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Very interesting judgement.

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In a stunning and unusual family law decision, a Toronto judge has stripped a mother of custody of her three children after the woman spent more than a decade trying to alienate them from their father.

The mother's "consistent and overwhelming" campaign to brainwash the children into thinking their father was a bad person was nothing short of emotional abuse, Justice Faye McWatt of the Superior Court of Justice wrote in her decision.

One assumes that in the interest of children, parents wouldn't do this.

But some do.

This may be the first time custody has been changed.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parental_alienation_syndrome

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What are you talking about? I've been told by forum members that family court judgments only go to mothers. I call BS on this article. It must be fabricated.

Judgements like this are few and far between and likely only occurred because the father had money. Many middle class fathers are screwed over by the courts because they don't have money to fight unfairness and they are not poor enough to get legal aid.
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I don't think this case is going to be a game changer. The mother's actions weren't just spiteful toward the dad, she was also willfully obstructing their custody arrangements. I'm surprised it took that long to lose the kids.

Having said that, this is an extreme instance and not representative of most divorced couples. Some level of animosity is normal after a bad breakup and I don't think it would pose a threat to the custody arrangements.

It's kind of the worst thing that any humans could be doing at this time in human history. Other than that, it's fine." Bill Nye on Alberta Oil Sands

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I think the judge did what his job is to do. Do what is best for the children.

Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.

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The mother's actions weren't just spiteful toward the dad, she was also willfully obstructing their custody arrangements.

This is a lot more common that you would like to acknowledge. That is why many people think that child support should only be paid if the custodial parent abides by the spirit of the court mandated custodial arrangements.
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This is a lot more common that you would like to acknowledge. That is why many people think that child support should only be paid if the custodial parent abides by the spirit of the court mandated custodial arrangements.

Sounds fair to me.

I don't know how common it is in your circles but in my kid's class I know of 3 couples who split. All three have 50/50 and keep a cordial relationship via text.

I find most of the dads who whine about the ex are the ones who don't make their kids a priority and then get mad when the kids aren't available on a whim when it suits them.

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It's kind of the worst thing that any humans could be doing at this time in human history. Other than that, it's fine." Bill Nye on Alberta Oil Sands

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Judgements like this are few and far between and likely only occurred because the father had money. Many middle class fathers are screwed over by the courts because they don't have money to fight unfairness and they are not poor enough to get legal aid.

I think you are right about the money. However, now that there's a precedent it may be easier in the future.

This is relevant to mothers too. It is not a gender-based problem.

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I don't think this case is going to be a game changer. The mother's actions weren't just spiteful toward the dad, she was also willfully obstructing their custody arrangements. I'm surprised it took that long to lose the kids.

Having said that, this is an extreme instance and not representative of most divorced couples. Some level of animosity is normal after a bad breakup and I don't think it would pose a threat to the custody arrangements.

It's interesting that the defining characteristic for parental alienation- according to wiki - is not just the parent's behaviour, but the children disparaging one parent.

I think this was a very wise judge:

"Having said that, there are some people and I think some of them are suffering from personality disorders who will not respond to therapy and will not respond to directions from judges."

Try not to partner with one of those beauties!

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