Canadian Immigration

[taxme]

This is simply not true. What happened was that in the seventies the Liberals decided to open up our immigration, which was then Eurocentric, in part because there were fewer Europeans who wanted to come here, and in part because they were progressives and felt that we were being prejudiced by not considering immigrants from elsewhere.

Momentum is a powerful force in bureaucracy, and as immigration program managers in various third world visa offices filled their quotas they would fight tooth and nail to retain those quotas and not see them and thus their power and importance, diminished. So even though the economic worm turned in Europe almost a decade ago, giving us access to masses of highly educated young people with university degrees who see little opportunity at home, those visa applications continue to largely be awarded to Asian, middle east and other third world visa offices.

In addition, of course, the people who came from those areas ten and twenty years ago are the ones now sponsoring relatives to come here in their tens and hundreds of thousands. We don't have an awful lot of recent Spanish immigrants (for example) so despite the unemployment rate being almost 23% you'll find few people to sponsor their relatives to come here as compared to Pakistanis, say, or Indians.

Why would the Caucasian people of Canada feel prejudiced from not bringing in more of the third world when people from the third world were already being welcomed and allowed to immigrate to Canada. The numbers may have been low, but no one was being prejudiced against anyone unless you have proof that Canada had a racist policy against the third world people from immigrating to Canada at the time. And why would a country that was made up of majority Caucasian want to change their immigration policy and of where they took their new immigrants from?

Why would a country made up of majority white want to now flood their country with people from the the non white world, and take less Caucasian people from the white world? I have read enough from many websites that went on and explained that this new immigration policy that was changed in the sixties was part of a planned non-Caucasian invasion by the powers that be and who were now taking control of our immigration policies.

So, just why are these masses of educated and skilled people coming to Canada anyway? Why did they have schools and universities where those people were educated and skilled workers turned out and then they had to immigrate to get a job in their filed. Why would they not stay there with the help of the government and help build up their own country and society,rather than come to Canada and help build ours? How are their countries ever going to get going if their educated and skilled trades people leave?

No my boy, this is not all about bringing in new educated and skilled people en masse but part of a planned invasion to flood Canada with people from the third word and nothing more. I can never believe that people from our past traditional sources have decided that they do not want to come to Canada. If the third world wants to immigrate to Canada en masse, I am pretty sure that people from Britain, Europe and Australia would like to come here en masse also. But Canada has decided or some people have decided that things will be different now, and that white people will be the lesser people of who will be allowed to come to Canada.

Aw yes, those sponsored relatives. Relatives that after so many years living in Canada can become citizen's of Canada, and they will be allowed to take advantage of our generous and almost bankrupt medical and social services. Yes indeed, those new Pakastani relatives will make sure that they can get their relatives into Canada and living with them alright. Eventually it will be more money in their pockets for them at the host Canadian taxpayer's expense. These third world immigrants know how to take advantage of our generous welfare system and they will use it to their benefit.

White Canadian liberals will always be treated as fools by the third world because most of those white liberals are fools, and those third world immigrants know this, and they know how to get anything they want from those bleeding heart white liberals, and get into their hearts and pockets.

[taxme]

Canada being a member of the British Commonwealth you probably must give some preference to fellow Commonwealth-members which in your hemisphere include countries like Jamaica and the Bahamas.

Sad, but true.

[CITIZEN_2015]

One of the justifications for immigration is, of course, to pay for those baby boomers who are retiring. The problem is if you're importing a bunch of low income workers then Canada's progressive tax system means they're basically not paying much if any taxes.

A government study last year showed that Chinese immigrants are among the least economically successful in Canada. Despite this, the government plans to increase the number of Chinese immigrants! Why!? Why aren't we increasing the number of Irish or Italian immigrants instead?

People from the Netherlands, the United Kingdom, South Africa, Ireland, Italy, Germany, Australia, the Philippines, Croatia, Portugal, Serbia and India did as well or better than native-born Canadians, the study said.

At the other end of the spectrum, almost one-fifth of those from China, Haiti, Pakistan, Ethiopia, Turkey, Colombia, Iran, Morocco, Afghanistan, Bangladesh, Algeria, South Korea, Iraq and Taiwan lived below the low income cut-off ($18,759 for a single person in Toronto).

https://www.thestar.com/news/immigration/2015/03/20/government-studies-immigrant-incomes-by-where-they-come-from.html

I think that Canada immigration is based on a point system. Education for example takes 10 points, certain skills (like car mechanics or tradesmen which there is a shortage in Canada then another 10 points. Prospective immigrants have to to score a certain points in order for their application to be even considered (say 40 out of maximum 60 for example). Then HOW could uneducated, unskilled workers get in as you appear to say????

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[taxme]

One of the justifications for immigration is, of course, to pay for those baby boomers who are retiring. The problem is if you're importing a bunch of low income workers then Canada's progressive tax system means they're basically not paying much if any taxes.

A government study last year showed that Chinese immigrants are among the least economically successful in Canada. Despite this, the government plans to increase the number of Chinese immigrants! Why!? Why aren't we increasing the number of Irish or Italian immigrants instead?

People from the Netherlands, the United Kingdom, South Africa, Ireland, Italy, Germany, Australia, the Philippines, Croatia, Portugal, Serbia and India did as well or better than native-born Canadians, the study said.

At the other end of the spectrum, almost one-fifth of those from China, Haiti, Pakistan, Ethiopia, Turkey, Colombia, Iran, Morocco, Afghanistan, Bangladesh, Algeria, South Korea, Iraq and Taiwan lived below the low income cut-off ($18,759 for a single person in Toronto).

https://www.thestar.com/news/immigration/2015/03/20/government-studies-immigrant-incomes-by-where-they-come-from.html

Our politicians love to quote and gloat about how the baby boomers are starting to retire, and therefore we must have more immigration and especially flood this country with people who have nothing in common with Canadian our culture and tradition and heritage values and ways of life. They come here with their own baggage and are allowed to promote it at the host Canadian taxpayer's expense. Aw, the joys of multiculturalism.

[taxme]

I think that Canada immigration is based on a point system. Education for example takes 10 points, certain skills (like car mechanics or tradesmen which there is a shortage in Canada then another 10 point. People needs to score a certain point in order for their application to be considered (say 40 out of maximum 60 for example). Then HOW could uneducated, unskilled workers get in as you appear to say????

Many just sneak in, and when they get here shout refugee. Then the immigration refugee wheel starts to spin, and that refugee wheel could spin and spin for years until they can find out if they can stay or not. The slightest cry of persecution if they were sent back to their country will pretty much assure them that they will be able to stay in Canada and begin to suck off the system, and the Canadian taxpayer who pays for that system. Aw well.

[Guest]

So, what's your point?

I'm an increasing European Immigrant.

[-TSS-]

Why would the Caucasian people of Canada feel prejudiced from not bringing in more of the third world when people from the third world were already being welcomed and allowed to immigrate to Canada. The numbers may have been low, but no one was being prejudiced against anyone unless you have proof that Canada had a racist policy against the third world people from immigrating to Canada at the time. And why would a country that was made up of majority Caucasian want to change their immigration policy and of where they took their new immigrants from?

Why would a country made up of majority white want to now flood their country with people from the the non white world, and take less Caucasian people from the white world? I have read enough from many websites that went on and explained that this new immigration policy that was changed in the sixties was part of a planned non-Caucasian invasion by the powers that be and who were now taking control of our immigration policies.

So, just why are these masses of educated and skilled people coming to Canada anyway? Why did they have schools and universities where those people were educated and skilled workers turned out and then they had to immigrate to get a job in their filed. Why would they not stay there with the help of the government and help build up their own country and society,rather than come to Canada and help build ours? How are their countries ever going to get going if their educated and skilled trades people leave?

No my boy, this is not all about bringing in new educated and skilled people en masse but part of a planned invasion to flood Canada with people from the third word and nothing more. I can never believe that people from our past traditional sources have decided that they do not want to come to Canada. If the third world wants to immigrate to Canada en masse, I am pretty sure that people from Britain, Europe and Australia would like to come here en masse also. But Canada has decided or some people have decided that things will be different now, and that white people will be the lesser people of who will be allowed to come to Canada.

Aw yes, those sponsored relatives. Relatives that after so many years living in Canada can become citizen's of Canada, and they will be allowed to take advantage of our generous and almost bankrupt medical and social services. Yes indeed, those new Pakastani relatives will make sure that they can get their relatives into Canada and living with them alright. Eventually it will be more money in their pockets for them at the host Canadian taxpayer's expense. These third world immigrants know how to take advantage of our generous welfare system and they will use it to their benefit.

White Canadian liberals will always be treated as fools by the third world because most of those white liberals are fools, and those third world immigrants know this, and they know how to get anything they want from those bleeding heart white liberals, and get into their hearts and pockets.

I'm sure you are told many times to loosen the tin foil-hat you must be wearing but as much as I hate conspiracy-theories I agree with most you wrote above. Everything what is going on in Europe and in the wider world regarding this so-called migrant-crisis is far too consistent to be co-incidental.

[CITIZEN_2015]

Many just sneak in, and when they get here shout refugee. Then the immigration refugee wheel starts to spin, and that refugee wheel could spin and spin for years until they can find out if they can stay or not. The slightest cry of persecution if they were sent back to their country will pretty much assure them that they will be able to stay in Canada and begin to suck off the system, and the Canadian taxpayer who pays for that system. Aw well.

I think Argus was referring to immigrants not refugees. I think that more than two-third of the 300,000 newcomers per year are immigrants who have PASSED the point system currently in place for immigration (unlike Europe, Canada and Australia have a point system in place in order to select immigrants based on skills and education). So I ask again as it has been claimed again and again and this is my question again: HOW those immigrants who have passed the point system based on education and skills are poor uneducated Chinese peasants or low income middle eastern or as it has been claimed are those who will stay om the welfare system forever?????

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[taxme]

I'm an increasing European Immigrant.

Wonderful to hear that. We need more white European immigrants to immigrate to Canada. Caucasians need to get their numbers back up in Canada to where they were ten decades ago.

[taxme]

I think Argus was referring to immigrants not refugees. I think that more than two-third of the 300,000 newcomers per year are immigrants who have PASSED the point system currently in place for immigration (unlike Europe, Canada and Australia have a point system in place in order to select immigrants based on skills and education). So I ask again as it has been claimed again and again and this is my question again: HOW those immigrants who have passed the point system based on education and skills are poor uneducated Chinese peasants or low income middle eastern non-migrants or as it has been claimed are those who will stay om the welfare system forever?????

Are you not getting the picture or the point? I have been asking this for so long now that I am starting to get tired of repeating it. Just why do we take in so many Chinese peasants or other peasants and low income middle eastern so-called refugees/migrants who are a burden on the Canadian taxpayer's in this country. I am against the numbers of third worlders coming into Canada who have nothing to offer Canadians except taking our tax dollars to feed, clothe and house them, and in some cases forever. Educated and skilled workers at times maybe be needed to fill some jobs but we don't have to go overboard on it.

[taxme]

I'm sure you are told many times to loosen the tin foil-hat you must be wearing but as much as I hate conspiracy-theories I agree with most you wrote above. Everything what is going on in Europe and in the wider world regarding this so-called migrant-crisis is far too consistent to be co-incidental.

Nice to see that you agree with some things I wrote. Sadly here, most do not. But hey.

I lost my tin foil hat long ago. I am much smarter for doing so now. I now luv going to all those conspiracy websites. They get me to think for myself about political things that are going on in the world where before I only let the tin foil western corporate liberal lame duck media do that for me. Try it sometime. Leave your tin foil hat on the hat rack for awhile. It's amazing what one can learn with out it on. Worked for me.

[CITIZEN_2015]

Wonderful to hear that. We need more white European immigrants to immigrate to Canada. Caucasians need to get their numbers back up in Canada to where they were ten decades ago.

Sorry to disappoint you but that is a fiction rather than a fact. I would like to see more good immigrants from Russia and Eastern Europe too than China and Syria but the fact remains that neither the right wing conservatives (even under the very right wing Harper) nor the liberals and certainly not the NDP would change the immigration policy and take white only or majority whites. Unless an extreme right party (one of those white supremacists in Alberta or BC come to power Federally but that is as fictitious as aliens in human form take over our planet. Canadians in great majority have and will reject extremism. They hate to be called racist or show even slightest racism (even though some may be but they don't show it publically and they know voting for one will make them look bad internationally). So the current trend will continue and I anticipate that most future Canadians will be of various races and will get along very well and inter-racial marriages will increase a lot and we will see a beautiful mixed race Canada. No one (white or non-white) will be a majority but it will be the land of love rather than hate though we must keep those hateful trash who are a minority even in their own homeland out of Canada (cultural selectivity not racial selectivity).

[-TSS-]

Nice to see that you agree with some things I wrote. Sadly here, most do not. But hey.

I lost my tin foil hat long ago. I am much smarter for doing so now. I now luv going to all those conspiracy websites. They get me to think for myself about political things that are going on in the world where before I only let the tin foil western corporate liberal lame duck media do that for me. Try it sometime. Leave your tin foil hat on the hat rack for awhile. It's amazing what one can learn with out it on. Worked for me.

The state of the media in the west is deplorable. The press is more like a poodle of the elite rather than a watchdog which it is supposed to be.

[WestCoastRunner]

Wonderful to hear that. We need more white European immigrants to immigrate to Canada. Caucasians need to get their numbers back up in Canada to where they were ten decades ago.

You ever watch United Shades of America? Give it a go sometime.

[CITIZEN_2015]

Are you not getting the picture or the point? I have been asking this for so long now that I am starting to get tired of repeating it. Just why do we take in so many Chinese peasants or other peasants and low income middle eastern so-called refugees/migrants who are a burden on the Canadian taxpayer's in this country. I am against the numbers of third worlders coming into Canada who have nothing to offer Canadians except taking our tax dollars to feed, clothe and house them, and in some cases forever. Educated and skilled workers at times maybe be needed to fill some jobs but we don't have to go overboard on it.

What I am saying is that the picture (and yes I get the picture you presenting) you and Argus are presenting is not the true picture of immigrants. The majority are educated or have skills (again I am referring to immigrants not refugees) who had to pass the exiting point system which is based on education and skills. So it can't be true that Chinese peasants and illiterate middle eastern can pass the system and settle in Canada and stay on welfare forever. Explain this please.

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[taxme]

Sorry to disappoint you but that is a fiction rather than a fact. I would like to see more good immigrants from Russia and Eastern Europe too than China and Syria but the fact remains that neither the right wing conservatives (even under the very right wing Harper) nor the liberals and certainly not the NDP would change the immigration policy and take white only or majority whites. Unless an extreme right party (one of those white supremacists in Alberta or BC come to power Federally but that is as fictitious as aliens in human form take over our planet. Canadians in great majority have and will reject extremism. They hate to be called racist or show even slightest racism (even though some may be but they don't show it publically and they know voting for one will make them look bad internationally). So the current trend will continue and I anticipate that most future Canadians will be of various races and will get along very well and inter-racial marriages will increase a lot and we will see a beautiful mixed race Canada. No one (white or non-white) will be a majority but it will be the land of love rather than hate though we must keep those hateful trash who are a minority even in their own homeland out of Canada (cultural selectivity not racial selectivity).

Spoken like a true internationalist communist. The world has become more racist because of the internationalists who have tried to max the races together. Many are against that happening. Only a person who is not proud of who they are and their race will enter into an intermarriage arrangement with someone of another race. Fine, if that is what they want too, but I certainly do not have to agree with it. In the internationalists dream, mass 3rd world immigration will be the new means to changing the racial make up of the new world order and the white race world population will be replaced by the eventual race mixing that will happen if trends of present day immigration policy of flooding white countries with non-whites is allowed to continue on. It will produce a rootless population where the world is your home. Sounds nice but I don'twant anything to do with it. I am a white Canadian and proud of it and I want to keep my race alive and well. I wonder if anybody ever bothered to ask the Indians in Canada if they are in favor and would like to see their culture and traditions mixed with other races and then have their culture disappear forever and end up with what?

[taxme]

You ever watch United Shades of America? Give it a go sometime.

I think I got your drift here. Does it have something to do with the mixing of the races? If so, I am not interested in propaganda pushing shows on TV.

[taxme]

The state of the media in the west is deplorable. The press is more like a poodle of the elite rather than a watchdog which it is supposed to be.

I agree with what you said. The corporate lame duck media will never be there for we the peasants. The globalist elite pull the strings of the western media reporters. The reporter/s are not free to say what needs to be said, and instead will sell his/her soul to the corporate media devil, and will help them to spread their lies and misinformation to the gullible fools who will read and listen to what they push as lies. Indeed, the media is deplorable.

[CITIZEN_2015]

Spoken like a true internationalist communist. The world has become more racist because of the internationalists who have tried to max the races together. Many are against that happening. Only a person who is not proud of who they are and their race will enter into an intermarriage arrangement with someone of another race. Fine, if that is what they want too, but I certainly do not have to agree with it. In the internationalists dream, mass 3rd world immigration will be the new means to changing the racial make up of the new world order and the white race world population will be replaced by the eventual race mixing that will happen if trends of present day immigration policy of flooding white countries with non-whites is allowed to continue on. It will produce a rootless population where the world is your home. Sounds nice but I don'twant anything to do with it. I am a white Canadian and proud of it and I want to keep my race alive and well. I wonder if anybody ever bothered to ask the Indians in Canada if they are in favor and would like to see their culture and traditions mixed with other races and then have their culture disappear forever and end up with what?

I know where you are coming from and i tell you a secret that I used to have that kind of thinking myself when I was in my teens and 20's but I matured up as I mixed up with many people of white race I realized that they are as much faulty in many aspects as any other race. You calling me a communist (which I think you did) reminded me of another poster (Rue) who last year called me a Muslim fanatic!!!! or Argus who asked me if I am supporting ISIS!!!!! All my posts have proven I am totally the opposite of both. Again I have explained my reasons why I do support mix race because I don't see any advantage or disadvantages of any race over the other. I have seen children of mixed race marriages and they are beautiful in fact some are in my own family, Again I don't know why you are obsessed with your white race and why you think it is do precious that you must retain it or the world would end. The only reason that comes to my mind as was the case with me is that you think whites are better or super race. I may sound like a broken record but I say it again hoping that I get through to you. Under the skin everyone is the same. It is the size of heart and mind that matters not skin color. Again you did not answer my question on the point system we have for immigrants. How cam Chinese peasants and illiterate middle easterns get in in a system which is based on education and skills????

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[-TSS-]

Nothing to do with the colour of the skin. More likely to do with empirical evidence as to why South-Africa is easily the wealthiest country in Africa. I wonder why.

Or more pointedly, how could Rhodesia, the present-day Zimbabwe, be so prosperous only such a short time ago and look at its state now. I wonder why that is. Do you?

Or closer to your home, the Dominican Republic and Haiti share the same tiny island but are two different countries. The D Rep is not exactly a very wealthy country but it is a world away compared to its neighbour. I wonder why. Do you?

[CITIZEN_2015]

Nothing to do with the colour of the skin. More likely to do with empirical evidence as to why South-Africa is easily the wealthiest country in Africa. I wonder why.

Or more pointedly, how could Rhodesia, the present-day Zimbabwe, be so prosperous only such a short time ago and look at its state now. I wonder why that is. Do you?

Or closer to your home, the Dominican Republic and Haiti share the same tiny island but are two different countries. The D Rep is not exactly a very wealthy country but it is a world away compared to its neighbour. I wonder why. Do you?

Yes the climate and resources were much richer in those two countries than rest of Africa, That was likely why the white exploiters chose those two countries over Sudan or Somalia. Now one may ask why it were the whites who traveled all the way to Africa to colonize the two countries in Africa and not blacks moving to Europe and colonizing the whites?

[-TSS-]

Yes the climate and resources were much richer in those two countries than rest of Africa, That was likely why the white exploiters chose those two countries over Sudan or Somalia. Now one may ask why it were the whites who traveled all the way to Africa to colonize the two countries in Africa and not blacks moving to Europe and colonizing the whites?

Congo also has vast natural resources. Why is Congo not one of the richest countries in the world as it should be?

[CITIZEN_2015]

Congo also has vast natural resources. Why is Congo not one of the richest countries in the world as it should be?

Because the whites didn't go to Congo to make it an industrial country for whatever reason. Likely because it had a central government and could defend itself against white invaders. The truth is the evolution. Europe went through the industrial revolution much sooner than others. Hence they built ships and engines to travel and guns to colonize. Why Europe first and before others? because it was white race? I don't think so. Many thousands of years ago it was the Egyptians (Africans) and later Romans (whites) and Persians who colonized and ruled the world.Then it was Arabs and Mongols and Turks and then Northern Europeans (British, Germans), and Slavic race (Russians) came last. I guess one may say they all had their turns and ups and downs regardless of skin color one time or another all races ruled the world. It so happens that right now it is the white turn ruling.......

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[-TSS-]

Because the whites didn't go to Congo to make it an industrial country for whatever reason. Likely because it had a central government and could defend itself against white invaders. The truth is the evolution. Europe went through the industrial revolution much sooner than others. Hence they built ships and engines to travel and guns to colonize. Why Europe first and before others? because it was white race? I don't think so. Many thousands of years ago it was the Egyptians (Africans) and later Romans (whites) and Persians who colonized and ruled the world.Then it was Arabs and Mongols and Turks and then Northern Europeans (British, Germans), and Slavic race (Russians) came last. I guess one may say they all had their turns and ups and downs?

I don't totally disagree with you. Namely, as if you go to the British Museum in London you will see all the jewels and treasures there on the show and the British are showing them off as if it were their property as in reality everything was robbed and stolen from their colonies, mainly India which really would be like America today if it were not for the British rule.

[CITIZEN_2015]

I don't totally disagree with you. Namely, as if you go to the British Museum in London you will see all the jewels and treasures there on the show and the British are showing them off as if it were their property as in reality everything was robbed and stolen from their colonies, mainly India which really would be like America today if it were not for the British rule.

I have been there a few times and I agree in part. I don;t agree India would have been America because of the culture they have,

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