2 minutes ago, eyeball said: You really need to put your Koran away. You're free to support Islam. 3 minutes ago, eyeball said: Yes but as mentioned, what Argus suggested is that Russia now needs NK - so it can take over the world with China. I wonder what NK gets out of the deal? What deal? The one in your head? Nothing. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
eyeball Posted September 24, 2017 Report Posted September 24, 2017 Just now, DogOnPorch said: You're free to support Islam. I did, suggesting you stop reading the Koran. That last thing Islam needs is yet another crackpot interpretation. Quote What deal? The one in your head? Nothing. The deal implied in Argus' suggestion. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
bush_cheney2004 Posted September 24, 2017 Report Posted September 24, 2017 (edited) 36 minutes ago, eyeball said: Yes but as mentioned, what Argus suggested is that Russia now needs NK - so it can take over the world with China. I wonder what NK gets out of the deal? Same thing Canada got out of the British Empire...and still does. Edited September 24, 2017 by bush_cheney2004 1 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
eyeball Posted September 24, 2017 Report Posted September 24, 2017 So back to my first question; how does Russia get off Scot free, the same way the US has? Might makes right or something? Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
bush_cheney2004 Posted September 24, 2017 Report Posted September 24, 2017 2 hours ago, eyeball said: So back to my first question; how does Russia get off Scot free, the same way the US has? Might makes right or something? Russia is still licking its wounds from the collapse of the Soviet Union. Economics trumps virtue...and might. 1 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
DogOnPorch Posted September 24, 2017 Report Posted September 24, 2017 6 hours ago, eyeball said: I did, suggesting you stop reading the Koran. That last thing Islam needs is yet another crackpot interpretation. The deal implied in Argus' suggestion. Yes...your anti-intellectualism. Reading is bad, kids. Hurts the eyeballs. Yes...the deal in your head. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
eyeball Posted September 24, 2017 Report Posted September 24, 2017 You're free to support NK and its allies. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
Argus Posted September 24, 2017 Author Report Posted September 24, 2017 14 hours ago, DogOnPorch said: All mobile launchers are Russian designed ultimately. North Korea now possesses these. Which would make it look like the missile came from North Korea - where it was launched, after all. And after American missiles retaliate there's sure not going to be any evidence to sift through to find the real culprit. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted September 24, 2017 Author Report Posted September 24, 2017 15 hours ago, DogOnPorch said: Don't get fooled by statistics...plus...it's not 1962. What does that mean? We are MORE vulnerable to EMPs now than we were back in 1962. An EMP in 1962 wouldn't have hurt our cars and trucks, for example , because there was no electronics in them. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
DogOnPorch Posted September 24, 2017 Report Posted September 24, 2017 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Argus said: What does that mean? We are MORE vulnerable to EMPs now than we were back in 1962. An EMP in 1962 wouldn't have hurt our cars and trucks, for example , because there was no electronics in them. Uh...no it would fry the points and coils. Lift-up the roter cap...the tips are all melted! Edited September 24, 2017 by DogOnPorch Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
DogOnPorch Posted September 24, 2017 Report Posted September 24, 2017 Either way...ridiculous to fight about. When a nuke goes-off, it leaves a unique signature. Where the uranium was mined can be determined... Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Argus Posted September 24, 2017 Author Report Posted September 24, 2017 (edited) 10 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: Either way...ridiculous to fight about. When a nuke goes-off, it leaves a unique signature. Where the uranium was mined can be determined... Even if it goes off 400km in the air? And where does the uranium in NK nukes come from? Edited September 24, 2017 by Argus Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
DogOnPorch Posted September 24, 2017 Report Posted September 24, 2017 8 minutes ago, Argus said: Even if it goes off 400km in the air? And where does the uranium in NK nukes come from? Plutonium, actually. China supplies the raw Uranium for NKs reactors (some Canadian help there)...but it gets turned into weapons grade Plutonium-239 @ Yongbyon. Yes...even 400km up as they'd just need a sample of the remaining fallout. Old school...shooting a sounding rocket would provide the details of the isotope soup present. Although spectro-analysis can probably do the deed these days... 1 Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
DogOnPorch Posted September 24, 2017 Report Posted September 24, 2017 ...and NK is quite far down this path. They are able to produce their own fuel rods and such from raw or low processed Uranium... Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
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