Medicinal Pot

[ndpnic]

I suffer from Chronic & Complex Migrains, and my Husband lost his colin to Colitis, and has Severe Crohns.

Both our GP and respective Specialists have suggested Pot as a means of pain and vomit control. Our GP has even written us a note for the police saying she is aware and supportive of our pot use.

The problem is, she can't find a Pharmacy to fill pot prescriptions in our area.

So we ar forced to go downtown and deal with Criminals, and Become Criminals, to access what the Doc's have suggested. Yet, we are legally prescribed Oxycocet, which is not only a highly Addictive Narcotic, but has been proven to damage internal organs!

If the Medical Community feels that pot is a viable Medical treatment, one that is safer and Healthier than other legally prescribable drugs, why are we forcing Legit Medical users to break the law?

Maybe it's time for the government to Piss Off, and let the Canadian populace descide via a REFORENDOM!!!!

[PocketRocket]

I couldn't agree with you more. My wife has a condition wherein the use of pot is infinitely more satisfactory than some of the prescription drugs she's been given.

But, decent pot is expensive and hard to come by.

As a solution, have you considered growing your own???

This has a couple benefits;

Inexpensive pot

Low risk

Controllable quality

Not to mention that it's a great hobby.

Might be something you want to look into.

BTW, to the powers that be here, it's nice to have finally found a decent forum based in Canada.

This is my first post here, just found the place.

I hope you don't mind if I hang around for a while.

[ndpnic]

I couldn't agree with you more. My wife has a condition wherein the use of pot is infinitely more satisfactory than some of the prescription drugs she's been given.

But, decent pot is expensive and hard to come by.

As a solution, have you considered growing your own???

This has a couple benefits;

Inexpensive pot

Low risk

Controllable quality

Not to mention that it's a great hobby.

Might be something you want to look into.

BTW, to the powers that be here, it's nice to have finally found a decent forum based in Canada.

This is my first post here, just found the place.

I hope you don't mind if I hang around for a while.

As a solution, have you considered growing your own???

Yes, we have. We have a 5 year old, and the CAS would take him from us, b/c growing is Illegal.

[PocketRocket]

Good point.

[ndpnic]

That is why even if the Liberals keep their word and decriminalize under 30g, it still does not cover patients growing a plant for medicinal use.

There needs to be a provision for medicinal cultivation.

[Big Blue Machine]

Pot should only be used for medical purposes. Anything is illegal.

[Black Dog]

Pot should only be used for medical purposes. Anything is illegal.

Why?

[PocketRocket]

Good question DOG.

BIG BLUE, can you offer justification as to why pot should not be legalized???

[maplesyrup]

Second-hand smoke!

[Big Blue Machine]

Pot is a drug. Drugs are illegal. Pot should only be used for medical purposes. Pot should not de criminilized. Whats next, all drugs are legal to public?

[PocketRocket]

Pot is a drug. Drugs are illegal. Pot should only be used for medical purposes. Pot should not de criminilized. Whats next, all drugs are legal to public?

That's what I like, a straightforward answer. Unfortunately, it's based on circular logic.

Aspirin is a drug, so is tylenol. Most cough syrups contain drugs. Antihistamins. Sinus capsules.

These are all drugs. How about gravol?? Echinecea?? Ginseng??? All drugs.

Are you saying that they too should be illegal????

Here's my contention; Pot is a mildly intoxicating euphoric that happens to have some medicinal value.

Alcohol, on the other hand, is a not-so-mild intoxicant with little or no medicinal value.

We know for a fact that alcohol used in excess can cause both immediate (alcohol poisoning) and long term (scirrhosis of the liver, heart problems, high blood pressure, etc etc) problems.

How can you condemn the one when the other is perfectly legal, and socially acceptable???

Interestingly enough, if you look into the history of pot, and how it became illegal, you can get a really good laugh.

Up until the mid 40's, early 50's, it was quite legal. Then, when the beatniks started using it, it alarmed a bunch of extreme right-wing types got alarmed at these scruffy-looking poet wanna be's and bohemians. Out came the propoganda machine, and movies like "Reefer Madness" which was actually taken seriously by the general population at the time.

(I particularly like the scene where the guy has his first toke, and immediately starts looking like Dr Jeckyll turning into Mr Hyde)

All of a sudden, boom, anti-pot laws. All out of some McCarthy-ist propoganda, and general ignorance about the effects of the drug.

Canada soon followed the USA in making pot illegal. The rest is a sad history of persecution.

Don't even get me started on the benefits of legalization.

[ndpnic]

I have never heard on the news a story that depicts someone high on Pot committing violence - the same cannot be said for booze!

How many times have you heard about some person losing thier job, getting drunk, killing wife, kids,self?

Maybe if this person had somed ajoint instead of drinking, he would have just had a good cry, and drowned his sorrows in ice cream!

[Slavik44]

I don't see a problem with decriminalizing Pot, we shouldn't screw someone over for the rest of their life just because they got caught with pot, however I would still prefer some clauses in there, that allowed for action to be taken against people who smoke Pot around play grounds/school yards/day care centers etc... However I would also like to see growing Pot remain illegal, unless you are licincesd to do so by the government. As many Pot growers are either working for Gordon Cambell or other gangs, and as far as I am concerned I would rather not see either one of those groups recieve such lucrative funding.

[ndpnic]

Nobody has suggested a plan on how to prevent medicinal users from not only having deal with Drug Dealers, but from becoming Criminals themselves by growing/buying.

We need more Pharmacies to fill medicinal pot precriptions, and have Insurance/Benefit companies cover the cost, like they do for Highly Addictive drugs such as Oxycocet.

We need to allow medicinal users(or everyone!) to Cultivate at least 2 plants(1 for backup), without fear of A) being arrested or CAS taking your child(ren).

[caesar]

Medicinal pot is being grown by the government and is available in pharmacies in BC. believe. We have a compassion club where you can buy your cannabis if you have doctor approval.

Pot is a drug. Drugs are illegal. Pot should only be used for medical purposes. Pot should not de criminilized. Whats next, all drugs are legal to public?

Not true, at all; There are lots of drugs we can take and buy that are legal. Have you never been in a drug store??? Some require a prescription but the sheklves are full of over the counter drugs; some stronger drugs are the pharmacy counter that only require that you ask the pharmacist for them.

[Black Dog]

Pot is a drug. Drugs are illegal. Pot should only be used for medical purposes. Pot should not de criminilized. Whats next, all drugs are legal to public?

But that doesn't answer the question of why pot is illegal, whereas, say, alcohol (which is arguably as destructive as narcotics, if not moreso) is okay.

Furthermore, your answer demonstrates a blind obediance to the law based soley on the fact of the law's existence, as oppossed to its practicality, logic and usefulness.

[kimmy]

Why is pot illegal?

Because the Hell's Angels have to make a living somehow.

-kimmy

[ndpnic]

If pot is bad b/c it's illegal, and that is the only reason, then do I have a list 4 u!

The following items should be prohibited in Canada, b/c they have ALL been Proven to be addictive, corrrosive, and detremental to the human Body, Mind, and Spirit :

Caffine - ie pop, coffee, chocolate, cough syrup, etc

Alcohol - ie beer, wine, rye, rum, etc

Prescription Medication - ie Oxycocet(percocet), morphine, etc

Prescription Mood meds - ie valium. riddlin, ect

Smokes - ie pipes, cigars, cigs

Do I really need to keep going?

Pot is the ONLY ONE out of this list that IS NOT physically addictive, doesn't dammage internal organs, but it is the only ILLEGAL ONE!!!!!

WHY????????????????????????????????????????????????