Je suis Omar Posted May 23, 2015 Report Posted May 23, 2015 The USA has long been supporting the most vile of leaders, of any "political" stripe, most often installed by the USA themselves, in order to facilitate and position American businesses to rape and pillage poor third world nations. This thread is meant to shine light on one of the usa's most vicious actions, in a long string of incredibly vicious policies and actions. One of the major results of the illegal invasion and occupation of Vietnam after WWII, was the rise of PolPot and the Khmer Rouge. The USA facilitated the rise of these fanatical killers and then they later provided direct material support to sustain them in power. On the Side of Pol Pot: U.S. Supports Khmer Rouge by Jack Colhoun Covert Action Quarterly magazine, Summer 1990 For the last eleven years the United States government, in a covert operation born of cynicism and hypocrisy, has collaborated with the genocidal Khmer Rouge in Cambodia. More specifically, Washington has covertly aided and abetted the Pol Potists' guerrilla war to overthrow the Vietnamese backed government of Prime Minister Hun Sen, which replaced the Khmer Rouge regime. The U.S. government's secret partnership with the Khmer Rouge grew out of the U.S. defeat in the Vietnam War. After the fall of Saigon in 1975, the U.S.-worried by the shift in the Southeast Asian balance of power-turned once again to geopolitical confrontation. It quickly formalized an anti-Vietnamese, anti-Soviet strategic alliance with China-an alliance whose disastrous effects have been most evident in Cambodia. For the U.S., playing the "China card" has meant sustaining the Khmer Rouge as a geopolitical counterweight capable of destabilizing the Hun Sen government in Cambodia and its Vietnamese allies. When Vietnam intervened in Cambodia and drove the Pol Potists from power in January 1972, Washington took immediate steps to preserve the Khmer Rouge as a guerrilla movement. International relief agencies were pressured by the U.S. to provide humanitarian assistance to the Khmer Rouge guerrillas who fled into Thailand. For more than a decade, the Khmer Rouge have used the refugee camps they occupy as military bases to wage a contra-war in Cambodia. According to Linda Mason and Roger Brown, who studied the relief operations in Thailand for Cambodian refugees: ...relief organizations supplied the Khmer Rouge resistance movement with food and medicines.... In the Fall of 1979 the Khmer Rouge were the most desperate of all the refugees who came to the Thai-Kampuchean border. Throughout l900, however, their health rapidly improved, and relief organizations began questioning the legitimacy of feeding them. The Khmer Rouge. . . having regained strength...had begun actively fighting the Vietnamese. The relief organizations considered supporting the Khmer Rouge inconsistent with their humanitarian goals.... Yet Thailand, the country that hosted the relief operation, and the U.S. government, which funded the bulk of the relief operations, insisted that the Khmer Rouge be fed. During his reign as National Security Adviser, Zbigniew Brzezinski played an important role in determining how the U.S. would support the Pol Pot guerrillas. Elizabeth Becker, an expert on Cambodia, recently wrote, "Brzezinski himself claims that he concocted the idea of persuading Thailand to cooperate fully with China in efforts to rebuild the Khmer Rouge.... Brzezinski said, " I encouraged the Chinese to support Pol Pot. I encouraged the Thai to help the DK [Democratic Kampuchea]. The question was how to help the Cambodian people. Pol Pot was an abomination. We could not support him but China could." An Unholy Alliance The U.S. not only permitted the Khmer Rouge to use the refugee camps in Thailand as a base for its war against the new government in Phnom Penh but it also helped Prince Norodom Sihanouk and former Prime Minister Son Sann to organize their own guerrilla armies from the refugee population in the camps. These camps are an integral factor in the ability of the Khmer Rouge, the Sihanoukist National Army (ANS) and Son Sann's Khmer People's National Liberation Front (KPNLF) to wage war against the Hun Sen government. In 1979, Washington began "a small program" of support for Sihanouk's and Son Sann's guerrillas by providing "travel expenses" for the "insurgent leaders" and funds "for the up keep of resistance camps near the Thai-Cambodian border." In addition, since 1982, the U.S. has provided the ANS and KPNLF with covert and overt "humanitarian" and "non lethal" military aid. By 1989, the secret non lethal aid had grown to between $20 million and $24 million annually and the overt humanitarian aid had reached $5 million. The Bush administration requested $7 million more in humanitarian aid for 1990. When Congress approved the $5 million aid package for the ANS and KPNLF in 1985, it prohibited use of the aid "...for the purpose or with the effect of promoting, sustaining or augmenting, directly or indirectly, the capacity of the Khmer Rouge...to conduct military or paramilitary operations in Cambodia or elsewhere...." From the beginning, U.S. aid for the ANS and KPNLF has been a complimentary source of aid for the Khmer Rouge. According to a western diplomat stationed in Southeast Asia, ".. .two-thirds of the arms aid to the noncommunist forces appears to come from Peking [beijing], along with more extensive aid to the communist fighters [the Khmer Rouge].... China is estimated to spend $60 million to $100 million yearly in aid to all factions of the anti-Vietnamese resistance." http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/US_ThirdWorld/US_PolPot.html Quote
Shady Posted May 23, 2015 Report Posted May 23, 2015 Anybody can write anything they want and post it on the Internet. Even this Jack Colhoun. Quote
Je suis Omar Posted May 23, 2015 Author Report Posted May 23, 2015 Anybody can write anything they want and post it on the Internet. Even this Jack Colhoun. You know what an apparatchik is, don't you? You know who Zbigniew Brzezinski is, don't you? During his reign as National Security Adviser, Zbigniew Brzezinski played an important role in determining how the U.S. would support the Pol Pot guerrillas. Elizabeth Becker, an expert on Cambodia, recently wrote, "Brzezinski himself claims that he concocted the idea of persuading Thailand to cooperate fully with China in efforts to rebuild the Khmer Rouge.... Brzezinski said, " I encouraged the Chinese to support Pol Pot. I encouraged the Thai to help the DK [Democratic Kampuchea]. The question was how to help the Cambodian people. Pol Pot was an abomination. We could not support him but China could." Ibid Quote
Je suis Omar Posted May 23, 2015 Author Report Posted May 23, 2015 (edited) Zbigniew Brzezinski wanted to help PolPot so that he could help the Cambodian people. Let me repeat that. Zbigniew Brzezinski wanted to help PolPot so that he could help the Cambodian people. Ain't that America, home of the free, ain't that America, sumn' to see! Edited May 23, 2015 by Je suis Omar Quote
Freddy Posted May 23, 2015 Report Posted May 23, 2015 (edited) Here is why I absolutely don't give one rats a$$ how evil anyone thinks the United States is. I as a citizen of Canada & of the continent of North America, benefit from any & all raping or pillaging that is done by the United States. You can sit on your high horse all day and all night, if you like, But you don't rule the world without cracking a few eggs. If you want to whine all day at how bad we are, like a big wimp go ahead. But, I realize and acknowledge that our high quality of life is directly linked to our dominance. I have no intention of lowering my standards, so I support the USA. I'd like to thank the United States for not being a big wet noodle. Edited May 23, 2015 by Freddy Quote
Shady Posted May 23, 2015 Report Posted May 23, 2015 Zbigniew Brzezinski wanted to help PolPot so that he could help the Cambodian people. Let me repeat that. Zbigniew Brzezinski wanted to help PolPot so that he could help the Cambodian people. Ain't that America, home of the free, ain't that America, sumn' to see! Are you saying China supported polpot? Quote
Je suis Omar Posted May 23, 2015 Author Report Posted May 23, 2015 (edited) Are you saying China supported polpot? At the behest of the USA. Ain't that America, home of the war criminals. Edited May 23, 2015 by Je suis Omar Quote
Je suis Omar Posted May 23, 2015 Author Report Posted May 23, 2015 I have no intention of lowering my standards, so I support the USA. Would maintaining these obvious high standards find you willingly taking part in, say, a USA death squad? Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted May 23, 2015 Report Posted May 23, 2015 Would maintaining these obvious high standards find you willingly taking part in, say, a USA death squad? Of course...just like the USA support for Canada's actions in Haiti ! Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Shady Posted May 23, 2015 Report Posted May 23, 2015 At the behest of the USA. Ain't that America, home of the war criminals. Why would China be able to support Pol Pot? And why would they do it at the behest of the United States? Quote
Je suis Omar Posted May 23, 2015 Author Report Posted May 23, 2015 Why would China be able to support Pol Pot? And why would they do it at the behest of the United States? Use your reading skills and read the article, Shady. Quote
Freddy Posted May 23, 2015 Report Posted May 23, 2015 (edited) Would maintaining these obvious high standards find you willingly taking part in, say, a USA death squad? Yes. Absolutely. Without hesitation. Edited May 23, 2015 by Freddy Quote
Shady Posted May 23, 2015 Report Posted May 23, 2015 Use your reading skills and read the article, Shady. I did but didn't see anything. What are the answers? Quote
poochy Posted May 23, 2015 Report Posted May 23, 2015 Another thread full of garbage, and that source...yea, also, all other countries are good, having never done anything like this. So sad to see this trash allowed. Quote
Freddy Posted May 23, 2015 Report Posted May 23, 2015 (edited) At the behest of the USA. Ain't that America, home of the war criminals. While you waste you're life whining and frustrated about things you have absolutely no control over.I'll enjoy this amazing life full of benefits, belonging to the worlds ruling tribe. Edited May 23, 2015 by Freddy Quote
Je suis Omar Posted May 23, 2015 Author Report Posted May 23, 2015 Another thread full of garbage, and that source...yea, also, all other countries are good, having never done anything like this. Which "source" are you referring to, Poochy? So sad to see this trash allowed. Do you mean this? ---------------- Je suis Omar, on 22 May 2015 - 9:10 PM, asked Freddy: Would maintaining these obvious high standards find you willingly taking part in, say, a USA death squad? Freddy: Yes. Absolutely. Without hesitation. Edited by Freddy, Today, 03:36 AM. Quote
Freddy Posted May 23, 2015 Report Posted May 23, 2015 Which "source" are you referring to, Poochy? Do you mean this? ---------------- Je suis Omar, on 22 May 2015 - 9:10 PM, asked Freddy: Would maintaining these obvious high standards find you willingly taking part in, say, a USA death squad? Freddy: Yes. Absolutely. Without hesitation. Edited by Freddy, Today, 03:36 AM. Let me help you since you don't seem to have a clue. He was referring to your constant whining over the United States. Quote
Je suis Omar Posted May 23, 2015 Author Report Posted May 23, 2015 (edited) Let me help you since you don't seem to have a clue. He was referring to your constant whining over the United States. Pointing out the myriad war crimes and terrorism of the USA isn't whining, Freddy. Breathlessly panting and drooling and expressing admiration for the USA's Nazi like behavior seems to have given you quite a following of admirers. Edited May 23, 2015 by Je suis Omar Quote
Shady Posted May 23, 2015 Report Posted May 23, 2015 I did but didn't see anything. What are the answers? Still waiting. Quote
drummindiver Posted May 23, 2015 Report Posted May 23, 2015 So, Time and the CBC are to be considered not worthy of citing as a source. Guerrilla blogs of a certain tilt are above reproach though. Seems legit. Quote
poochy Posted May 23, 2015 Report Posted May 23, 2015 O and hey, I also heard the panama canal thing wasn't entirely above board, f'in americans. Quote
Je suis Omar Posted May 23, 2015 Author Report Posted May 23, 2015 So, Time and the CBC are to be considered not worthy of citing as a source. it. They can be. Your terrible misreading and lack of understanding of the information found therein is the problem. Quote
Je suis Omar Posted May 23, 2015 Author Report Posted May 23, 2015 O and hey, I also heard the panama canal thing wasn't entirely above board, f'in americans. Congratulations, poochy, on being right. The "panama canal thing" is another excellent example of the USA stealing from its poor neighbors to help the greedy and rapacious USA. You should start a new thread on that. Quote
Je suis Omar Posted May 23, 2015 Author Report Posted May 23, 2015 I did but didn't see anything. What are the answers? You tell us that you used your reading skills but you somehow missed this: During his reign as National Security Adviser, Zbigniew Brzezinski played an important role in determining how the U.S. would support the Pol Pot guerrillas. Elizabeth Becker, an expert on Cambodia, recently wrote, "Brzezinski himself claims that he concocted the idea of persuading Thailand to cooperate fully with China in efforts to rebuild the Khmer Rouge.... Brzezinski said, " I encouraged the Chinese to support Pol Pot. I encouraged the Thai to help the DK [Democratic Kampuchea]. The question was how to help the Cambodian people. Pol Pot was an abomination. We could not support him but China could." Ibid Quote
poochy Posted May 23, 2015 Report Posted May 23, 2015 It's nice to see the mod squad is upholding the incredibly low standards of this forum. Quote
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