G Huxley Posted September 21, 2015 Report Posted September 21, 2015 (edited) "Just wish she was a *conservative...." If she was a *conservative Harper would keep her muzzled and locked away without a key. She has nothing in common with the conservative party. Edited September 21, 2015 by Charles Anthony spelling *con Quote
G Huxley Posted September 21, 2015 Report Posted September 21, 2015 Yes, that's the only problem that I see with the idea. Still, to me anyway, it feels like Elizabeth may debating with potential prime ministers (something not even she claims that she can become) is a waste of her time and mine. You've spent now well more than two hours debating that she shouldn't be allowed in a 1 hour debate. So whose time are you really concerned with? Quote
Smallc Posted September 21, 2015 Report Posted September 21, 2015 You're engaging with language instead of the ideas presented to you. Nobody cares that you can be a pedant. The idea that the poster was getting across is that the government is not representative of the votes and therefore should not be called a democracy. Which is absolutely ludicrous, since representative democracy with first past the post is a recognized system used by some of the most successful democracies on the planet. Language is important. Quote
Smallc Posted September 21, 2015 Report Posted September 21, 2015 preliminary numbers suggested that only 60,000 people actually saw the second debate, It has over 400000 views on Youtube. Quote
Smallc Posted September 21, 2015 Report Posted September 21, 2015 (edited) You've spent now well more than two hours debating that she shouldn't be allowed in a 1 hour debate. So whose time are you really concerned with? I'm not going to be at the debate either. Democracy. Edit: I also made dinner and went for my nightly walk in between. Edited September 21, 2015 by Smallc Quote
TimG Posted September 21, 2015 Report Posted September 21, 2015 It has over 400000 views on Youtube.That is interesting and really a sign of the times. I personally have no interest in sitting down and watching on TV but would watch it on YouTube. Seems like a lot of people feel the same way. Quote
ironstone Posted September 21, 2015 Report Posted September 21, 2015 May, may have a point and with the polls so close, the NDP and the liberals should think twice about getting along with her because one of them, may need her in a minority situation, she may just hold the most power after the election. It's scary to think that this woman could hold so much influence after the election.The Greens are basically a one- issue party. Quote "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." Thomas Sowell
G Huxley Posted September 21, 2015 Report Posted September 21, 2015 The greens are a multi-issue party. Are you really scared of people representing the environment having such sway? Quote
G Huxley Posted September 21, 2015 Report Posted September 21, 2015 Which is absolutely ludicrous, since representative democracy with first past the post is a recognized system used by some of the most successful democracies on the planet. Name some. Quote
WestCoastRunner Posted September 21, 2015 Report Posted September 21, 2015 It's scary to think that this woman could hold so much influence after the election.The Greens are basically a one- issue party. For christ's sake. It's about hearing from all political parties on a debate. It's not scary at all. Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
WestCoastRunner Posted September 21, 2015 Report Posted September 21, 2015 It has over 400000 views on Youtube. This is a very good point. Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
WestCoastRunner Posted September 21, 2015 Report Posted September 21, 2015 Because her chance of becoming prime minister or even official opposition on election day is virtually 0%. So what, I keep saying, it doesn't matter. I want to hear about her on a debate with the big boys. Who knows what her arguments will do to sway today's voters with tomorrow's elections. I want to hear what she has to say in every single debate. Why should I be denied that? Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
TimG Posted September 21, 2015 Report Posted September 21, 2015 (edited) I want to hear what she has to say in every single debate. Why should I be denied that?Exclusion criteria have to be set. The criteria are arbitrary but from the POV of the debate host they will choose the criteria that they believe will result in the best event which they are entitled to do. If you don't agree then don't watch the debate. There are plenty of others. Edited September 21, 2015 by TimG Quote
G Huxley Posted September 21, 2015 Report Posted September 21, 2015 How can a 'best event' be anti-democratic? Quote
WestCoastRunner Posted September 21, 2015 Report Posted September 21, 2015 Exclusion criteria have to be set. The criteria are arbitrary but from the POV of the debate host they will choose the criteria that they believe will result in the best event which they are entitled to do. If you don't agree then don't watch the debate. There are plenty of others. This is a debate about candidates running for election. If they can't provide a balanced criteria then there is a problem. Surely a best event would include the 4th party, give me a break. Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
On Guard for Thee Posted September 21, 2015 Report Posted September 21, 2015 Exclusion criteria have to be set. The criteria are arbitrary but from the POV of the debate host they will choose the criteria that they believe will result in the best event which they are entitled to do. If you don't agree then don't watch the debate. There are plenty of others. Plenty? Well certainly not if you're talking Harper and consortium debates. What'she afraid of, he may get asked a question? Quote
TimG Posted September 21, 2015 Report Posted September 21, 2015 This is a debate about candidates running for election. If they can't provide a balanced criteria then there is a problem.They decided they wanted the leaders that had a non-zero chance at becoming PM. You may not like it but it is a reasonable criteria and I am very much against any government or court ordered control over the debate formats. Quote
Canada_First Posted September 21, 2015 Report Posted September 21, 2015 (edited) "Just wish she was a *conservative...." If she was a *conservative Harper would keep her muzzled and locked away without a key. She has nothing in common with the conservative party. Greens have things in common with conservatives. Please don't say they don't. It simply isn't true. Thank you. Edited September 21, 2015 by Charles Anthony spelling *con Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted September 21, 2015 Report Posted September 21, 2015 Greens have things in common with conservatives. Please don't say they don't. It simply isn't true. Thank you. They each breathe air, what else? Quote
Canada_First Posted September 21, 2015 Report Posted September 21, 2015 So what, I keep saying, it doesn't matter. I want to hear about her on a debate with the big boys. Who knows what her arguments will do to sway today's voters with tomorrow's elections. I want to hear what she has to say in every single debate. Why should I be denied that?She was in the first one. You already heard her. You got your way. She took on the big boys already. Now this woman can be quiet and let the three men take care of the real business. Quote
Smallc Posted September 21, 2015 Report Posted September 21, 2015 (edited) They each breathe air, what else? They're both very against Quebec getting distinct status under the constitution. Edited September 21, 2015 by Smallc Quote
Canada_First Posted September 21, 2015 Report Posted September 21, 2015 This is a debate about candidates running for election. If they can't provide a balanced criteria then there is a problem. Surely a best event would include the 4th party, give me a break.A party with 6 percent support doesn't really matter. They don't have any reason to be in debate. They won't form government or even shape it. Quote
G Huxley Posted September 21, 2015 Report Posted September 21, 2015 (edited) "She was in the first one. You already heard her. You got your way. She took on the big boys already. Now this woman can be quiet and let the three men take care of the real business." - Canada_First Yeah that woman had her 15 minutes, now she just needs to shut up and know her place while the men take care of business. (sarcasm) Edited September 21, 2015 by G Huxley Quote
G Huxley Posted September 21, 2015 Report Posted September 21, 2015 A party with 6 percent support doesn't really matter. They don't have any reason to be in debate. They won't form government or even shape it. With a horse race like this actually they are likely to have some real influence and May's influence has already made an impact at least in the sense of compelling the left to actually address the environment and she exposes the crimes of the far right in Canada. Quote
Canada_First Posted September 21, 2015 Report Posted September 21, 2015 With a horse race like this actually they are likely to have some real influence and May's influence has already made an impact at least in the sense of compelling the left to actually address the environment and she exposes the crimes of the far right in Canada.Mays 1 seat will be meaningless. To hold any power Greens must hold at least 20 seats. Quote
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