Canada Relations With Israel

[Argus]

Real oil matters...not the bitumen sludge pipeline Obama rejected for another "ally". The Saudis buy American made kit just like the Canadians and Israelis do, and don't whine about the costs nearly as much. Also, there is lots of anti-'Murican rhetoric to be found in Canada, right here in this forum.

Honestly, if you'e not going to be serious, why bother to even post anything?

[bush_cheney2004]

Honestly, if you'e not going to be serious, why bother to even post anything?

Sorry, but the United States has a lot more going on than safe and simple Canada, including Israel and the Saudis. And there is nothing you can do about it...seriously.

[On Guard for Thee]

Sorry, but the United States has a lot more going on than safe and simple Canada, including Israel and the Saudis. And there is nothing you can do about it...seriously.

I prefer safe and simple to dangerous and stupid. Iraq invasion comes to mind.

Edited November 29, 2015 by On Guard for Thee

[bush_cheney2004]

The truth is that Canada can't even define, let alone execute an independent foreign policy for Israel that is divorced from the United States.

The BDS Israel warriors from Canada don't have the political or economic guts to go after the American economy that aides Israel because it strikes so close to home....hypocrites.

[CITIZEN_2015]

No body says human rights in Israel is violated. It is the human rights outside of Israel (in occupied lands) which is constantly violated. Not to mention raids by Israeli army and soldiers resulting in many civilian deaths including many innocent defenseless women and children. Does Iran raid other countries or the lands it has occupied to bomb or kill civilians? No.

I admire Iran because it was an empire and a great civilization of Aryan origin, It brought in the very first charter of human rights in human history, Recently It stood up to the arrogant powers and in many occasions defeated those powers even in recent negotiations. It is the only country no superpower dared to invade or attack (unlike Iraq and Afghanistan). It developed itself and protected its revolution in spite of the fact that the whole world tried to destroy it and the world imposed the most severe sanctions and they came out of it victorious. In spite of all sanctions and military invasion (by Iraq) and threats of military attacks by US and Israel they came out victorious and progressing fast and non-stop with sacrifices they made with their lives (example they ran through the mine fields and blew themselves up in order to liberate their occupied lands occupied by the US-BRITAIN-FRANCE-RUSSIA backed regime of Saddam Hussein).

Edited December 2, 2015 by CITIZEN_2015

[SpankyMcFarland]

Why would I go to Iran?

What? You don't need to travel far in Canada to meet Iranians.

[SpankyMcFarland]

Israel has good relations with Russia which has good relations with Iran. Iran, Russia, Turkey and Israel are all relating with each other, despite the threat of imminent war between some of them, in ways that would greatly surprise some of us. It is surely not beyond our capacity a continent away to get on with all of them. Harper just got carried away with his desire to support Netanyahu unconditionally and that is not in our national interest to do. We don't need to make enemies unnecessarily.

[Argus]

Again you are mixing up the two. There is Iran and its nation and there is a government. Two different entities. Islamic Republic does not represent Iran or Iranian people if as you say it is not democratically elected. Iranian people are the ones who have parties in hiding, drinking and dancing with boys and girls mixing and having fun

And for every one of those urban college educated people drinking in quiet there are a hundred rural Iranians zealously praying to Allah and beating their wives whenever they do anything which irritates the man of the house. They aren't on social media, and they are largely invisible to outsiders, but the strain of conservatism runs very deep in Iran.

No body says human rights in Israel is violated. It is the human rights outside of Israel (in occupied lands) which is constantly violated. Not to mention raids by Israeli army and soldiers resulting in many civilian deaths including many innocent defenseless women and children. Does Iran raid other countries or the lands it has occupied to bomb or kill civilians? No.

How many border states launch rockets across the Iranian border to kill their people? How many attack Iranian border posts or harbor terrorists who sneak into Iran to slaughter men, women and children? Yet despite this Iran has been very active in sending Revolutionary Guards to help destabilize its neighbors, especially Afghanistan and Iraq.

I am not saying Iran will invade Israel but if Israel is stupid enough to attack Iran then it will indeed pay a high price for that. Likely at the cost of its destruction. Btw, Iran backed militia are at and around Israeli borders and so are over 2000 Iranian military right now in Syria again bordering Israel and if Israel attacks Iran they can increase to 200,000.

So you are openly admiring of the fact that Iran repeatedly commits acts of war against Israel, and crowing that if Israel dares to respond Iran will destroy them? First, you vastly overestimate Iran's ability to project power, and the sophistication of its military. In a direct conflict between Iran and Israel Iran will be annihilated. Second, you are championing a brutal, backward theocratic state against a democracy. Which says nothing good about you.

I admire Iran because it was an empire and a great civilization of Aryan origin,

And Italy was a brilliant military superpower, but it no longer is. And Ethiopia was a great empire, but is now a backwater. Why would you admire a country for its distant past?

It developed itself and protected its revolution in spite of the fact that the whole world tried to destroy it and the world imposed the most severe sanctions and they came out of it victorious.

The world didn't impose sanctions until they started trying to build nuclear weapons. Tell me, do you admire North Korea since the whole world despises them and yet they persevere? Is there no assessment of morality anywhere to be found in your world view? Would you admire any brutal, murdering dictator who persevered? Do you admire ISIS?

Edited November 29, 2015 by Argus

[CITIZEN_2015]

This is complete misinformation and if you are saying is knowingly then it is a lie. 70% of Iran population are urban. About a third still live in rural areas. There are over 25 million college/university educated Iranians and millions are currently students 70% of them female and literacy rate in Iran is 98% and you paint a false picture of something like Afghanistan or Arabia that for every urban educated college person there are hundreds in rural areas who are religious fanatics and beat up their wives!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Israel is paying for its past and present brutal actions if there are raids inside that country.

Yes the very same countries who themselves have developed many thousands of nuclear warheads dared to imposed sanctions on Iran because Iran was researching to develop a few and they thought they are stronger and can forced their dictatorial arrogant will on a weaker nation what a hypocrisy. but the nation of Iran fought back and came out self sufficient and victorious..

And it self sufficiency despite of severe sanctions.

http://en.trend.az/iran/politics/2462657.html

Iran has manufactured its own tanks, armored personnel carriers, missiles, radars, boats, submarines and fighter planes since 1992. Iran also unveiled its first domestically-manufactured long-range Unmanned Aerial Vehicle (UAV) in 2010.

Not to mention women in Iran have far more participation rate than most advanced western cultures including Canada

http://www.forbes.com/sites/amyguttman/2015/12/09/set-to-take-over-tech-70-of-irans-science-and-engineering-students-are-women/

You asking me if I admire a murderous terrorist organization (ISIS) is too stupid for me even to give it any credit by answering the question you try to discredit and insult me by this question.

It is very nice to see that arrogant powers defeated and an underdog coming out victorious. It is great to see those racists and haters humiliated and a thorn in their eyes to see Iran (which because most are uneducated illiterates) they falsely think Iran is an Arab country rather than an Aryan nation with highly educated population becoming a future superpower to stand up more against arrogant countries.

Edited December 9, 2015 by CITIZEN_2015