Relevant Ipsos poll regarding refugees...

[Springer]

From Ipsos...

http://ipsos-na.com/news-polls/pressrelease.aspx?id=6989

Quote:

"Four in ten (38%) Canadians believe that Stephen Harper and the Conservatives would ‘make the best decision for Canada on the Syrian refugee situation’, placing the Tories significantly ahead of the one in three who believe that Thomas Mulcair and the NDP (32%) or Justin Trudeau and the Liberals (30%) would be best to manage this file. Interestingly, even two in ten Liberal (18%) and NDP (15%) voters believe that the Conservatives would make the best decision for Canada.

The decision about how many refugees Canada should take in and through what process has largely been centered on the idea of security and whether the process of accepting refugees should be fast-tracked despite security concerns. On this debate, seven in ten (71%) voters more closely believe that ‘we can’t compromise Canada’s security, and individual Syrian refugees should go through proper screening to make sure they aren’t terrorists even if this slows down their admission to Canada’, including a majority of Tory (87%), Liberal (66%) and NDP voters (61%)."

Clearly, the majority of Canadians are on side with the CPC on this issue, including Liberal and NDP supporters.

As I've said repeatedly, security is a front and center issue with Canadians, and one not to be taken lightly.

Meanwhile, the situation in Europe continues to deteriorate. And the worse it gets over there, the more prominent the issue becomes in voters' minds over here.

Edited September 15, 2015 by Springer

[BubberMiley]

^{Four in 10 is "significantly more" than one in three? Maybe they should have tried using a common denominator before coming to that conclusion. Math is hard.}

Edited September 15, 2015 by BubberMiley

[cybercoma]

This belongs in the federal elections polls thread, where you will also find an Innovative Research report that shows that 61% of Canadians "would never vote for" the Conservative Party.

[The_Squid]

Clearly, the majority of Canadians are on side with the CPC on this issue, including Liberal and NDP supporters.

38% is a majority of Canadians?

When did they change how math works???

Edited September 15, 2015 by The_Squid

[Evening Star]

38% is a majority of Canadians?

When did they change how math works???

Including a whole 18% of Liberal supporters and 15% of NDP supporters!

[Moonlight Graham]

38% is a majority of Canadians?

When did they change how math works???

Well, if you look at the link, a majority (57%) support increasing military support in region vs ISIS, 51% oppose taking in 10k refugees in 2015 (49% support), 61% oppose immediately accepting up to 25k refugees in 2015, 53% oppose fast-tracking syrian refugees, 53% oppose taking in 46k refugees by 2019.

From this poll, there's clearly a slight majority support for CPC policies on Syria refugees and military involvement in Syria. Could be in the margin of error though.

Edited September 16, 2015 by Moonlight Graham

[Moonlight Graham]

What these polls say to me is that the voting population is a bit more conservative than mainstream media coverage would lead us to believe. I'd guess it's because major MSM news outlets are run by younger-to-middle aged adults (as opposed to retired/seniors who are the biggest voting age demographic) and they live and work in major metropolitan cities, which are generally much more liberal than conservative leaning, especially Toronto (newsmedia center of Canada), possibly the most left-leaning city in Canada.

[Derek 2.0]

What these polls say to me is that the voting population is a bit more conservative than mainstream media coverage would lead us to believe.

I disagree. I would say these polls indicate many Canadians, regardless of politics, understand that by helping to mitigate the causes of the exodus from the region, coupled with providing a measure of security in the region (including safe havens for refugees within their countries, like the Kingdom of Jordan is doing on the Syrian side of its border), will ipso facto reduce the number of refugees.

Furthermore, I think it also indicates that many Canadians also understand that rushing the process for accepting refugees could pose a potential security threat (ISIL has stated that it has plants among refugees already in Europe). To a lesser extent, many Canadians might also feel adding a large number of refugees to Canadian cities, that have little prospect of being self-sufficient will prove a drain on limited resources.

[ToadBrother]

I disagree. I would say these polls indicate many Canadians, regardless of politics, understand that by helping to mitigate the causes of the exodus from the region, coupled with providing a measure of security in the region (including safe havens for refugees within their countries, like the Kingdom of Jordan is doing on the Syrian side of its border), will ipso facto reduce the number of refugees.

Furthermore, I think it also indicates that many Canadians also understand that rushing the process for accepting refugees could pose a potential security threat (ISIL has stated that it has plants among refugees already in Europe). To a lesser extent, many Canadians might also feel adding a large number of refugees to Canadian cities, that have little prospect of being self-sufficient will prove a drain on limited resources.

What do you think of Rick Hillier's recent interview on the matter?

[Derek 2.0]

What do you think of Rick Hillier's recent interview on the matter?

I think it’s too simplistic and the General is out of his lane. Stating we’ll just select “old women and orphaned children” to speed up the process doesn’t address the reality that such groups are a further drain on society and that much further from being self-sufficient (if ever). Likewise his suggestion that we just “fast-tract” those refugees that already have family in Canada, as alluded to by Minister Kenney, some such families very much so have relatives in the old country that we are currently fighting.

With that said, I’m in agreement with the General that we should continue our military mission in the region, if not expand it in size and scope.

[69cat]

What the poll likely suggests is how tiresome the Canadian voter is of the left wing mainsream media trying to control the election outcome. The story of the Kurdi family truely driving home the extent to which the media will sink.

http://canadafreepress.com/article/75028

In the link will see the interview with the aunt that is dated many days before the media ran with the final straw of the Kurdi father saying "i do not know why the Canadian government rejected my application". Well, his sister clearly states days before that no application was made. She also says there was no intention of the family to come to Canada and in fact Kurdis main concern was how to get the money for his dental bill. However, in spite of a live interview that says otherwise and circulated widely enough that a simple farmer on the prairies had seen, the media ran with the story of the disgraceful Harper gov.

I would say the poll accurately describes voter setiment.

It is a sad situation with the refugee crisis but for the media to out right lie, omit the truth and create false storylines is the bigger issue as it polarizes Canadians and creates resentment towards any discussion on the topic being used by the media to further its goals.

[eyeball]

38% is a majority of Canadians?

When did they change how math works???

On election night.

[cybercoma]

On election night.