Bryan Posted October 31, 2015 Report Posted October 31, 2015 I think, if the CPC is smart, that they would select a leader from outside Alberta who is more PC than CPC... They'll lose more than they gain by that. There's a reason the PCs don't exist anymore.
BC_chick Posted October 31, 2015 Report Posted October 31, 2015 What's the reason, Bryan? It's kind of the worst thing that any humans could be doing at this time in human history. Other than that, it's fine." Bill Nye on Alberta Oil Sands
socialist Posted October 31, 2015 Report Posted October 31, 2015 What's the reason, Bryan? The reason is that the former PC's where exactly the same s the Liberals. Both parties were controlled by Power Corp. That's the reason. Thankful to have become a free thinker.
ToadBrother Posted October 31, 2015 Report Posted October 31, 2015 They'll lose more than they gain by that. There's a reason the PCs don't exist anymore. You might have noticed the Tories were completely shut out of the Maritimes, heavily damaged in Ontario and have little to show for Quebec. If they want to be a national party, the Reform fetishism of Western Tories has to die.
angrypenguin Posted October 31, 2015 Report Posted October 31, 2015 Should the permanent leader be from outside Alberta then? Is that what you mean? Would it be fair to not even consider Albertan CPC members? I think, if the CPC is smart, that they would select a leader from outside Alberta who is more PC than CPC... Precisely why Harper never filled the deputy PM headcount. My views are my own and not those of my employer.
SpankyMcFarland Posted November 1, 2015 Report Posted November 1, 2015 (edited) The Tories seemed to lose faith in their ethnic strategy with C24 and the niqab/cultural practices furor. It hurt their candidates in the GTA, as Paul Calandra noted, and made them look more like a throwback to Reform. I can tell you right now that C24 raises a question mark in the mind of any naturalized Canadian as to whether the list of crimes meriting loss of citizenship will be extended at some point. If they want to be a national party like the Liberals, they have some decisions to make. Edited November 1, 2015 by SpankyMcFarland
SpankyMcFarland Posted November 1, 2015 Report Posted November 1, 2015 What's with this stampede for the interim post? Does it come with Air Miles or something? A coronation for Kenney would not be good for him or the party.
Argus Posted November 1, 2015 Report Posted November 1, 2015 You might have noticed the Tories were completely shut out of the Maritimes, heavily damaged in Ontario and have little to show for Quebec. If they want to be a national party, the Reform fetishism of Western Tories has to die. Fetish? You mean a desire for small, efficient, honest government? I wasn't aware that was a western fetish. Maybe I should start adjusting my porn feeds. The Tories actually increased their representation in Quebec. They took over thirty seats in Ontario. They were shut out of the Atlantic provinces, but that's largely because the candyman pranced and danced and smiled and waved and threw promises of more and more money at the pogey provinces, and of course, they had no reason not to dance along with him. "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
SpankyMcFarland Posted November 1, 2015 Report Posted November 1, 2015 (edited) Fetish? You mean a desire for small, efficient, honest government? I wasn't aware that was a western fetish. Maybe I should start adjusting my porn feeds. The Tories actually increased their representation in Quebec. They took over thirty seats in Ontario. They were shut out of the Atlantic provinces, but that's largely because the candyman pranced and danced and smiled and waved and threw promises of more and more money at the pogey provinces, and of course, they had no reason not to dance along with him. Your contempt for a whole region of this country mirrors that of your leader. Which is why he got no seats here. How come you can away with that on this forum? Edited November 1, 2015 by SpankyMcFarland
Argus Posted November 1, 2015 Report Posted November 1, 2015 You contempt for a whole region of this country mirrors that of your leader. Which is why he got no seats here. How come you can away with that on this forum? You people on the Left are horrified by the very concept of freedom of speech, aren't you? "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
angrypenguin Posted November 1, 2015 Report Posted November 1, 2015 (edited) After reading Harper's biography, I'll have to say I hope Kenney gets the job. I'm impressed at how hard he worked to whip up the immigrant vote. Edited November 1, 2015 by angrypenguin My views are my own and not those of my employer.
The_Squid Posted November 1, 2015 Report Posted November 1, 2015 What's with this stampede for the interim post? Does it come with Air Miles or something? A coronation for Kenney would not be good for him or the party. It comes with an $80k per year bonus, larger staff and a car and driver. Plus some other stuff I'm sure....
angrypenguin Posted November 1, 2015 Report Posted November 1, 2015 It comes with an $80k per year bonus, larger staff and a car and driver. Plus some other stuff I'm sure.... And a place to live. Stornoway? I thought the car and driver was only when Parliament was in session though? (I'm not 100% sure about Stornoway as Parliament isn't in session...) My views are my own and not those of my employer.
The_Squid Posted November 1, 2015 Report Posted November 1, 2015 Fetish? You mean a desire for small, efficient, honest government? I wasn't aware that was a western fetish. Those descriptors above are none of the things that this government delivered at all. It's the xenophobic, "old stock", real Canadians kind of garbage that is a turnoff to anyone outside their base.
Argus Posted November 1, 2015 Report Posted November 1, 2015 Those descriptors above are none of the things that this government delivered at all. I disagree. It's the xenophobic, "old stock", real Canadians kind of garbage that is a turnoff to anyone outside their base. Interesting, then, that 'new Canadians' are more likely to vote Conservative than 'old stock Canadians'. Apparently they aren't as capable of detecting xenophobia as the "tolerant" Left "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
angrypenguin Posted November 1, 2015 Report Posted November 1, 2015 Those descriptors above are none of the things that this government delivered at all. It's the xenophobic, "old stock", real Canadians kind of garbage that is a turnoff to anyone outside their base. Rhetoric. Go look up the facts. The Harper government has shrunk considerably vs any Liberal government. My views are my own and not those of my employer.
The_Squid Posted November 1, 2015 Report Posted November 1, 2015 I disagree.Interesting, then, that 'new Canadians' are more likely to vote Conservative than 'old stock Canadians'.Apparently they aren't as capable of detecting xenophobia as the "tolerant" Left Provide us a cite for your demographic claims.
The_Squid Posted November 1, 2015 Report Posted November 1, 2015 (edited) Rhetoric. Go look up the facts. The Harper government has shrunk considerably vs any Liberal government.oh really? Here's a chart of gov't expenditures over the years. The charts go to 2012, but to say that they spent less than any Liberal governement ever is either a bald-faced lie, or an ignorant claim. It's so easy to check whether you know what you're talking about, but you didn't bother. http://www.taxpayer.com/media/Federal%20Expenditures%20by%20Year%20and%20%20Item,%20Adjusted%20for%20Inflation(1).pdf Edited November 1, 2015 by The_Squid
poochy Posted November 1, 2015 Report Posted November 1, 2015 I suppose it would be dificult to spend less than the 90's liberals who decimated the country with budget cuts, actual real ones, unlike the phony lies that have been told about the conservatives, i doubt you much care about that truth. anyway, and fyi. your links dont work.
The_Squid Posted November 1, 2015 Report Posted November 1, 2015 I suppose it would be dificult to spend less than the 90's liberals who decimated the country with budget cuts, actual real ones, unlike the phony lies that have been told about the conservatives, i doubt you much care about that truth. anyway, and fyi. your links dont work. I thought conservatives wanted smaller government... do you, or don't you? Or does it just depend on if your favourite party is in power? What comes out of conservative mouths: Smaller gov't = good Spending = bad The reality: cuts if done by Liberals = bad Conservative record spending and deficits = good
angrypenguin Posted November 1, 2015 Report Posted November 1, 2015 oh really? Here's a chart of gov't expenditures over the years. The charts go to 2012, but to say that they spent less than any Liberal governement ever is either a bald-faced lie, or an ignorant claim. It's so easy to check whether you know what you're talking about, but you didn't bother. http://www.taxpayer.com/media/Federal%20Expenditures%20by%20Year%20and%20%20Item,%20Adjusted%20for%20Inflation(1).pdf Go lookup the Government's own #'s. Hell go look it up in Harper's biography, not not autobiography as there isn't one. My views are my own and not those of my employer.
The_Squid Posted November 1, 2015 Report Posted November 1, 2015 So, rather than Statistics Canada numbers, I should be reading about it in a book about Harper? OK, got it.... lol
angrypenguin Posted November 1, 2015 Report Posted November 1, 2015 So, rather than Statistics Canada numbers, I should be reading about it in a book about Harper? OK, got it.... lol My views are my own and not those of my employer.
Triple M Posted November 1, 2015 Report Posted November 1, 2015 gov spending to GDP is low since the Dief years if I remember reading right maybe that is what is being referee to
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