H10 Posted September 7, 2015 Report Posted September 7, 2015 Ben Carson is the best candidate the Rs have by far, a person with a lot of dedication, discipline, skill and brilliance, but he's nutty too. "Carson stated: "I don't believe in evolution...I simply don't have enough faith to believe that something as complex as our ability to rationalize, think, and plan, and have a moral sense of what's right and wrong, just appeared."[65] In 2012, nearly 500 professors, students, and alumni of Emory University wrote a letter expressing concern about his views in advance of his commencement speech. They cited a quote in an interview with the Adventist Review: "By believing we are the product of random acts, we eliminate morality and the basis of ethical behavior." Only far left liberals take evolution as a given or think it is "fact" when it is at best a theory far from ever being proven. Evolution in its broader form is incompatible not only with morality but with science. It claims matter literally appeared out of nothing. A blatant lie. Quote
G Huxley Posted September 7, 2015 Report Posted September 7, 2015 "Is this expression clear enough for you as a possibility?" You lost me at the Darwin space alien connection."Only far left liberals take evolution as a given or think it is "fact" when it is at best a theory far from ever being proven." No it's proven. You just haven't taken a good observative look around you. Ever eaten genetically modified foods? If yes you just proved evolutionary theory. "It claims matter literally appeared out of nothing."No it doesn't. Evolutionary theory makes no such claim. I should get paid to explain this stuff seriously. Quote
Exegesisme Posted September 7, 2015 Author Report Posted September 7, 2015 (edited) "Is this expression clear enough for you as a possibility?" You lost me at the Darwin space alien connection. "Only far left liberals take evolution as a given or think it is "fact" when it is at best a theory far from ever being proven." No it's proven. You just haven't taken a good observative look around you. Ever eaten genetically modified foods? If yes you just proved evolutionary theory. "It claims matter literally appeared out of nothing." No it doesn't. Evolutionary theory makes no such claim. I should get paid to explain this stuff seriously. "Darwin made a theory of evolution on some facts, and these facts were recorded the creative process of the aliens in another universe. " Do you think this is not a connection? The same facts, were possibly created by the aliens, became the evidences of the theory of evolution. The theory of reunion of creation and evolution depends on the same facts. And remember, I do not lost you anything, but loan you everything. If your understanding still can not work, it is your issue. Edited September 7, 2015 by Exegesisme Quote
GostHacked Posted September 7, 2015 Report Posted September 7, 2015 So, now, the theory of Darwin might be possible about only a very small part of the whole possibility, and the whole possibility is really about the creation of everything of our universe. Do you agree with this possibility or not? What created the creator? The claim is we exist because of the creator. But there can be a cyclical argument that can go on and on about who created the creators and then who created those creators. The bible was not prepared to deal with those philosophical conundrums. Quote
Exegesisme Posted September 7, 2015 Author Report Posted September 7, 2015 (edited) What created the creator? The claim is we exist because of the creator. But there can be a cyclical argument that can go on and on about who created the creators and then who created those creators. The bible was not prepared to deal with those philosophical conundrums. Human philosophy has not the ability to go so deep, therefore, the reasonable way is returned back and look for what human philosophy can do. A new thread here for discussing this topic. http://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums/topic/24912-4-tragic-false-rule-political-philosophy-for-human-future/ Edited September 7, 2015 by Exegesisme Quote
GostHacked Posted September 7, 2015 Report Posted September 7, 2015 Ok. Now, let's imagine these beings may be very intelligent, and even have been existing since the time before the beginning of our universe. Do you agree this possibility? Stop right there. When you bring your imagination into a scientific debate don't get frustrated or upset when you cannot apply any kind of science to the 'imaginary claim' you are making. And don't get upset when others brush you off. Science can extrapolate and make educated guesses based on past evidence. One can start with the speculation and work the science back. In many cases they find the path to be a dead end and have to rethink and redo the science. Speculation is good, confirmation is better. Quote
Exegesisme Posted September 7, 2015 Author Report Posted September 7, 2015 Stop right there. When you bring your imagination into a scientific debate don't get frustrated or upset when you cannot apply any kind of science to the 'imaginary claim' you are making. And don't get upset when others brush you off. Science can extrapolate and make educated guesses based on past evidence. One can start with the speculation and work the science back. In many cases they find the path to be a dead end and have to rethink and redo the science. Speculation is good, confirmation is better. You are not him. Why don't you see his reaction? Quote
GostHacked Posted September 7, 2015 Report Posted September 7, 2015 You are not him. Why don't you see his reaction? Who created the creator? Or are you in the belief there is a top level creator and nothing before him (or her)? Quote
Exegesisme Posted September 7, 2015 Author Report Posted September 7, 2015 Who created the creator? Or are you in the belief there is a top level creator and nothing before him (or her)? You have not that ability to ask this question. I had asked this question for many years and with huge overcome, but the answer is only for me. Quote
GostHacked Posted September 7, 2015 Report Posted September 7, 2015 You have not that ability to ask this question. I had asked this question for many years and with huge overcome, but the answer is only for me. I have the ability to ask any question I can come up with. Why would you deny me that? Quote
Exegesisme Posted September 7, 2015 Author Report Posted September 7, 2015 I have the ability to ask any question I can come up with. Why would you deny me that? When you have that ability, you know where to ask that question. Now you do not know where to ask that question. Quote
GostHacked Posted September 7, 2015 Report Posted September 7, 2015 When you have that ability, you know where to ask that question. Now you do not know where to ask that question. It's not a matter of where to ask the question, but who to pose the question to. I guess I'll need to keep looking for that person. Quote
Exegesisme Posted September 7, 2015 Author Report Posted September 7, 2015 It's not a matter of where to ask the question, but who to pose the question to. I guess I'll need to keep looking for that person. Even you know who he is, you still need to know where he is. And more. Quote
GostHacked Posted September 7, 2015 Report Posted September 7, 2015 Even you know who he is, you still need to know where he is. And more. Should have posted this in the philosophical section. Not sure what kind of politics you are referring to anymore. Quote
Exegesisme Posted September 7, 2015 Author Report Posted September 7, 2015 Should have posted this in the philosophical section. Not sure what kind of politics you are referring to anymore. Your way is under your feet, but your eye should be careful. Quote
G Huxley Posted September 7, 2015 Report Posted September 7, 2015 "Darwin made a theory of evolution on some facts, and these facts were recorded the creative process of the aliens in another universe. " Do you think this is not a connection?" No it doesn't make any sense at all man. Quote
Exegesisme Posted September 7, 2015 Author Report Posted September 7, 2015 (edited) "Darwin made a theory of evolution on some facts, and these facts were recorded the creative process of the aliens in another universe. " Do you think this is not a connection?" No it doesn't make any sense at all man. So, I admit I blindly talk too much for a blindness. What do you want to mean with these words "at all man"? Edited September 7, 2015 by Exegesisme Quote
G Huxley Posted September 7, 2015 Report Posted September 7, 2015 As in it's completely not understandable. The sentences don't even make structural sense. "So, I admit I blindly talk too much for a blindness." Man look in the mirror you are coming across as delusional. If you can't communicate your thoughts effectively and have them make logical sense, then it's not that other people are blind, but rather that you need to really take another look at your beliefs or develop better ways to clearly elucidate them. Quote
Exegesisme Posted September 8, 2015 Author Report Posted September 8, 2015 (edited) Why Carson should win and might win. http://www.vox.com/2015/9/6/9262795/ben-carson-polls http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/sep/3/carson-best-of-gop-hopefuls-against-clinton-poll/ Edited September 8, 2015 by Exegesisme Quote
Argus Posted September 9, 2015 Report Posted September 9, 2015 Only far left liberals take evolution as a given or think it is "fact" when it is at best a theory far from ever being proven. Evolution in its broader form is incompatible not only with morality but with science. It claims matter literally appeared out of nothing. A blatant lie. As opposed to God creating it in six days? Who created God? Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
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