kimmy Posted July 5, 2015 Report Posted July 5, 2015 Agreed on "Fully Completely". My favorite Hip songs are more conventional sounding rock tracks like "Locked in the trunk of a car", "At the hundredth meridian", "Looking for a place to happen." -k Quote (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ﾉ(° -°ﾉ)
WIP Posted July 5, 2015 Report Posted July 5, 2015 Yeah, but was it any good? I already gave my opinion: not really! It should have been left in the can, since they already had a pretty good album released a few years earlier. Rush was never big on releasing singles before Moving Pictures....that's when my wife agreed to listen along when I'd put it on. Since we're 6 years apart in age, at that time when music was changing fast and video was coming in, it was like being a generation apart, even besides the gender differences in tastes. I can't recall any singles from it or anything... the last Rush single I can recall is "Nobody's Hero" (which IMO was awful and not exactly top 10 of the last 25 years type material...) Maybe someone here knows if "Far Cry" was released as a single. It was used as the theme song for a video game, so it got some airplay by being featured in the commercials. Quote Anybody who believers exponential growth can go on forever in a finite world is either a madman or an economist. -- Kenneth Boulding, 1973
WIP Posted July 5, 2015 Report Posted July 5, 2015 (edited) That is a problem with corporate radio. You are only going to hear the more popular ones. A total shame in that we always hear the same things over and over again on the radio. The first problem any unemployed or former on air personality will tell you is that most of the local radio stations are computerized...there's nobody at the station spinning records or even setting up playlists like in the old days. Now a radio conglomerate like Clear Channel in the US sets their stations with 'robot' DJ's that have a list of canned responses and announcements to make the listener think there is actually someone behind the controls at their local radio station. Same trend goes here in Canada - a few major corporations own all of the stations and program from a national commercial perspective. Getting back to Rush, in their bio documentary from a few years back, it's mentioned how one female deejay working at a rock station in Cleveland notices "Working Man" in the pile of vinyl on the counter and puts it on and takes a liking to it...plays it a few more times....listeners call in and request it again and want to know where they can buy a copy (they didn't have a US record label at the time)...and eventually through sheer fate, Rush develops a loyal fan following that will keep them going for years...literally! So, in the new era of corporate-controlled, programmed music, this nice little success story of struggling musicians doesn't happen today...or certainly doesn't happen that way. I've noticed since listening more to public radio...particularly on podcast of shows like NPR's All Songs Considered, that there is always lots of interesting new music out there....that almost never will see the light of day now, but young aspiring musicians keep doing what they like to do and try to find a way to make their little hobby pay for itself. Fewer and fewer are finding ways to actually earn a living from the music they write, play and produce unfortunately. Edited July 5, 2015 by WIP Quote Anybody who believers exponential growth can go on forever in a finite world is either a madman or an economist. -- Kenneth Boulding, 1973
The_Squid Posted July 6, 2015 Report Posted July 6, 2015 (edited) Barenaked Ladies - Gordon - 23 years ago Should be right up there. Edited July 6, 2015 by The_Squid Quote
The_Squid Posted July 6, 2015 Report Posted July 6, 2015 I didn't ever understand the attraction to Rush...but hey people like them. Still, have they produced a top 10 album sometime in the last 25 years? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rush_discography Clockwork Angels - #1 Snakes and Arrows - #3 Feedback - #5 Vapor Trails - #3 etc... etc... etc... Quote
Mighty AC Posted July 7, 2015 Author Report Posted July 7, 2015 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rush_discography Clockwork Angels - #1 Snakes and Arrows - #3 Feedback - #5 Vapor Trails - #3 etc... etc... etc... I was referring to the subject of this thread, so top 10 Canadian albums of the last 25 years. Would you put any Rush albums in that category? Quote "Our lives begin to end the day we stay silent about the things that matter." - Martin Luther King Jr"Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities" - Voltaire
The_Squid Posted July 7, 2015 Report Posted July 7, 2015 I was referring to the subject of this thread, so top 10 Canadian albums of the last 25 years. Would you put any Rush albums in that category? I already gave my suggestion... but I am a fan. I admit i'm biased. You asked if they had a top 10 album in the last 25 years... I rattled off several. Quote
Mighty AC Posted July 7, 2015 Author Report Posted July 7, 2015 (edited) I already gave my suggestion... but I am a fan. I admit i'm biased. You asked if they had a top 10 album in the last 25 years... I rattled off several. The title of the thread refers to the Top 10 Canadian albums of the last 25 years...not the highest point reached on weekly sales charts. Still I get that people like Rush...I just don't really understand the attraction. Maybe I just can't get past the vocals. Edited July 7, 2015 by Mighty AC Quote "Our lives begin to end the day we stay silent about the things that matter." - Martin Luther King Jr"Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities" - Voltaire
Argus Posted July 11, 2015 Report Posted July 11, 2015 Maybe I'm just a traditionalist, but I think Loreena McKennitt belongs on their somewhere, perhaps with The Visit (gold), or The Book of Secrets (double platinum). Although she doesn't play in the mainstream she's been seen, listened to, and sold more records here and around the world than most Canadian performers. And I think you gotta give some credit to a girl who dragged a full sized harp into the Toronto subway to busk, and then turned down a record company contract because they wouldn't give her full control of her music. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zI8sI4Ddqo Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
The_Squid Posted July 11, 2015 Report Posted July 11, 2015 Interesting to look outside of rock albums... Maybe there should be a best "non-rock/pop" album thread... Diana Krall would be in the mix... KD Lang? Prairie Oyster (ok, maybe a long shot...)? Quote
WestCoastRunner Posted July 11, 2015 Report Posted July 11, 2015 (edited) This is a great video of Loreena McKennitt performing 'The Mummers Dance' live. She used to have her recording studio in Stratford, Ontario. Imagine that! Not sure if it's still there. This is a beautiful song she wrote on her travels to Siberia, she performed it live here 'Dante's Prayer': Edited July 11, 2015 by WestCoastRunner Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
kimmy Posted July 12, 2015 Report Posted July 12, 2015 Maybe I'm just a traditionalist, but I think Loreena McKennitt belongs on their somewhere, perhaps with The Visit (gold), or The Book of Secrets (double platinum). Book of Secrets is a great suggestion! I don't know why it didn't occur to me, as I was playing it just a few weeks ago. The "Prologue" from Book of Secrets gives me goosebumps. Her voice gives me chills. Mummer's Dance and Dante's Prayer are also great songs from Book of Secrets, as suggested above. Another of my favorite songs from the record is Night Ride. -k Quote (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ﾉ(° -°ﾉ)
Argus Posted July 12, 2015 Report Posted July 12, 2015 (edited) Book of Secrets is a great suggestion! I don't know why it didn't occur to me, as I was playing it just a few weeks ago. She doesn't get much radio airplay. But I think she's the consummate musician. She writes her own music. She plays numerous instruments, and sings like a bird. On top of that she's built her own recording study and is now her own record company. They don't come any more complete. I saw her live at the NAC last year and it was a fantastic show. Aside: How is it you guys put in a youtube link and it shows a picture, but when I put in a youtube link it's just a link? Edited July 12, 2015 by Argus Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
WIP Posted July 12, 2015 Report Posted July 12, 2015 This is a great video of Loreena McKennitt performing 'The Mummers Dance' live. She used to have her recording studio in Stratford, Ontario. Imagine that! Not sure if it's still there. I wasn't even aware back in the 80's, that Loreena McKennitt was recording (without a major contract) and performing locally from her home base in Stratford...not many miles away. My wife picked up the CD for the album "The Visit" by mistake...thinking it was a Stevie Nicks album that had a similar cover photo. She liked it, and I liked it when I heard it...it certainly was something different. At that time, most of her music was based on traditional Celtic music...even including a song on The Visit (Greensleeves) said to be written by King Henry VIII. All Soul's Night was the closest thing to a single from the album, but my favourite was a musical adaptation of "The Lady of Shalott" based on the poem by Alfred Lord Tennyson. The original version is a full 11 minutes long, but after creating an abridged five minute version for an appearance on the Juno Awards, the 5 min. version has been the standard for live performances since then. My favourite rendition is from the live album "Nights At The Alhambra". And for some reason, the only Youtube clip I can find is one with Spanish subtitles: Quote Anybody who believers exponential growth can go on forever in a finite world is either a madman or an economist. -- Kenneth Boulding, 1973
Argus Posted July 13, 2015 Report Posted July 13, 2015 IThe original version is a full 11 minutes long, but after creating an abridged five minute version for an appearance on the Juno Awards, the 5 min. version has been the standard for live performances since then. My favourite rendition is from the live album "Nights At The Alhambra". And for some reason, the only Youtube clip I can find is one with Spanish subtitles: I have the video from 'Al Hambra', but I prefer the full length version. I first heard it very late one night on CHEZ FM and I'd never heard anything like that before, so started trying to find out who that was. Ironically, you would NEVER hear this on CHEZ FM these days. Back when FM was new they liked to play long and unusual songs that AM radio wouldn't do. But now they're one of those "Classic Rock" stations programed by a computer in Toronto with about 150 songs they play over and over again year after year after year. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
WIP Posted July 13, 2015 Report Posted July 13, 2015 I think I like the full length version better also. And judging from an interview I heard Loreena do on CBC Radio several years ago, I get the feeling that she would prefer to do the full 11 min version also. But, after the Juno Awards people asked her for an abridged version, every other TV appearance she did after that also wanted the shorter version. At least they didn't demand 3 minutes! That used to be the cutoff for 45 singles back in the old days of radio. No station would play a song that was more than three minutes long on a.m. radio. But when f.m. came along, longer cuts were played frequently. A friend of mine who used to dj in Toronto back in the 70's, told me the reason why "Stairway to Heaven" got such frequent airplay at night, was there was no one else in the place, and it was the "bathroom break" song to put on before headng down to the washroom. Quote Anybody who believers exponential growth can go on forever in a finite world is either a madman or an economist. -- Kenneth Boulding, 1973
Moonlight Graham Posted July 14, 2015 Report Posted July 14, 2015 (edited) Yeah, but was it any good? I can't recall any singles from it or anything... the last Rush single I can recall is "Nobody's Hero" (which IMO was awful and not exactly top 10 of the last 25 years type material...) Last Rush single I remember is "Driven" from 1996, actually quite catchy for a Rush tune, plus a badass heavy main riff, I always liked the song (coming from someone who was never much of a Rush fan). Never listened to full the album, but doubtful it's considered top 10 material as I never recalled massive buzz from it. Edited July 14, 2015 by Moonlight Graham Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
GostHacked Posted July 14, 2015 Report Posted July 14, 2015 I was referring to the subject of this thread, so top 10 Canadian albums of the last 25 years. Would you put any Rush albums in that category? Yes. Quote
GostHacked Posted July 14, 2015 Report Posted July 14, 2015 The title of the thread refers to the Top 10 Canadian albums of the last 25 years...not the highest point reached on weekly sales charts. Still I get that people like Rush...I just don't really understand the attraction. Maybe I just can't get past the vocals. That seems to be why many people cannot stand them. Or cannot appreciate them. His voice. Personally I think it's great. But the other deal is two other members who are very very talented and can still rock out while most of the other bands that started when they did, have fizzled out. It's hard to explain the appreciation one has for Rush. One needs to listen more instead of just hearing the music. I have a hard time just trying to keep up to Neil's drumming at times. I mean the man must have 6 arms and 3 brains to accomplish all that complexity, different time signatures while simply just rockin out. It's not something you can dance to, so that is already lost on many people. Quote
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