cybercoma Posted October 15, 2015 Report Posted October 15, 2015 I guess this is the Liberal response to the campaign co-chair stepping down. This will get even less traction. Joe Oliver apparently billed for flight and hotel upgrades, as well as a $16 drink. It wasn't orange juice this time though. http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2015/10/14/receipts-show-finance-minister-billed-for-flight-upgrades-exclusive-hotel-rooms_n_8295620.html Quote
Moonlight Graham Posted October 15, 2015 Report Posted October 15, 2015 With the waste that occurs throughout our government, that should be scandalous, this is like a drop in a bucket. Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
ToadBrother Posted October 15, 2015 Report Posted October 15, 2015 I guess this is the Liberal response to the campaign co-chair stepping down. This will get even less traction. Joe Oliver apparently billed for flight and hotel upgrades, as well as a $16 drink. It wasn't orange juice this time though. http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2015/10/14/receipts-show-finance-minister-billed-for-flight-upgrades-exclusive-hotel-rooms_n_8295620.html Poor Joe's problem is that no one actually cares what he does. He was a temporary stand-in for Flaherty who wasn't likely to remain in Finance even if the Tories won. I'm glad he grabbed his $16 drink, it's probably the best perk he's going to get for his short and remarkably pointless career as Minister of Finance. Good on you, Joe. Quote
Canada_First Posted October 15, 2015 Report Posted October 15, 2015 I don't have a problem with the finance Minister of my country not flying coach. He can fly business class or First Class in order to get some work done on the plane. Also have no problem with him staying at a reasonable Hotel. You guys want him flying coach and staying at the Motel 6? Lol. Quote
Topaz Posted October 15, 2015 Report Posted October 15, 2015 Canadians should demand a good look at Parliament after the senate is reformed. Too much money is being spend on certain MPs and too much secrets there too. A good cleaning for the PMO and new rules put forth on Parliament Hill. Quote
cybercoma Posted October 15, 2015 Author Report Posted October 15, 2015 I'm glad he grabbed his $16 drink, it's probably the best perk he's going to get for his short and remarkably pointless career as Minister of Finance. ouch. Quote
SpankyMcFarland Posted October 15, 2015 Report Posted October 15, 2015 What was Harper thinking when he appointed this poor, doddery geezer to the second most important job in the country? Quote
blueblood Posted October 15, 2015 Report Posted October 15, 2015 What was Harper thinking when he appointed this poor, doddery geezer to the second most important job in the country? Having a prominent cabinet member in the GTA so that the gta is represented and possibly vote tories in the future. However the polls are saying otherwise. Quote "Stop the Madness!!!" - Kevin O'Leary "Money is the ultimate scorecard of life!". - Kevin O'Leary Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
gddub Posted October 16, 2015 Report Posted October 16, 2015 I agree, a drop in the bucket. Obviously its not a great thing but I just read a "News" article about a $16 drink as if it is ruining our economy... Quote
cybercoma Posted October 16, 2015 Author Report Posted October 16, 2015 A $16 drink ruined Bev Oda's career. Quote
cribone Posted October 16, 2015 Report Posted October 16, 2015 You may be right but don't put yourself up as the one with a tight grip on the public purse. Quote
SpankyMcFarland Posted October 16, 2015 Report Posted October 16, 2015 (edited) I don't think we should nickel and dime these guys. They really do have a hard life. Grant them a few comforts, I say. They've earned them. Maybe if they are a bit comfier they'll think twice about calling their buds for dodgy business opportunities. Edited October 16, 2015 by SpankyMcFarland Quote
The_Squid Posted October 16, 2015 Report Posted October 16, 2015 (edited) A $16 drink ruined Bev Oda's career. With Joe Oliver, we know that his $16 OJ will have had a double shot of Kettle One vodka in there at least... If it was ONLY the OJ, Bev would have been fine. Edited October 16, 2015 by The_Squid Quote
The_Squid Posted October 16, 2015 Report Posted October 16, 2015 I don't think we should nickel and dime these guys. They really do have a hard life. Grant them a few comforts, I say. They've earned them. Maybe if they are a bit comfier they'll think twice about calling their buds for dodgy business opportunities. I agree... especially when it comes to food. If a hotel charges exorbitant prices for OJ (sans vodka), should they have to pack their own juice boxes? Of course not... Quote
angrypenguin Posted October 20, 2015 Report Posted October 20, 2015 I don't have a problem with the finance Minister of my country not flying coach. He can fly business class or First Class in order to get some work done on the plane. Also have no problem with him staying at a reasonable Hotel. You guys want him flying coach and staying at the Motel 6? Lol. If our COO who manages a 100 or so billion dollar a year business can only fly coach, why pray tell should a government worker be able to fly business? Quote My views are my own and not those of my employer.
SpankyMcFarland Posted October 20, 2015 Report Posted October 20, 2015 If our COO who manages a 100 or so billion dollar a year business can only fly coach, why pray tell should a government worker be able to fly business? Because he is managing a much bigger business and may be looking at material that would one like to keep as confidential as possible in a little comfort. Your boss chooses to travel that way. Imagine forcing Oliver or poor old Flaherty to do that. Quote
The_Squid Posted October 20, 2015 Report Posted October 20, 2015 If our COO who manages a 100 or so billion dollar a year business can only fly coach, why pray tell should a government worker be able to fly business? They are not "government workers". This is a Cabinet Minister. Quote
angrypenguin Posted October 21, 2015 Report Posted October 21, 2015 (edited) Because he is managing a much bigger business and may be looking at material that would one like to keep as confidential as possible in a little comfort. Your boss chooses to travel that way. Imagine forcing Oliver or poor old Flaherty to do that. First part, OK I agree. Second part, I will completely disagree with you. I spend my life on airplanes, there is no privacy on a narrowbody aircraft between YYZ and YOW. It's 2x2 seating in J, versus 2x2 in Y or 3x3 in Y as there are no narrowbodies. J = business class Y = economy class. I spend about 50% of my time up front and the other half in the back. The confidential argument is 100% not true. Plus, on those flights there is 0 time to work. It's a 1 hour 5 minute flight and about 30-40 minutes in the air, during which case a cheese plate and a drink or two is served. And if we're talking YYZ YYC, same issue. It's 3 hours basically in the air, and there is no privacy unless one books a pod on the 1 flight a day that's on a 763. Based on when the 763 flies, Oliver is not on that flight. Edited October 21, 2015 by angrypenguin Quote My views are my own and not those of my employer.
SpankyMcFarland Posted October 21, 2015 Report Posted October 21, 2015 OK but what about no more comfort up front? You've seen our last two finance ministers? Do you not think they are entitled to a LITTLE consideration given what they had to put up with otherwise? There seems to be this relentless desire to cut any public servant down to size. These guys suffer enough. Quote
angrypenguin Posted October 21, 2015 Report Posted October 21, 2015 OK but what about no more comfort up front? You've seen our last two finance ministers? Do you not think they are entitled to a LITTLE consideration given what they had to put up with otherwise? There seems to be this relentless desire to cut any public servant down to size. These guys suffer enough. This argument i buy. Quote My views are my own and not those of my employer.
Canada_First Posted October 21, 2015 Report Posted October 21, 2015 If our COO who manages a 100 or so billion dollar a year business can only fly coach, why pray tell should a government worker be able to fly business? A COO makes millions of dollars a year, in some cases ens of millions per year. An MP makes about $150k and it's often a thankless job. I have no problem with them having some perks. Quote
ToadBrother Posted October 21, 2015 Report Posted October 21, 2015 A COO makes millions of dollars a year, in some cases ens of millions per year. An MP makes about $150k and it's often a thankless job. I have no problem with them having some perks. For once we are in agreement. Having spent more than my fair share of time in hotels on business trips, I can't tell you the number of times I've had to pay $5 for a package of lousy peanuts. Quote
angrypenguin Posted October 21, 2015 Report Posted October 21, 2015 For once we are in agreement. Having spent more than my fair share of time in hotels on business trips, I can't tell you the number of times I've had to pay $5 for a package of lousy peanuts. That's some employer not letting you expense that However, $5 is very different than a $5000 J ticket RT from YYZ to YYC Quote My views are my own and not those of my employer.
cybercoma Posted October 22, 2015 Author Report Posted October 22, 2015 I kind of feel bad for Joe. He seems like a stand up guy. The polar opposite of Pierre Poilievre. Yet he has his seat still and Joe doesn't. Quote
SpankyMcFarland Posted October 26, 2015 Report Posted October 26, 2015 I kind of feel bad for Joe. He seems like a stand up guy. The polar opposite of Pierre Poilievre. Yet he has his seat still and Joe doesn't. Yes, he seems decent. These politicians are made of sterner stuff. To be doing that kind of work, with all the concomitant grief, at his age passes all understanding. Quote
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