Bill 89

[betsy]

If you think we're not getting into a totalitarian state - think again.

 

 

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Bill 89 – Another Attack on the Family by the Province of Ontario

 

Premier Kathleen Wynne of Ontario mounted her high horse again to further impose her ideological views on innocent children by way of recently introduced Bill 89, Supporting Children, Youth and Families Act, 2016.

Bill 89 affirms Ms. Wynne’s belief that children belong to the State, not to their parents. During her term of office, she has done everything in her power to separate the children from their natural family.

Premier Wynne previously forced children to submit to her personal sexual values by forcing a shocking sex-education curriculum on all the children in this province. She is now extending her reach by taking control of the unfortunate children brought under the supervision of Children’s Aid Societies (CAS).  In doing so she is targeting the traditional family and its values.

 

There are deep concerns about this bill.

It appears to effectively give wide jurisdiction to the State to control the lives of children in the CAS, and in doing so, interfere with the parent/child relationship. This occurs by defining the “best interests of the child” so broadly as to include: the child’s physical, emotional, mental and developmental needs, as well as the child’s race, ancestry, place of origin, colour, ethnic origin, citizenship, family diversity, disability, creed, sex, sexual orientation, gender identity, and gender expression.

That is, these broad sweeping provisions in the legislation make every family vulnerable to the removal of their children from their home on the basis of the ambiguous provisions listed in the bill as defined by the government, especially by regulations, which require no public debate or approval by the legislature.

For example, this proposed legislation permits the CAS to withdraw a child from its family if it is determined the child is likely to suffer emotional or mental harm, or for a parent’s failure to provide the child with services or treatment. If a child decides he/she is of a gender other than his/her biological gender, the parents are required by this legislation to provide transgender medical services to the child or risk the child being removed from the home.

 

http://www.realwomenofcanada.ca/bill-28/

 

Furthermore.....how sick is this government?   Why is Kathleen Wynne seems so obsessed with children and their sexuality?

How can a child make  important decisions such as sex-change?

 

 

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The reality, too, is that many children do resist parental direction as a part of the growing up process. As a result they may experience “mental and emotional” discomfort when their parents insist that they do as instructed.  This parent/child conflict could, under provisions of the bill, lead to the removal of the child from the home.

http://www.realwomenofcanada.ca/bill-28/

Edited June 11, 2017 by betsy

[hot enough]

real women of canada - the sky is falling the sky is falling! 

[Ash74]

Now this could be interesting.

If a devote Catholic family does not support their child who is gay or transgender the state will take him/her away.

But what if it is a devote Muslim family that does the same thing?

[hot enough]

1 hour ago, Ash74 said:

Now this could be interesting.I

Just another brick in the wall

[taxme]

On 6/10/2017 at 3:15 PM, betsy said:

If you think we're not getting into a totalitarian state - think again.

 

 

http://www.realwomenofcanada.ca/bill-28/

 

Furthermore.....how sick is this government?   Why is Kathleen Wynne seems so obsessed with children and their sexuality?

How can a child make  important decisions such as sex-change?

 

 

http://www.realwomenofcanada.ca/bill-28/

 

7 hours ago, hot enough said:

real women of canada - the sky is falling the sky is falling! 

You do live in a Kathleen Wynne communist bubble, don't you? Children belong to the parents, not the state. All this LGBT and trans crap has gone on for far too long. Kids in school do not need to learn as to how gays have sex or whether they are what they look like gender wise. If you have out door plumbing you are male. If you have in door plumbing you are a female. Plain and simple. Canada is fast becoming the new Sodom and Gomorrah thanks to people like you and your views. . 

[taxme]

4 hours ago, Ash74 said:

Now this could be interesting.

If a devote Catholic family does not support their child who is gay or transgender the state will take him/her away.

But what if it is a devote Muslim family that does the same thing?

No touchy. Muslims will be given a free pass. They will not assimilate and old lesbian Kathy knows it too. They will not put up with her gay/transgender promoting nonsense. They hate lesbians. Only non-Muslims will have to go along with her orders or else. 

[taxme]

3 hours ago, hot enough said:

Just another brick in the wall

Just another communist brick in the wall that needs to be sledge hammered out. 

[hot enough]

18 minutes ago, taxme said:

 

You do live in a Kathleen Wynne communist bubble, don't you? Children belong to the parents, not the state. All this LGBT and trans crap has gone on for far too long. Kids in school do not need to learn as to how gays have sex or whether they are what they look like gender wise. If you have out door plumbing you are male. If you have in door plumbing you are a female. Plain and simple. Canada is fast becoming the new Sodom and Gomorrah thanks to people like you and your views. . 

You two are peas in a pod. Why are you ragging on her? Confused much!!

[taxme]

On 6/10/2017 at 3:15 PM, betsy said:

If you think we're not getting into a totalitarian state - think again.

 

 

http://www.realwomenofcanada.ca/bill-28/

 

Furthermore.....how sick is this government?   Why is Kathleen Wynne seems so obsessed with children and their sexuality?

How can a child make  important decisions such as sex-change?

 

 

http://www.realwomenofcanada.ca/bill-28/

This is what happens when decency and morality are thrown out the window, and Sodom and Gomorrah perversion are being allowed to be introduced into society by the likes of people like Wynne, and that sexually perverted communist team of hers, that was never asked for by we the people. It is the fault of we the people for allowing Wynne to get away with this nonsense. 

She is also behind the communist movement to remove the words parents and mom and dad from the English language vocabulary, and replace it with partners. There will be no more mom and dad anymore. They will be called partners as gays like to call themselves and their partners.

The pedophiles among us want pedophilia to be considered normal and accepted, and protected under the law, so that then they will be able to have their way with any child they encounter without fear of the law coming after them, and nothing can be done about it, and no one will be allowed to criticize such behavior or else. Ontario children are getting the highest dose of communism a province can get as that government wants to be the leader in creating a Canadian Sodm and Gomorrah in Canada. 

Now will the Ontario people finally say enough already and speak out or will they remain silent as they always appear to do? Our children's minds are at stake here, and they need their parents to defend them from these communist liberal Wynne perverts from getting their sick perversions become law. 

[taxme]

13 minutes ago, hot enough said:

You two are peas in a pod. Why are you ragging on her? Confused much!!

Why do you appear to want to defend this sick and stupid liberal communist Bill 89? Do you not believe that children belong to the parents, and not the state? 

[hot enough]

11 minutes ago, taxme said:

Why do you appear to want to defend this sick and stupid liberal communist Bill 89? Do you not believe that children belong to the parents, and not the state? 

Wow, are you confused! I only remarked on how you were attacking Betsy, your comrade in conservatism. 

I don't know anything about Bill 89 and I'm certainly not likely to from either you or Betsy. I've seen how both of you distort things in a typical conservative manner. 

[Ash74]

I am a conservative but am not a believer in The Bible.

I believe in free speech and freedom to worship whatever God you wish. That is not my business.

I want my kids happy. If they are gay that is up to them. Not my life it is theirs. My point is why some cultures are given special treatment and why is the Government meddling in affairs that should not and does not concern them

Edited June 12, 2017 by Ash74

[dialamah]

Given the origin of the article and the very obvious slant, I thought a little more research was warranted.  This bill was a response to recommendations made after an investigation into a 7-year-olds death at the hands of legal guardians.  She had more than 70 wounds and a ruptured liver.

http://lisagelman.com/childcustody/child-protection-law-ontario-katelynns-principle-bill-89/

A less biased review of this law is found here:  https://arpacanada.ca/news/2017/01/06/bill-89/

Given that kids kill themselves due to non-acceptance of LGBTQ identification I can see why some people might think moving these kids from a home in which their parents rejects them could be a good idea.  The new bill also apparently makes a child's religion less of a factor when placing them in care.  Perhaps that is in their so that Muslim kids could be placed with non-Muslim families.

Personally, kids in care so often ends in disaster, I think there should be less removing and more oversight, education and support of families who show problems.  On the other hand when a kid dies at the hands of the parents or foster parents, social services is blamed.   They really are in a no-win situation.

 

 

 

[taxme]

18 hours ago, hot enough said:

Wow, are you confused! I only remarked on how you were attacking Betsy, your comrade in conservatism. 

I don't know anything about Bill 89 and I'm certainly not likely to from either you or Betsy. I've seen how both of you distort things in a typical conservative manner. 

I thought that when you said" ragging on her" I thought you meant Wynne. You did not mention a name. 

[taxme]

4 hours ago, dialamah said:

Given the origin of the article and the very obvious slant, I thought a little more research was warranted.  This bill was a response to recommendations made after an investigation into a 7-year-olds death at the hands of legal guardians.  She had more than 70 wounds and a ruptured liver.

http://lisagelman.com/childcustody/child-protection-law-ontario-katelynns-principle-bill-89/

A less biased review of this law is found here:  https://arpacanada.ca/news/2017/01/06/bill-89/

Given that kids kill themselves due to non-acceptance of LGBTQ identification I can see why some people might think moving these kids from a home in which their parents rejects them could be a good idea.  The new bill also apparently makes a child's religion less of a factor when placing them in care.  Perhaps that is in their so that Muslim kids could be placed with non-Muslim families.

Personally, kids in care so often ends in disaster, I think there should be less removing and more oversight, education and support of families who show problems.  On the other hand when a kid dies at the hands of the parents or foster parents, social services is blamed.   They really are in a no-win situation.

 

 

 

I wonder if most of the kids that are handed over to foster parents could have instead been handed over to a family member. I guess that is ho it would/should work? 

[taxme]

18 hours ago, Ash74 said:

I am a conservative but am not a believer in The Bible.

I believe in free speech and freedom to worship whatever God you wish. That is not my business.

I want my kids happy. If they are gay that is up to them. Not my life it is theirs. My point is why some cultures are given special treatment and why is the Government meddling in affairs that should not and does not concern them

If people want more government then they will get more government. Voting for the liberals or the ndp will give you more and not less government. 

[hot enough]

On 6/11/2017 at 6:13 PM, taxme said:

Why do you appear to want to defend this sick and stupid liberal communist Bill 89? Do you not believe that children belong to the parents, and not the state? 

Oh man, Betsy and the other conservatives - the sky is falling, the sky is falling!

[taxme]

3 hours ago, hot enough said:

Oh man, Betsy and the other conservatives - the sky is falling, the sky is falling!

Conservatives are just a little too much for you to handle, eh? I guess that is due to the common sense and logic part that you cannot seem to handle, uhmm?  Geez, too bad for you, liberal. 

[betsy]

On 6/11/2017 at 8:07 PM, taxme said:

This is what happens when decency and morality are thrown out the window, and Sodom and Gomorrah perversion are being allowed to be introduced into society by the likes of people like Wynne, and that sexually perverted communist team of hers, that was never asked for by we the people. It is the fault of we the people for allowing Wynne to get away with this nonsense. 

She is also behind the communist movement to remove the words parents and mom and dad from the English language vocabulary, and replace it with partners. There will be no more mom and dad anymore. They will be called partners as gays like to call themselves and their partners.

The pedophiles among us want pedophilia to be considered normal and accepted, and protected under the law, so that then they will be able to have their way with any child they encounter without fear of the law coming after them, and nothing can be done about it, and no one will be allowed to criticize such behavior or else. Ontario children are getting the highest dose of communism a province can get as that government wants to be the leader in creating a Canadian Sodm and Gomorrah in Canada. 

Now will the Ontario people finally say enough already and speak out or will they remain silent as they always appear to do? Our children's minds are at stake here, and they need their parents to defend them from these communist liberal Wynne perverts from getting their sick perversions become law. 

 

Yes.  It is like communism.  Taking children from parents under any pretext, is the beginning.

[betsy]

7 hours ago, hot enough said:

Oh man, Betsy and the other conservatives - the sky is falling, the sky is falling!

Look who's talking.   

All we need is mention Trump, and you get all excited like as if armageddon is on your doorstep! 

Edited June 13, 2017 by betsy

[hot enough]

12 hours ago, betsy said:

Look who's talking.  

All we need is mention Trump, and you get all excited like as if armageddon is on your doorstep!  

I'm not worried at all about Trump. I like that he is in "power", the USA deserves him. It's more, how can I say this, ...  schadenfreude.

[taxme]

15 hours ago, betsy said:

 

Yes.  It is like communism.  Taking children from parents under any pretext, is the beginning.

When will Canadians ever learn that liberalism and socialism equals communism? I am afraid that the majority of Canadians have become too politically correct and are too cowardly to speak out. They truly are showing just how much they want to become a communist slave stooge. The Canada that we once knew several decades is just about all gone, and is being slowly replaced with third world and sex pervert values. You and me just might have to run to America as refugees one of these days. God help us.  

[taxme]

2 hours ago, hot enough said:

I'm not worried at all about Trump. I like that he is in "power", the USA deserves him. It's more, how can I say this, ...  schadenfreude.

Sure you are worried about Trump? You can't stop attacking and criticizing him. We know that JT is your man, eh? 

[hot enough]

29 minutes ago, taxme said:

 You can't stop attacking and criticizing him.

It's the stupidity that warrants any attention.

I address your posts.

[taxme]

35 minutes ago, hot enough said:

It's the stupidity that warrants any attention.

I address your posts.

Aw, "schadenfreude" to you too whatever it is suppose to mean.