G Huxley Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 Good news. Well if the Bloc don`t throw a wrench into the election I find it difficult to see Trudeau not getting at least a minority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReeferMadness Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 I know...that's at least two too many...probably three too many. What do you mean? Just have one 4 seat riding for PEI. Actually, if it were up to me, I'd have one each for the 4 maritime provinces. I know that wouldn't fly but I think that local representation is highly overrated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 This would be just completely unworkable with New Brunswick, linguistically, culturally, politically, and historically. Maybe so, but, and this sounds strange to say, but the 4 largest provinces get the short end of the stick. Each province should have 1 seat per 110K (as is the current formula, IIRC) rounded to the nearest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 (edited) What do you mean? Just have one 4 seat riding for PEI. I'm saying that PEI is over represented in parliament. The constitution ensures it. Edited October 19, 2015 by Smallc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReeferMadness Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 I'm saying that PEI is over represented in parliament. The constitution ensures it. That's a different can of worms. Rural areas are over-represented compared to urban areas. They would argue otherwise. Nothing's perfect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted October 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 (edited) Maybe so, but, and this sounds strange to say, but the 4 largest provinces get the short end of the stick. Each province should have 1 seat per 110K (as is the current formula, IIRC) rounded to the nearest. I get why you're saying it, but it defeats the idea of making MPs more representative of their constituencies and more accountable to their constituents. At least in the case of reducing seats in NB or PEI even. Edited October 19, 2015 by cybercoma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToadBrother Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 I get why you're saying it, but it defeats the idea of making MPs more representative of their constituencies and more accountable to their constituents. At least in the case of reducing seats in NB or PEI even. Not going to happen. Senate reform is more likely than these provinces taking a seat cut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReeferMadness Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 Not going to happen. Senate reform is more likely than these provinces taking a seat cut. It's a higher priority too - IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 I get why you're saying it, but it defeats the idea of making MPs more representative of their constituencies and more accountable to their constituents. At least in the case of reducing seats in NB or PEI even. The lines can't always break down perfectly. What I want will never happen anyway (and I did advocated dropping at least one seat for Manitoba - we'll probably get another one in a couple of decades), I was just musing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 That's a different can of worms. Rural areas are over-represented compared to urban areas. They would argue otherwise. Nothing's perfect. I live in the most rural, ignorant area that you could ever imagine. Don't worry, I'm well aware. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 Twitter users now attacking Trudeau's watch, with varying estimates of between $5000 - $31000 US in value. Who cares? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancouver King Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 Vancouver King, wrt your correct observation of a Liberal majority, are you from the future by any chance? No, but to compensate they let me have an extra seat projection: Lib - 178 CPC -100 NDP - 57 Bloc - 2 Grn - 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted October 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 Not going to happen. Senate reform is more likely than these provinces taking a seat cut. The problem is that MPs can't really be representative nor accountable to their constituents. Take Fundy Royal for example. It crosses 5 StatsCan census divisions made up of 33 census subdivisions. It covers almost the entire triangle from Saint John to Moncton to Fredericton. Likewise the Miramichi–Grand Lake riding extends from Mt. Carleton to Miramichi to Fredericton. These areas have sparse populations spread out over large swaths of the province. They're huge ridings. The only way to cut down the number of seats would be to have these massive ridings absorb ridings from the cities. It wouldn't make sense at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted October 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 Twitter users now attacking Trudeau's watch, with varying estimates of between $5000 - $31000 US in value. Who cares? Probably paid for it with those speaking fees he should have never collected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 It wouldn't make sense at all. About 2/3 of Manitoba is represented by 1 riding. They'd adapt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 Not going to happen. Senate reform is more likely than these provinces taking a seat cut. I would make it part of the same deal. Each province gets 10 senate seats and accepts true rep by pop as a compromise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted October 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 About 2/3 of Manitoba is represented by 1 riding. They'd adapt. Yeah, but then imagine breaking up part of Winnipeg and dropping it in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 Probably paid for it with those speaking fees he should have never collected. I think he was probably well off most of his life, but I agree with you on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Squid Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 Twitter users now attacking Trudeau's watch, with varying estimates of between $5000 - $31000 US in value.Who cares? I care.... I love watches. What brand is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 Yeah, but then imagine breaking up part of Winnipeg and dropping it in there. That was the situation in Saskatchewan until this year, and I believe it's true of 1 Winnipeg/rural riding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 I care.... I love watches. What brand is it? IWC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted October 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 I care.... I love watches. What brand is it? mjmignacca @stephen_taylor: Trudeau trolls 4 votes @ Tim Hortons while wearing a $31,000 watch. Bridge tolls 4 BC; but, not QC. http://t.co/BjFSGbOgD2 2015-10-19, 12:34 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 Anyway, if the Liberals keep their word (I hope that they do) I hope they go with STV and don't waste our time by going half way with AV ensuring them super majorities for eternity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted October 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 I'm not holding my breath for electoral reform under the Liberals, if they win tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReeferMadness Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 Anyway, if the Liberals keep their word (I hope that they do) I hope they go with STV and don't waste our time by going half way with AV ensuring them super majorities for eternity. I think they committed to an all party process - which seems like a good thing. I can't imagine the other 2 parties agreeing to AV because it will benefit the Liberals. However, I can imagine a bunfest which will drag the whole process into the weeds. I think STV would be a good compromise but after watching what happened provincially, I'm not getting my hopes up to much. I think chances would be better if Liberals have a minority. Then maybe STV can be a compromise position between MMP and AV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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