#NoDAPL

[jacee]

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/taibbi-on-amy-goodman-arrest-for-covering-dakota-pipeline-story-w444754

The whole point of fighting to be independent for your whole career, and building your own news network instead of working at someone else's existing, corporate-funded one, is so that you can cover something like the Dakota Pipeline story whenever you feel like it.

So not only was Amy Goodman doing journalism when she was at those protests, the only kind of journalist who would even be there almost by definition would have to be one like Amy Goodman.

That's not to say more commercial-minded outlets can't or don't cover pipeline controversies, or the misdeeds of powerful energy companies. They just tend not to, for some reason. ... 

But a prosecutor who arrests a reporter because he doesn't think she's "balanced" enough is basically telling future reporters what needs to be in their stories to avoid arrest. 

The trial of Amy Goodman will be an interesting and necessary court challenge of freedom of the press. 

I wonder if the lamestream press will even report on it.

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[jacee]

Update:

Charges dismissed. 

http://m.democracynow.org/web_exclusives/3038

[kimmy]

I really don't care much about native protestors, and don't really have a problem with pipelines.

However, I think it's pretty disturbing that in this case the state prosecutor set out with an agenda to silence a journalist and punish her for bringing public attention to these protests. Regardless of how you feel about pipelines and oil, that should upset you. The law is not supposed to be used as a tool of the state to silence journalists.

One would hope that prosecutor Erickson will face punishment for misconduct, malicious prosecution, or whatever applicable charges can be brought against this kind of abuse of office.

 -k

[jacee]

On 18/10/2016 at 10:29 AM, kimmy said:

I really don't care much about native protestors, and don't really have a problem with pipelines.

However, I think it's pretty disturbing that in this case the state prosecutor set out with an agenda to silence a journalist and punish her for bringing public attention to these protests. Regardless of how you feel about pipelines and oil, that should upset you. The law is not supposed to be used as a tool of the state to silence journalists.

One would hope that prosecutor Erickson will face punishment for misconduct, malicious prosecution, or whatever applicable charges can be brought against this kind of abuse of office.

 -k

I agree it was a dangerous move trying to silence the press, but I doubt the prosecutor will face any discipline for it.

The lamestream press has silenced itself: They aren't even there.

 

Edited October 19, 2016 by jacee

[jacee]

 

A halt to construction for further discussion. 

http://indiancountrytodaymedianetwork.com/2016/11/14/breaking-army-corps-puts-dapl-construction-hold-pending-further-review-and-tribal

"Citing historical injustices, environmental uncertainties and other factors, the U.S. Department of the Army is holding off on easements under the Missouri River for the Dakota Access Pipeline (DAPL) and halting construction pending further review.

“The Army has determined that additional discussion and analysis are warranted in light of the history of the Great Sioux Nation’s dispossessions of lands, the importance of Lake Oahe to the Tribe, our government-to-government relationship, and the statute governing easements through government property,” the Army said in a joint statement with the U.S. Department of the Interior on Monday November 14. “While these discussions are ongoing, construction on or under Corps land bordering Lake Oahe cannot occur because the Army has not made a final decision on whether to grant an easement. The Army will work with the Tribe on a timeline that allows for robust discussion and analysis to be completed expeditiously."

 

Success ... for now.

 

[drummindiver]

As in Caledonia, they are on land that it is not theirs, illegally holding the proper owners as virtual hostages
We need to move products, and your friends here ensured Buffet, who recently bought the rail line there for 34 billus and is now worth 70 billion, opportunities to make a LOT more money. All that money coming ftom North Dakota is going to go straight into Obama's favourite economist, Warren Buffet

Edited November 16, 2016 by drummindiver

[Moonlight Graham]

On 2016-09-06 at 9:46 AM, jacee said:

The only way the switch to renewables has happened and will happen is if we obstruct the fossil fuel industry.

It's working.

Electric cars run on...electricity, which is mainly created by fossil fuel power plants.  Electric cars are about just as filthy and CO2-producing as regular cars.

The problem is that renewables are powered by today's sun energy output (solar, wind), while fossil fuels are essentially many, many, many years of solar energy stored and condensed by hundreds of millions of years of incredible pressure.  It's going to take some more time to figure out a way to get renewables as cheap and efficient as fossil fuels. I hope we get there soon.

[Moonlight Graham]

On 2016-10-18 at 10:29 AM, kimmy said:

However, I think it's pretty disturbing that in this case the state prosecutor set out with an agenda to silence a journalist and punish her for bringing public attention to these protests. Regardless of how you feel about pipelines and oil, that should upset you. The law is not supposed to be used as a tool of the state to silence journalists.

Ya that's pretty much nonsense what they did.  Though they argued she was also there as a protestor because her reporting was clearly in favour of the protests (which it was).  But she's a legit journalist covering the still so WTF.

[Moonlight Graham]

1 hour ago, drummindiver said:

As in Caledonia, they are on land that it is not theirs, illegally holding the proper owners as virtual hostages
We need to move products, and your friends here ensured Buffet, who recently bought the rail line there for 34 billus and is now worth 70 billion, opportunities to make a LOT more money. All that money coming ftom North Dakota is going to go straight into Obama's favourite economist, Warren Buffet

I don't honestly know much about this story, but you can't protest on private property if you're not wanted, that's obviously trespassing. The right to protest doesn't mean you can break other basic rights and laws.

[drummindiver]

9 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said:

I don't honestly know much about this story, but you can't protest on private property if you're not wanted, that's obviously trespassing. The right to protest doesn't mean you can break other basic rights and laws.

 Correct, when it comes to some people. First Nations, not at all.

Standing Rock

http://standingrockfactchecker.org/fact-checking-srst-claims-9-7-16/

 

Caledonia. Police were not allowed, white people were not allowed to walk on city streets paid by taxpayers. Got arrested for it in fact.

http://www.torontosun.com/2016/11/15/u-of-t-prof-to-debate-gender-neutral-pronoun-views-at-forum

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[jacee]

Those were white supremacist instigators. Try to stay on topic.

Apologies, I don't know how to get rid of the formatting, and quitting and starting over didn't work either!

http://www.usace.army.mil/Media/News-Releases/News-Release-Article-View/Article/1003593/statement-regarding-the-dakota-access-pipeline

The Army has determined that additional discussion and analysis are warranted in light of the history of the Great Sioux Nation’s dispossessions of lands, the importance of Lake Oahe to the Tribe, our government-to-government relationship, and the statute governing easements through government property. ________ And ...  RFK: The pipeline company is breaking the law:

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[drummindiver]

On 2016-11-17 at 9:29 AM, jacee said:

Those were white supremacist instigators. Try to stay on topic.

Apologies, I don't know how to get rid of the formatting, and quitting and starting over didn't work either!

http://www.usace.army.mil/Media/News-Releases/News-Release-Article-View/Article/1003593/statement-regarding-the-dakota-access-pipeline

The Army has determined that additional discussion and analysis are warranted in light of the history of the Great Sioux Nation’s dispossessions of lands, the importance of Lake Oahe to the Tribe, our government-to-government relationship, and the statute governing easements through government property. ________ And ...  RFK: The pipeline company is breaking the law:

Those were white people trying to walk on tax paid roads which is clearly shown. You are being obtrusive or an out right liar,.This is only part of what's happening now In Ontario due to illegal occupations, and this is what the illegal occupants in Standing TRock can look forward to . aayoure continued racism nad outright lied regarding g anything pertaining to a person whose skin is not of your colour is well noted.

http://endracebasedlaw.net/mohawk-gang-costs-ontario-50-million/?print=print

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/two-standards-of-policing-failed-the-residents-of-caledonia/article792764/

https://voiceofcanada.wordpress.com/2009/06/01/mohawk-warriors-canada-allows-organized-crime-to-seize-canadian-border-crossing/

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/judge-finds-six-nations-land-claim-exceedingly-weak/article4348896/ 

http://www.caledoniawakeupcall.com/news/homegrown.html

[drummindiver]

Your native warriors put n a great show on other people's land. Sure you do not want to come over and possess my property with your native card?

http://standingrockfactchecker.org/fact-checking-srst-claims-9-7-16/

[drummindiver]

And again cause facts are hard.https://mwalliancenow.org/blog/myths-facts-behind-standing-rock-sioux-tribe-claims/

 

yet more

https://mwalliancenow.org/news/despite-facts-standing-rock-sioux-tribe-continues-spread-falsities/

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[drummindiver]

Plus  the import of criminal element.

https://voiceofcanada.wordpress.com/2009/06/01/mohawk-warriors-canada-allows-organized-crime-to-seize-canadian-border-crossing/

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Charles Anthony]

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[jacee]

On 15/11/2016 at 11:19 PM, Moonlight Graham said:

I don't honestly know much about this story, but you can't protest on private property if you're not wanted, that's obviously trespassing. The right to protest doesn't mean you can break other basic rights and laws.

When it's Treaty land never legally ceded, "private land" is disputed land. 

This is the situation with the Dakota Access Pipeline.

One DAPL pipeline protest camp that was set up on "private" land 'owned' by the pipeline company was raided and demolished by pipeline security and police. Over 100 people were arrested, strip and cavity searched (!!) and kept in detention cages. Police laid 130+ misdemeanour charges, but only 2-3 were accepted by the state prosecutor. (Cavity searches for flimsy misdemeanor trespassing charges is highly suspect, and likely to be subject to lawsuits or criminal sexual assault charges against police.)

The main camp, Oceti Sakowin (the real name for the seven council fires of the Sioux Nations) is also on unceded Treaty land, federally 'owned' by the Army Corps of Engineers.

Last Sunday's sustained and violent attack on protesters - Water Protectors of the Sioux Nations and other Indigenous and non Indigenous people - occurred on a public highway through federal/Treaty land, blockaded by police. Hundreds were treated for hypothermia from police fire hoses in subfreezing temps, and wounds from rubber bullets, flash/concussion/stinger grenades, tear gas ... so-called "less lethal" weapons.

Rubber bullets:

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10211518796148147&id=1311501707

(Vanessa: retina detached, may lose sight in one eye)

https://goo.gl/images/OjPhYv

Sophia: Concussion grenade - a targeted hit exploded her forearm, may lose use of arm and hand. Also multiple rubber bullet wounds. Medics were hit with rubber bullets as they evac'd her.

https://goo.gl/images/BQxa3Q

Class Action lawsuit against police has been filed.

https://www.nlg.org/water-protector-legal-collective-files-suit-for-excessive-force-against-peaceful-protesters/

Pipeline boring under Missouri River at Lake Oahe was legally suspended by Army Corp of Engineers, but known to be proceeding without authorization.

Now you're up to date. 

#WaterIsLife 

Edit/add:

SEE RFK Jr video above re the DAPL pipeline issue.

John Bolenbaugh whistleblower video re whether oil companies 'cleanup' spills (not):

 

Edited December 3, 2016 by jacee
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