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13 minutes ago, dialamah said:

Your ability to read minds is astounding.  One wonders why you aren't out solving the world's problems since you have such talent in ascertaining the true motivations and thoughts of absolutely everyone. 

Well, in some cases I do take into consideration the obvious inferior intelligence of those I'm dealing with, but I admit that if they're zealots and Islamophiles I don't tend to give them much sympathy for their moronic and ignorant views, especially given their rude, insulting and disrespectful attitudes.

If someone is so ignorant they don't understand how they're giving offense then they should stick to the subject matter rather than continually trying to change the subject to the poster, or shut up and accept the quite proper response.

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19 hours ago, dialamah said:

Your ability to read minds is astounding.  One wonders why you aren't out solving the world's problems since you have such talent in ascertaining the true motivations and thoughts of absolutely everyone.  Or at least making a killing among the gullible who believe that sort of claptrap.

There is rather a lot of that on here.  I'm pretty sure my motives have been explained to me more than once...

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On 04/06/2017 at 11:49 AM, Argus said:

The most popular chants one sees when leftists set out to stop someone from speaking are ones which, oddly, seem incredibly fascist. For example “Whose streets? OUR streets!” and “Nazi scum, off our streets!” and “Racists, fascists off our streets!”

Sounds about right to me.

B)

Hitler said we shouldn't have let them rally and spread the hate.

 

On that now.

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On 05/06/2017 at 5:13 PM, Moonlight Graham said:

If someone is trying to speak at an organized event, and people stand up and want to chant for 10 seconds or whatnot to make their point of protest, then sure that's free speech and peaceful protest, but they you chant endlessly just to disrupt and shut-down the event, I think that's disturbance of the peace IMO.

No.

Letting Nazis spread hatred ... that's a disturbance of the peace.

Chants, drums, music ... that's not disturbing ... except to the Nazis.

Oh well.

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11 minutes ago, jacee said:

No.

Letting Nazis spread hatred ... that's a disturbance of the peace.

Chants, drums, music ... that's not disturbing ... except to the Nazis.

Oh well.

Regardless of the message, peaceful demonstration is fine. Regardless of the message, violent demonstration is not.

Disturbing the peace is against the law. Let the police sort that one out.

Chants drums and music would certainly disturb my peace. 

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5 hours ago, bcsapper said:

Regardless of the message, peaceful demonstration is fine. Regardless of the message, violent demonstration is not.

Disturbing the peace is against the law. Let the police sort that one out.

Chants drums and music would certainly disturb my peace. 

One is entitled to defend oneself when the Nazis are attacking to break through the line. 

If the noise bothers you, take your pals and go home.  :P

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6 hours ago, jacee said:

 

One is entitled to defend oneself when the Nazis are attacking to break through the line. 

 

Oh absolutely.  That's exactly what I said.  Everyone is entitled to defend themselves.

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5 minutes ago, jacee said:

Peacefully blockading them and preventing their hate rally.  

There is no such thing as a peaceful blockade. You are using force to prevent someone from peacefully assembling or going somewhere they have a right to go.

5 minutes ago, jacee said:

If they are violent and attack the line ... 

In other words, if they won't let you bully them into not having a rally you'll physically attack them? That's the mentality of ANTIFA, and it's violently undemocratic. I find many of your beliefs extremist but I would never accept that you or those like you should be silenced and prevented from having meetings, rallies, etc.

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1 minute ago, Argus said:

There is no such thing as a peaceful blockade. You are using force to prevent someone from peacefully assembling or going somewhere they have a right to go.

In other words, if they won't let you bully them into not having a rally you'll physically attack them? That's the mentality of ANTIFA, and it's violently undemocratic. I find many of your beliefs extremist but I would never accept that you or those like you should be silenced and prevented from having meetings, rallies, etc.

 

Everybody is in for a shock when one of these 'rallies' turns into the equivalent of a Civil War battle with hundreds dead and thousands injured...

So much for the festival-like atmosphere at that point... 

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3 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

Everybody is in for a shock when one of these 'rallies' turns into the equivalent of a Civil War battle with hundreds dead and thousands injured...

So much for the festival-like atmosphere at that point... 

Won't get to anything like that point as long as the police do their job. They failed to do it in Charlottesville and Berkeley.

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15 minutes ago, jacee said:

Peacefully blockading them and preventing their hate rally.  

If they are violent and attack the line ... 

Preventing someone from doing something they are legally entitled to do is not peaceful.  It's violent.

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Just now, Argus said:

Won't get to anything like that point as long as the police do their job. They failed to do it in Charlottesville and Berkeley.

 

I'm sure similar words could be heard as the cannons were wheeled-up to Fort Sumter.

Famous...and last...

 

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