Transformed!

[betsy]

Well the real kicker is , you are not going to find love in a porn mag. And many adults don't know the difference between lust and love.

No, the real kicker is: you didn't understand what you were responding to!

betsy, on 07 Jul 2016 - 10:15 AM, said:

At the age of 12, if you'd seen a porn mag of two men having sex - it will affect you.

How can it not? You're at that age!

Now Betsy, this is what men do when they are in love (ha) , that's how I would explain it to a 12 year old.

I had a school teacher who left his family because he no longer could deny that he was gay. Talk about a transformation.

http://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums/topic/25884-transformed/page-11

Edited July 8, 2016 by betsy

[GostHacked]

No, the real kicker is: you didn't understand what you were responding to!

You are right, I have no idea wtf you are talking about.

[Bryan]

So a gay person has to be celibate and live a life without sex to get closer to GOD. That's messed up.

All sinners have to strive to turn away from whatever their sin is to get closer to GOD. His house, his rules. If you want to go and do your own thing elsewhere, that's fine too.

It's about changing the gender you're attracted to.
Which doesn't happen.

You're arguing from a position of ignorance. You haven't seen something, so you think it doesn't exist. I know that it does, because I have seen it first hand.

[BC_chick]

40 some years ago the backseat, and even the front seat, was a comfortable place to do it. Even in the large SUVs, you rarely find a bench seat anymore. I blame that loss on the Japanese.

This is true. Even 25 years ago we had better back seats, now it's all about the bucket seats. Behold the solution:

https://www.amazon.com/Cushion-Bedroom-Inflation-Mattress-Extended/dp/B00K8EJA5Y

[BC_chick]

No doubt, the way our society regard sexual preferences this days - that it's very much normal to be bisexual, as an example - will become a major factor why we'll have more people dabbling in bisexuality.

And exactly how is your life impacted by other people being bisexual?

[betsy]

You are right, I have no idea wtf you are talking about.

Read what I was replying to! That's the sensible thing to do.

[BC_chick]

And exactly how is your life impacted by other people being bisexual?

Betsy, please answer this question, I'm so curious why you care so much about this issue.

[cybercoma]

Betsy, please answer this question, I'm so curious why you care so much about this issue.

Im still wondering when she chose to be straight and chose to identify as a woman, since these are all choices people can make, you see.

[betsy]

And exactly how is your life impacted by other people being bisexual?

And exactly how does my stance on LGBT issues impact you?

WestCoastRunner, Cybercoma and Jacee seem to be highly impacted by my position.

WCR goes even to the extent of wanting to resort to censorship! Or, intervention by Moderator.

Why does it matter whether I'm directly impacted, or not?

Can't I make a stance on issues that doesn't touch me at all? Does it have to have an impact on me?

Do you react to issues ONLY when you are impacted? If it doesn't affect your life in any way, you wouldn't care if it affects others?

That's a good projection of the I, ME, MINE mentality. If it's not about me, who cares! Right?

That's what I'm getting from your question.

Here's what you quoted me:

betsy No doubt, the way our society regard sexual preferences this days - that it's very much normal to be bisexual, as an example - will become a major factor why we'll have more people dabbling in bisexuality.

What I stated is a fact! If it's acceptable - and it's being taught in schools it's okay to try any sexual preference(s) - you think no one will be dabbling in it?

When marijuana becomes legal - you don't think there will be people who'd never smoked it, have a shot at it?

Furthermore, if you're so interested about my position, you should try to read my preceding posts to Moonlight.

Edited July 8, 2016 by betsy

[betsy]

It's says a lot about our society when we can watch violence on TV and we enjoy it, but when we see 2 men kissing on TV some of us are repelled in disgust. What are our damn priorities?

Violence on tv now wasn't the same in the 50's. So's the content for sitcoms! Transitions happen.

Give it some time and the audience will be conditioned and anesthesized to seeing gays having sex on tv.

That's all part of the agenda to make LGBT lifestyle, mainstream. Watch the OP video.

By that time, who knows - maybe, we'll be cringing watching old men giving wet kisses to children.

Edited July 8, 2016 by betsy

[WestCoastRunner]

And exactly how does my stance on LGBT issues impact you?

What I stated is a fact! If it's acceptable - and it's being taught in schools it's okay to try any sexual preference(s) - you think no one will be dabbling in it?

Your homophobic stance and the rest of your other homophobic christians greatly impacts society. Why do you think we are challenging you?

Further, would you like the school system to further bury our childrens and grandchildrens heads in the sand by not teaching sex-ed, or clinics offering confidential birth control services and education on STDs? After all, if we teach it to them, they may actually try and have sex.

They are going to have sex anyway, whether it's with the same gender or not and whether or not sex-ed is taught in schools. Would it not make more sense to educate our children so they don't end up pregnant, bullied, confused, or with an STD?

[WestCoastRunner]

Give it some time and the audience will be conditioned and anesthesized to seeing gays having sex on tv.

That's all part of the agenda to make LGBT lifestyle, mainstream. Watch the OP video.

By that time, who knows - maybe, we'll be cringing watching old men giving wet kisses to children.

There you go again. Discussing the LGBT community in the same paragraph as pedophiles.

[betsy]

Your homophobic stance and the rest of your other homophobic christians greatly impacts society. Why do you think we are challenging you?

Further, would you like the school system to further bury our childrens and grandchildrens heads in the sand by not teaching sex-ed, or clinics offering confidential birth control services and education on STDs? After all, if we teach it to them, they may actually try and have sex.

They are going to have sex anyway, whether it's with the same gender or not and whether or not sex-ed is taught in schools. Would it not make more sense to educate our children so they don't end up pregnant, bullied, confused, or with an STD?

We have differing opinions. I can say the same things to you.

"Sex-ed," is what they like to call it, but it's more than just that! And we know it!

If no one caught this, it would still be available to children:

Toronto school board web link offers kinky sex advice

An astounding link on the Toronto District School Board website which entices children to experiment sexually with vegetables has a Christian group calling for a criminal investigation.

Yet, on the TDSB site, you will find — under the heading Coalition for Positive Sexuality — a link called “Just Say Yes, pro sex” which champions encounters with vegetables and other experimental options.

It describes how an individual “could suck, kiss, touch, bite, fondle, nibble, squeeze and lick someone’s body, nipples, calves, toes, neck” and other areas. It talks of masturbation in front of the mirror, acting out fantasies and using sex toys.

It was already way over the top to find a link like this on the TDSB website. But it’s the next passage that caught the eye of the eagle-eyed Blazing Cat Fur blogspot that has McVety and others concerned.

“Play with your own or someone else’s a-- or vagina, put your fingers, dildoes, vegetables, or butt plugs into them,” is what it states.

“Teaching our children to sexually experiment (or) ‘play with your own or someone else’s a-- or vagina, put your fingers, dildoes, vegetables or butt plugs into them’ most certainly endangers children,” wrote McVety.

http://www.torontosun.com/2012/09/26/sex-advice-on-tdsb-website-angers-christian-advocate

What's being taught and encouraged in schools will impact society.

Edited July 8, 2016 by betsy

[jacee]

All sinners have to strive to turn away from whatever their sin is to get closer to GOD. His house, his rules. If you want to go and do your own thing elsewhere, that's fine too.

'God' didn't make those rules.

Men did.

Churches (corporate entities) do.

You're arguing from a position of ignorance. You haven't seen something, so you think it doesn't exist. I know that it does, because I have seen it first hand.

Keep us posted.

.

[Bryan]

'God' didn't make those rules.

Men did.

Churches (corporate entities) do.

Some churches do make their own rules, but that is not what I'm referring to.

[WestCoastRunner]

We have differing opinion. I can say the same things to you.

How does the LGBT community negatively affect society?

[WestCoastRunner]

Betsy, can you provide the link to that kinky website that was posted on the TSB? I can't find it anywhere.

[jacee]

Some churches do make their own rules, but that is not what I'm referring to.

Some churches do make rules against homosexuality, and some don't.

None of them speak for 'God', and 'God' didn't make the rules.

It's people who discriminate against homosexuals.

.

Edited July 8, 2016 by jacee

[betsy]

There you go again. Discussing the LGBT community in the same paragraph as pedophiles.

You and Jacee, are the ones who's associating the LGBT synonymously with pedophilia!

You think Pedophile groups aren't trying to fight for what they think is also their right to sexual orientation? When the gay rights movement first started, society was being warned about opening the can of worms!

Monday, 28 September 2015

Shocking Times: Movement for Pedophile “Rights” Marches On

“Using the same tactics used by ‘gay’ rights activists, pedophiles have begun to seek similar status arguing their desire for children is a sexual orientation no different than heterosexual or homosexuals [sic],” wrote Jack Minor for the Northern Colorado Gazette.

On January 14 of this year, the Los Angeles Times ran an article entitled, “Many researchers taking a different view of pedophilia: Pedophilia once was thought to stem from psychological influences early in life. Now, many experts view it as a deep-rooted predisposition that does not change.” (Emphasis in original.) The piece starts out with a story about one Paul Christiano, who, as a young child, was fascinated by girls and loved “how their spindly bodies tumbled in gymnastics,” wrote the paper. We’re then told that while Christiano grew up, his sexual tastes didn’t: He remained tormented by an attraction to pre-pubescent girls. Christiano is the “sympathetic character,” mind you, the hapless soul meant to put a human face on pedophilia. But now consider what he said about unsuccessful court-ordered therapy he was forced to undergo after being caught with child pornography in 1999. As the Times reported, “‘These people felt they could snuff out the desire, or shame me into denying it existed,’ he said. ‘But it’s as intrinsic as the next person’s heterosexuality.’”

“As intrinsic as the next person’s heterosexuality… ” Where have we heard that before?

It may be hard to believe that pedophilia is following the well-worn path of homosexuality. But know that not only is there great historical precedent for the sexualization of minors — pederasty was widely accepted in ancient Athens and Sparta — we already see tolerance for pedophilia among our “elites.” Consider the following:

• Obama’s military brass has ordered American soldiers in Afghanistan to ignore the sexual abuse of young boys by Afghan “allies” — even on U.S. military bases — partially in deference to “cultural sensitivity.”

• The media have largely ignored child sex abuse in government schools, despite a 2004 government-sponsored study indicating that it is 100 times the magnitude of the Catholic Church sex scandal.

• Hollywood pedophiles are apparently “everywhere, like vultures,” as former child actor Cory Feldman put it, but are protected by power and privilege.

• Likewise, the powers-that-be have long protected pedophiles within the British government.

• Also in the U.K., politically correct authorities have ignored Muslim child sex-trafficking rings for fear of being called “racist.”

Of course, there’s a difference between the “elites” and the man of the street. But realize that the homosexuality agenda’s embrace also began among the former, finding a home in academia and then being mainstreamed by media and entertainment. Also realize that the “Who’s to judge?” mantra may be convenient when justifying one’s favored sins. But if the things we like are all relative, the things we dislike are relative, too.

As novelist Walter Scott might agree, “What a tangled web we weave when first we practise to deceive” — ourselves with fashionable philoso-babble.

http://www.thenewamerican.com/culture/item/21664-shocking-times-movement-for-pedophile-rights-marches-on

Edited July 8, 2016 by betsy

[betsy]

How does the LGBT community negatively affect society?

Who's talking about the LGBT community?

I'm talking about what's being promoted and taught in schools!

Edited July 8, 2016 by betsy

[WestCoastRunner]

WTF are you talking about? One has nothing to do with the other.

[betsy]

Betsy, can you provide the link to that kinky website that was posted on the TSB? I can't find it anywhere.

They'd already taken it down after parents complained about it.

[Bryan]

Some churches do make rules against homosexuality, and some don't.

Some follow GOD's rules against homosexuality, others make up their own.

[WestCoastRunner]

I'm asking you again Betsy. How does the LGBT community negatively affect society?

[betsy]

WTF are you talking about? One has nothing to do with the other.

You're not following the discussion.

Backtrack and review the conversation. I can't spoon-feed you. Bye.