Smoke Posted September 20, 2016 Report Posted September 20, 2016 It's sheer insanity that you would even bring that up in a situation where once again AN UNARMED person was killed. Not only was he unarmed but he had his hands up in plain view. It's disgusting that you continue to blame the victim. Yes he was unarmed and had his hands in the air....until he walked to the vehicle against police orders, dropped his arms and reached inside the vehicle. Are they supposed to wait until they're dodging bullets? Quote
Smoke Posted September 20, 2016 Report Posted September 20, 2016 Thats is exactly the reason. The logic employed by some posters here is "fuck black people, they probably deserved it." But no, sir. Nobody here is racist trash. Calling people racist trash and stating what they are thinking as if it were fact solves nothing. As well, your extreme outrage changes no facts. Quote
TimG Posted September 20, 2016 Report Posted September 20, 2016 (edited) Thats is exactly the reason. The logic employed by some posters here is "fuck black people, they probably deserved it." But no, sir. Nobody here is racist trash.No it it isn't. That is just garbage you made up because you are so racist that you can't understand why other people are not as racist as you are. What I said was (in this thread and others): None of this should excuse trigger happy cops who don't seem to understand how to deescalate situation. But trying to make this into a race issue will only lead to counter productive solutions (such as cops refusing to enforce the law in place where they are likely to have to confront armed black men). Which should make it clear to anyone who is not a racist looking for strawmen that I have a big problem with gung ho cops that shoot people for no good reason. What I have no patience for is the argument that is this some how unique problem for black people. It isn't. Police are equal opportunity killers when it comes to these kinds of things (as Dziekański can attest). And by turning it into a race issue you simply push police to adopt solutions that do not address the underlying problems of poor training and lack of accoutability. Edited September 21, 2016 by TimG Quote
WestCoastRunner Posted September 21, 2016 Report Posted September 21, 2016 No it it isn't. That is just garbage you made up because you are so racist that you can't understand why other people are not as racist as you are. What I said was (in this thread and others): Which should make it clear to anyone who is not a racist looking for strawmen that I have a big problem with gung ho cops that shoot people for no good reason. What I have no patience for is the argument that is this some how unique problem for black people. It isn't. Police are equal opportunity killers when it comes to these kinds of things (as Dziekański can attest). And by turning it into a race issue you simply push police to adopt solutions that do not address the underlying problems of poor training and lack of accoutability. And you have chosen to completely ignore the studies and analysis that I have linked to. But of course that is up to you. I can only present the info. You can digest it anyway you want. Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
TimG Posted September 21, 2016 Report Posted September 21, 2016 And you have chosen to completely ignore the studies and analysis that I have linked to.I did address the points your studies made. I explained why they are irrelevant strawmen because the stat that matters is not 'violence in communities' but the number of times that police interact with people of different races because that is the stat that should be correlated with the number of killings. My question is why do you keep ignoring my response to your links? Quote
WestCoastRunner Posted September 21, 2016 Report Posted September 21, 2016 I did address the points your studies made. I explained why they are irrelevant strawmen because the stat that matters is not 'violence in communities' but the number of times that police interact with people of different races because that is the stat that should be correlated with the number of killings. My question is why do you keep ignoring my response to your links? Probably because your responses have been addressed by others much better than I could put into words. Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
TimG Posted September 21, 2016 Report Posted September 21, 2016 (edited) Probably because your responses have been addressed by others much better than I could put into words.The only responses I have see from others are the racist rants of people who can't read. You are one who just made a post whinging about people ignoring your post. Now you admit that I did respond to your post but you are unable to refute the points I made. Edited September 21, 2016 by TimG Quote
WestCoastRunner Posted September 21, 2016 Report Posted September 21, 2016 The only responses I have see from others are the racist rants of people who can't read. Right. And you wonder why I don't respond. The only responses I have see from others are the racist rants of people who can't read. Right. And you wonder why I don't respond. Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
TimG Posted September 21, 2016 Report Posted September 21, 2016 (edited) Right. And you wonder why I don't respond.Yet you did respond to me with a post whinging about how I did not read your links. When I pointed out that I did read your links but disagreed you then acknowledged that I did respond to your post but you are unable to refute the points I made. (hint: calling someone a racist is not a refutation). Edited September 21, 2016 by TimG Quote
WestCoastRunner Posted September 21, 2016 Report Posted September 21, 2016 You did respond to me with a post whinging about how I did not read your links. Now you admit that I did respond to your post but you are unable to refute the points I made. (hint: calling someone a racist is not a response). Sorry Tim. I provided analysis and studies that you choose to ignore. I'm done with you. Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
TimG Posted September 21, 2016 Report Posted September 21, 2016 Sorry Tim. I provided analysis and studies that you choose to ignore. I'm done with you.You are unbelievable. I did not ignore them. I debunked them. You seem to think that posting a random study that does not even address the argument being made means there is nothing more say. It doesn't. All your response does is show you are hopeless ideologue that is incapable of understanding people who do not believe in your religion. Quote
Charles Anthony Posted September 21, 2016 Report Posted September 21, 2016 Folks, The nitter-nattering can stop now. Ch. A. Quote We do not have time for a meeting of the flat earth society. << Où sont mes amis ? Ils sont ici, ils sont ici... >>
Argus Posted September 21, 2016 Report Posted September 21, 2016 I see you didn't read the link. I see you failed to understand the link. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted September 21, 2016 Report Posted September 21, 2016 Which is an accurate description... except what TimG is also saying is that this is OK... that the cops are doing their job like they should. Tell you what, how about we ban all police from Black neighborhoods? Also, police will no longer search for or detain any Black suspects provided the victim is also Black. Then you and the BLM crowd can sit around a camp fire singing Kumbaya (the camp fire will be made up of the homes and business which used to exist in those communities and are quickly burned down) Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted September 21, 2016 Report Posted September 21, 2016 Probably because your responses have been addressed by others much better than I could put into words. You mean you don't understand the difference and refuse to address it since it shows how vapid the protests of the BLM type and their supporters are. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted September 21, 2016 Report Posted September 21, 2016 The hostility among certain elements of the Black community has been whipped to such a frenzy by the media and the intellectually bankrupt and patronizing progressive sets that we see Blacks refusing police orders more and more often now, which leads to more violent confrontations. But hey, more blacks dead is something progressives can celebrate since it adds to the value of their current, fashionable 'cause'. Another Black guy was killed yesterday, this time in Charlotte, for once again refusing police orders. This one had a gun though, and was shot by a Black cop. Not that that stopped the riots and the weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth over the 'murdered black brother'. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Moonlight Graham Posted September 23, 2016 Report Posted September 23, 2016 The police officer(s) who shot him should be charged with murder. Being shot is not the Hands up and back facing the several police with guns drawn = zero threat. Charged with manslaughter. Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
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